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Biden v Dump 1: If not now, when? If not us, who?

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I keep seeing that Trump will win in a landslide!!!!!! If that's the case, why wait???? ::insert eye roll emoji here::

We all knew this would happen. Didn't think it would be this early, though.
 
Who cares? As long as Nancy Pelosi and Democrats control the House, the election isn’t being moved. What’s more worrisome is if everyone is going to be able to vote amidst a pandemic. Lots of lawsuits winding their way through state court systems to flesh that out as we speak.

Not to mention, plenty of Democratic Secretaries of State, in tandem with their Democratic governors and legislatures, have already provided such an avenue for safe voting.
 
psych said:
Who cares?
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Because completely batsh-t crazy Nazism from the White House is no big deal as long as we control the House? There's nothing alarming at all about one of the guys in a missile silo going insane as long as you need two keys?

I'd like some of what you're taking. It seems... restful.
 
Trump starting a nuclear war was something that absolutely always worried me. I mean, hell, he still might. But Trump suggesting the election be moved? Again, who cares? He’s never had the power to do that, and he never will. I worry about the things he has actual control over. Assuming everyone who wants to vote his lame f-ck a-s out of office can, we won’t have to worry about him much longer. I’m not certain everyone who wants to vote will be able to, and THAT worries me.
 
psych said:
Who cares? As long as Nancy Pelosi and Democrats control the House, the election isn’t being moved. What’s more worrisome is if everyone is going to be able to vote amidst a pandemic. Lots of lawsuits winding their way through state court systems to flesh that out as we speak.

Not to mention, plenty of Democratic Secretaries of State, in tandem with their Democratic governors and legislatures, have already provided such an avenue for safe voting.
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Way wrong attitude dude. It doesnt matter whether it doesnt seem like it is possible we cannot let the sitting President start normalizing the idea of moving the election. If we have learned anything the last 3.5 years it is that he is able to move the needle way to easy and ignoring it or saying stuff like "he cant do it anyways" never stops him from trying and sometimes succeeding. He is going to have a good percentage of 60 million people backing him up and the Senate. This is not a "who cares" scenario.

If the pandemic is still out of control 2 months from now people are going to buy into this. If the Red States (the ones who dont support mail in voting that is) go along with it we have a serious fucking problem. This is not a little thing and it definitely isnt something to be lasseiz faire about.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
No.

He needs to be jailed. Period.
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My prosecution wish list starting day 1 (Don't care if it's state or federal):

1) Chump
2) Barr
3) Chump's idiot sons
​​​​​​4) Giuliani
5) DeVos

I'm sure there are many others but let's start with the people we already know are guilty!
 
SJHovey said:
I'm just hoping that once Trump is gone, the fever breaks.
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No we will still think the bullshit the GOP tries is Racist Sexist Crap. Dont like it...change them.

But hey...we are just clutching at pearls amirite? It isnt like he and his gang of cronies havent set us back on race relations 70 years. It isnt like people are dying every day because even though we had the luxury of lead time in a Pandemic we squandered it, ignored it and chose to worry more about dumbphucks being able to drink at bars than what actual scientists said. (unless they say what the GOP wants them to say, then they are right ESPECIALLY when they are wrong) It isnt like they are still trying to end ObamaCare as people are dying. It isnt like there is civil unrest all over the country. It isnt like the economy is tanking (again) and we just lost a third of our GDP. It isnt like Unemployment is at Depression Era levels...

The fever wont break, because too many people will still believe the GOP had zero to do with any of that. Until people start seeing these assholes for what they are the fever will never break. As long as GOP voters elect people who protect pedophiles and rapists (They have a nice long history of that) we will make sure to call them out for it. As long as their monetary policy is set to balloon the deficit while making sure rich people get everything they want, they will get ripped for it. As long as they support denial of all rights outside of 2A...we will call them out for it. Again, dont like it...change it.
 
French Rage said:
Hey everyone, look at my election post and ignore what the Business President did with the 2Q GDP!
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That was probably his plan...but there is going to be no escaping those numbers. If it is another bad day deathwise for COVID he will hit the trifecta.
 
SJHovey said:
I'm just hoping that once Trump is gone, the fever breaks.
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The GOP has been deeply sick for a long time. At least 1994 (25 years), more plausibly 1980 (40 years), arguably 1964 (55 years).

I think the only way the fever breaks is the big business guys who actually run the party determine the vein is played out and they can't deliver the heists using derp anymore. The GOP is a husk which they fill. If they lose TX they may wake up November 4 and decide to rebrand as the party of immigrants and minorities. It will be bumpy for a while, like it was when we shipped our racists to you in the 60s and 70s, but as long as we have a 2-party system neither of the biggies will be down for too long as long as they adapt.
 
We have had a handful of very consequential elections in this country during it's lifespan. The 2020 election is shaping up to be far and away the most consequential in the history of this republic. If trump steals this election, the country is over. If democrats win overwhelmingly (Biden, Ds take the senate, Ds make similar gains where they can like in 2018), what that buys us is time. Time to fix things once and for all. Times to put us on a path of more racial equality, more gender equality, more opportunity equality generally. If Biden wins and the Ds hold the house (cannot see anyway they don't with a Biden win) but few gains are made elsewhere, we've probably stopped the bleeding, but little else.

Oh and if someone tries to stop me from voting on November 3rd (or to count my ballots if I have voted earlier) they're not gonna like my response. You can mock me for the teams I roof for, you can call my mom nasty names, you can even steal my car or anything else I own and I'm probably not gonna do a damn thing about it. But if I choose to vote and you try to stop me, you will not like what happens to you. I may not like what happens to me as a result of that, but I guarantee you will not like what happens to you.
 
Handyman said:
Way wrong attitude dude. It doesnt matter whether it doesnt seem like it is possible we cannot let the sitting President start normalizing the idea of moving the election. If we have learned anything the last 3.5 years it is that he is able to move the needle way to easy and ignoring it or saying stuff like "he cant do it anyways" never stops him from trying and sometimes succeeding. He is going to have a good percentage of 60 million people backing him up and the Senate. This is not a "who cares" scenario.

If the pandemic is still out of control 2 months from now people are going to buy into this. If the Red States (the ones who dont support mail in voting that is) go along with it we have a serious ****ing problem. This is not a little thing and it definitely isnt something to be lasseiz faire about.
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What is something Trump has done in the past 3.5 years that is both completely illegal, and required the approval/complicity of Democrats? I admit I haven’t followed everything that’s happened since January 2017.

My attitude is fine, thank you. I worry much more about people having the ability to vote safely, or at all, on or before November 3. That’s a legitimate concern, and there are still swing states that haven’t followed through on providing for safe access to voting come November, because, you know, those a-sholes in power HAVE the ability to hamper voting access. Trump has 0 power over changing the election. 0. I’m more worried he’ll decide McConnell is a traitor, and subsequently nuke Kentucky off the map. No doubt quite a few of you would be happy with that; Scooby in particular.
 
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