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Biden v Dump 1: If not now, when? If not us, who?

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I honestly think the Ks are the left’s most dangerous people. They just reek of Trumpism. Not his actual policies, just the way he and his movement go about things.
 
Glad to see the recent news showing the race is tightening, because I've never felt it will not be close. Don't want dems to stay home thinking it's in the bag. We need to feel the urgency.
 
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burd said:
Glad to see the recent news showing the race is tightening, because I've never felt it will not be close. Don't want dems to stay home thinking it's in the bag. We need to feel the urgency.
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Hopefully it helps, but isn’t that pretty concerning? I really don’t understand what possibly could have motivated people in the last month to switch from Biden to Trump. Maybe some people are falling for the riot BS.
 
Biden’s emphatic debunking message in his Pittsburgh speech about not banning fracking should be the template for debunking all of Trump’s lies about him.

"I am not for open borders. Let me say that again: I am not for open borders. No matter how many times Donald Trump lies about me."

Then substitute “confiscating guns,” “defunding the police,” “demolishing the suburbs,” etc. And Biden's campaign should Tweet one or more of these every day until the election.
 
Drew S. said:
Hopefully it helps, but isn’t that pretty concerning? I really don’t understand what possibly could have motivated people in the last month to switch from Biden to Trump. Maybe some people are falling for the riot BS.
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The bob has just returned to level. Sure, a few people have to turn away for a moment when the Nazis actually murder on live tv, but in a coupla weeks they forget and they are right back there with him.

That portion of the electorate is locked in and unsalvageable, and they will never admit they lost. They're gonna believe in The Cause until the day they die. Mix in the Jesus derp and their kids and grandkids will be brainwashed too. Add the guns and they will indiscriminately murder from time to time, if not hundreds at least dozens, and the only thing we can do is try to contain them so it is each other.
 
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The bob has just returned to level. Sure, a few people have to turn away for a moment when the Nazis actually murder on live tv, but in a coupla weeks they forget and they are right back there with him.

That portion of the electorate is locked in and unsalvageable, and they will never admit they lost. They're gonna believe in The Cause until the day they die. Mix in the Jesus derp and their kids and grandkids will be brainwashed too. Add the guns and they will indiscriminately murder from time to time, if not hundreds at least dozens, and the only thing we can do is try to contain them so it is each other.
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The rural brain drain is real. Kids that are smart enough will go to college and most likely never return. Fix that and the rural white America problem is taken care of.
 
538 is doing their part to scare people. Beyond their weak "Minnesota to Red" article referenced earlier today Nate is tweeting out how Biden's national lead might be the result of Bluer States going Bluer then posting the odds of a Biden victory with X% of a win in the popular vote. As far as I can tell he hasnt done the same analysis with the swing states or deep red states to offset the effect though I have to believe that is coming.

I get people need to be kept on alert but it seems the last few days outright pessimism is on the rise and now pundits are feeding into it. Biden is polling right about Obama levels (despite the RNC bump) and yet if you believe some of these people Biden might as well quit already.
 
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The rural brain drain is real. Kids that are smart enough will go to college and most likely never return. Fix that and the rural white America problem is taken care of.
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This has been true for literally 250 years. It is never going to change. Kids who are on the ball want to escape the idiocy of the countryside. They may come back someday to settle down as Jeffersonian Gentleman Slaveholders, er, Job Creators, but in their 20s they want to be with other people who can think and speak in complete sentences.

Jesus f-ck, I couldn't even stand to stay in the suburbs. What the smartest kid at a Kansas Central High School feels like I cannot fathom.
 
Conservative Twitter wants you all to know that if Joe Biden lose the Dems will riot, not accept the results, try to tear down the Electoral College and destroy America.
 
Handyman said:
Conservative Twitter wants you all to know that if Joe Biden lose the Dems will riot, not accept the results, try to tear down the Electoral College and destroy America.
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Well I have said this many times now, but if Biden loses, I doubt very much I will BELIEVE the results, although accepting them is not up to me. I also do want to tear down the electoral college and I already believe that if trump is president for 4 more years, America will be destroyed. I doubt I'll riot much though.
 
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Well I have said this many times now, but if Biden loses, I doubt very much I will BELIEVE the results, although accepting them is not up to me. I also do want to tear down the electoral college and I already believe that if trump is president for 4 more years, America will be destroyed. I doubt I'll riot much though.
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If Biden loses, the Democrats, as a national political party, need to fold up their tent and go home. You go 0-2 against Donald J. Trump, that's like losing a doubleheader to the Washington Generals.
 
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If Biden loses, the Democrats, as a national political party, need to fold up their tent and go home. You go 0-2 against Donald J. Trump, that's like losing a doubleheader to the Washington Generals.
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I don’t think the Generals had an ardent fan base that made up 40% of the crowd and would cheer them on no matter how many flagrant fouls they committed.

Nor did the Generals have others in the crowd who claimed not to support the Generals, but would support all the actions of the Generals for four years while vilifying everything the Globetrotters did. And then when the Globetrotters fans called out such “neutral” supporters, they were told they were simply wound too tight.
 
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If Biden loses, the Democrats, as a national political party, need to fold up their tent and go home. You go 0-2 against Donald J. Trump, that's like losing a doubleheader to the Washington Generals.
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A Biden loss would be a stain on America as a whole, because it would implicate the 40% of the country who ardently support Trump, the 5% who don't like him but go along with him for abortion/tax cuts/gun rights/whatever pet issue they have, every liberal third party voter who throws a hissy and doesn't vote to remove Trump, and the system as a whole given that Biden could win by 7 million votes and still lose the EC.

What it puts into stark relief is that the next time the Dems control both chambers of Congress and the Presidency, a bunch of things need to happen right away:
1) Kill the Senate fillibuster fully
2) Expand the house to at least 750 members, preferably 1000, to help offset the electoral college issues caused by the Senate representation (and provide better representation to boot)
3) Grant statehood to DC and Puerto Rico (and any other territories that want it - Guam, American Samoa, whoever).
4) Pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act
5) Depending on how far gone the Courts have gotten, expand the judiciary at all levels by adding new positions.

All of those can be done by simple legislation without requiring constitutional amendments.
 
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A Biden loss would be a stain on America as a whole, because it would implicate the 40% of the country who ardently support Trump, the 5% who don't like him but go along with him for abortion/tax cuts/gun rights/whatever pet issue they have, every liberal third party voter who throws a hissy and doesn't vote to remove Trump, and the system as a whole given that Biden could win by 7 million votes and still lose the EC.

What it puts into stark relief is that the next time the Dems control both chambers of Congress and the Presidency, a bunch of things need to happen right away:
1) Kill the Senate fillibuster fully
2) Expand the house to at least 750 members, preferably 1000, to help offset the electoral college issues caused by the Senate representation (and provide better representation to boot)
3) Grant statehood to DC and Puerto Rico (and any other territories that want it - Guam, American Samoa, whoever).
4) Pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act
5) Depending on how far gone the Courts have gotten, expand the judiciary at all levels by adding new positions.

All of those can be done by simple legislation without requiring constitutional amendments.
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I'd be surprised if #1 occurs, although of all of them that might be the most likely. I think there are still people in Congress that understand that when you change the rules to limit what the minority party can do, you had better be careful because there will likely come a day when you are back in the minority party.

I can't see them expanding the House, like you suggest. I don't think any of those people want to swap being 1 in 435 for 1 in 1000. Plus, just from a physical plant perspective, you have the House chamber, offices, caucus or hearing rooms and everything else to think of when you more than double the size of your group. Also, I don't think we've ever seen expansion like you're talking about. In the past, the numbers have gone up in very small increments. I could see them increasing it slightly if D.C. and P.R. are added as states, but I don't seem the just going from 435 to 1000.

I actually have no problem with #3 and 4, and I'd say that along with #1, these would have the best chance of your list to get approval.

I doubt they'd do #5 because I think most people, including members of Congress, would conclude that if you aren't changing the SCOTUS, you really aren't implementing any change by adding new positions, so why go through the expense.
 
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Conservative Twitter wants you all to know that if Joe Biden lose the Dems will riot, not accept the results, try to tear down the Electoral College and destroy America.
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Ask anyone making this argument if they still vote for Trump knowing this will happen, "Why do you hate America?".
 
Got a mailer from the Michigan GOP yesterday, hilariously trying to link Biden to Bernie and The Squad. "The RADICAL LEFT has taken over Joe Biden! Don't let them take over America!"
 
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