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Bentley Falcons Official 2011-2012 Thread

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The OOC's right now are a no-lose for Bentley. Let's face it - you go to Michigan and play the Wolverines for two games.. you should get absolutely smashed if youre in the AHA. BUT if you go out there and play them hard and strong, since its the beginning of the year - you can build on that and get some SERIOUS momentum. It's going to be an awesome awesome awesome experience for the guys.

Also, the fact that you're doing it at the beginning of the year, if you lose the games well hey you're supposed to lose at Michigan if you're Bentley. So it's a no-lose, all-win for the team. That's a great opportunity.

Not to mention, if you guys sweep the Wolverines or get 3 points on them, given this is your first time, you get to join us in a quite small group of teams that have a winning record against big blue. Wouldn't mind seeing more teams in that category. ;)
 
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New scheduling announced via Army:

Bentley will play at Tate Rink on Nov 12 and will play home-and-home on 1/27 and 1/28 (with Friday at the JAR)
 
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Here's the latest list of recruits for next season, with a couple of early commits for 2012.

Matt Blomquist-LD 5/11/11 2012 Coulee Region (NAHL) 6'3 210

Mark Meads-C 4/14/11 2012 Tabor Academy 5'8 165 3-16-92


Alex Kubiak-RC 3/11/11 Green Bay (USHL) 6'2 180 6-5-91

Brett Switzer-LC 2/2/11 Spruce Grove (AJHL) 5'10 170 10-13-90

Alex Grieve-RW 1/16/11 Westside (BCHL) 6'1 195 5-18-90

Blake Dougherty-G 1/3/11 Bay State (EJHL) 6'2 180 7-29-90

Steve Weinstein-LD 12/15/10 Vernon (BCHL) 5'9 165 8-13-90

Matt Maher-RD 8/6/10 Westside (BCHL) 6'2 190 4-11-90
 
Re: Bentley Falcons Official 2011-2012 Thread

New scheduling announced via Army:

Bentley will play at Tate Rink on Nov 12 and will play home-and-home on 1/27 and 1/28 (with Friday at the JAR)

FladDude has the home and home reversed, but it is unclear which game is which in 17 June 2011 Army announcement.

http://www.atlantichockeyonline.com/news/2010-11_News/army061711

In any case, I still think that it is stupid to travel that far for a home and home from a carbon footprint stand point (i.e., whould make more sense for Army to visit Bentley on November 12th, and Bentley stay over at West Point on the 27-28 January). Andrew Ference would recommend that the two schools pay for a carbon offset.
 
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FladDude has the home and home reversed, but it is unclear which game is which in 17 June 2011 Army announcement.

http://www.atlantichockeyonline.com/news/2010-11_News/army061711

In any case, I still think that it is stupid to travel that far for a home and home from a carbon footprint stand point (i.e., whould make more sense for Army to visit Bentley on November 12th, and Bentley stay over at West Point on the 27-28 January). Andrew Ference would recommend that the two schools pay for a carbon offset.

The link that was referenced in the season schedules thread (post #194) is no longer active. :( That had the schedule as you see it.
 
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The link that was referenced in the season schedules thread (post #194) is no longer active. :( That had the schedule as you see it.

There was a link on someone's site to a google spreadsheet. I don't know if that was the link you had?

I think my brain is still fried though from too many hot dogs this weekend. Is it hockey season yet?
 
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There was a link on someone's site to a google spreadsheet. I don't know if that was the link you had?

I think my brain is still fried though from too many hot dogs this weekend. Is it hockey season yet?

It might have been an RIT fan (mar7967 or some number, I can't remember). He has also been doing schedules from a micro standpoint, focusing only on Atlantic Hockey.
 
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It might have been an RIT fan (mar7967 or some number, I can't remember). He has also been doing schedules from a micro standpoint, focusing only on Atlantic Hockey.

See post #2 in this thread; mar7967 posts a link to his AHA scheduling spreadsheet.
 
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So the creation of the western superconference might have an undesired effect on the east coast conferences.

I've heard rumblings that if Notre Dame goes to Hockey East, to keep it at an even-number of teams, it's possible HE would invite holy cross. That would give them a conference with the 4 major catholic universities (ND, HC, PC, and BC).

It's also possible that Air Force (even though they're extremely happy playing in AHA) might be a team that the WCHA or the combined W/CCHA would try to lure.

And, as always, there's a possibility that Navy could jump to D1 since the new conference could load up expansion into Division 1.

I just fear that expansion of Division 1 could undermine Bentley's ability to operate at this level, not without the inclusion of an on-campus rink and determination to bolster the team's reputation as a D1 program.
 
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So the creation of the western superconference might have an undesired effect on the east coast conferences.

I've heard rumblings that if Notre Dame goes to Hockey East, to keep it at an even-number of teams, it's possible HE would invite holy cross. That would give them a conference with the 4 major catholic universities (ND, HC, PC, and BC).

It's also possible that Air Force (even though they're extremely happy playing in AHA) might be a team that the WCHA or the combined W/CCHA would try to lure.

And, as always, there's a possibility that Navy could jump to D1 since the new conference could load up expansion into Division 1.

I just fear that expansion of Division 1 could undermine Bentley's ability to operate at this level, not without the inclusion of an on-campus rink and determination to bolster the team's reputation as a D1 program.

Hockey East was a nine-team conference for most of its existence, so I do not think that adding another team to maintain balance would be a major issue. But, check out the superconference going down the tubes thread; we probably do not need to worry about such a drastic reorg at this point.

I think that Bentley's future in Div 1 hockey will be more dependent on whether an on-campus rink gets built, especially as Sacred Heart and Canisius are playing some of their home games now in nicer venues than their regular home arenas.

But, most important, when will Bentley and a few other AHA teams get their 2011-2012 schedules finalized?
 
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Canisius's "home rink" They share Buffalo State's rink. They used to play at a two sheet rec place in Amherst, but they must have came up with a deal with Buff State as all games last year and this upcoming year are there!

schedules - AIC is usually early August. It does seem like everyone is early this year, which I have no complaints with!
 
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Canisius's "home rink" They share Buffalo State's rink. They used to play at a two sheet rec place in Amherst, but they must have came up with a deal with Buff State as all games last year and this upcoming year are there!

schedules - AIC is usually early August. It does seem like everyone is early this year, which I have no complaints with!

The early release of the schedules has allowed me ample time to convince my better half that New Year's in New Haven is a great idea.

....in other news, I don't think I'm making the trek haha.
 
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I'm a Bentley grad (1980) and I wonder how serious the school is about its hockey program and how serious it is about a possible new arena. And, I suppose, whether those two topics are mutually inclusive or exclusive. It would be nice if some 'Penn State-like' benefactor parachuted in with the dollars and land to build a reasonably-sized arena (I'm going on the assumption that there really isn't an on-campus spot to site one).It's bad enough that the rink they use now isn't even in Waltham.
 
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I'm a Bentley grad (1980) and I wonder how serious the school is about its hockey program and how serious it is about a possible new arena. And, I suppose, whether those two topics are mutually inclusive or exclusive. It would be nice if some 'Penn State-like' benefactor parachuted in with the dollars and land to build a reasonably-sized arena (I'm going on the assumption that there really isn't an on-campus spot to site one).It's bad enough that the rink they use now isn't even in Waltham.

In a purer, more perfect world, you guys would join HEA along with ND..
 
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In a purer, more perfect world, you guys would join HEA along with ND..

I don't think Hockey East would want anything to do with Bentley if there's no downstream plan for them to have a new, more welcoming home arena. It doesn't even have to be anything more ambitious than what Merrimack has, but it properly would need to be in Waltham (at least) or the Lower Bentley Campus (at best).

I would like to go on record to thank schools like Michigan, Northeastern, Clarkson, RPI and Maine (and others I've missed) for being gracious enough to host Bentley. I realize that these schools see Bentley as an easy 'W,' but these road trips are the steppingstones that the University will look back on in years to come.
 
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I don't think Hockey East would want anything to do with Bentley if there's no downstream plan for them to have a new, more welcoming home arena. It doesn't even have to be anything more ambitious than what Merrimack has, but it properly would need to be in Waltham (at least) or the Lower Bentley Campus (at best).

I would like to go on record to thank schools like Michigan, Northeastern, Clarkson, RPI and Maine (and others I've missed) for being gracious enough to host Bentley. I realize that these schools see Bentley as an easy 'W,' but these road trips are the steppingstones that the University will look back on in years to come.

Ironically, I heard that Hockey East was exploring the possibility of adding both Bentley and Holy Cross because of the Massachusetts connections and recent successes (Bentley's 19-win season from a couple of years ago makes it eminently more attractive than AIC, and the hot rumor is that Bentley's early season showings with wins in the past few years over marquee opponents from HEA made the conference take notice).

BUT, there are a few major blocks which ultimately make Hockey East laugh at the prospect of Bentley coming to the arena.

1) Bentley will NOT build an on-campus arena. From what I understand, it actually had nothing to do with funding for the arena itself. The college was, a couple of years ago, willing to turn some of the swamp land into a small, 3,000 seat arena on campus for students to go to. However, the issue becomes upkeep and leasing it to local areas. Following the Robert Morris business model, Bentley would need to keep the rink going outside of the college hockey season and lease the rink to local area schools, showcases, leagues, and events. Otherwise, it becomes a massive drain on the campus to upkeep and run the rink from October to March/April without a stream of revenue (don't expect them to sell tickets to students.. that's just a wrong principle that the school will never undertake). You're now hoping you can entice Waltham High, Watertown High, Newton South (Watertown and NS both play at the JAR), along with a couple of other local area Catholic schools to schedule their home games at your new rink.

Additionally, you're banking on drawing either a junior hockey league or a youth league like the Valley League to your area, which is tough to do with several cheaper alternatives in the area. The issue wasn't funding to build it, it was the ability to upkeep it in the style of a modern rink, furnishing it with decent facilities, and, in essence, running the rink the way that rinks are supposed to be run through that time of year.

2) A move to HEA requires a team to offer the monetary equivalent of 18 full athletic scholarships. That's a major hurdle within AHA right now, whre the Western Teams, especially a school like Air Force, is willing to offer the max-18 covered by the bigger, more prolific leagues. The eastern schools, which already suffer funding issues, are not willing to offer the extra six. Estimating tuition at 50-55K a year, you now have to pony up an addition 300-330K per year in scholarship money. That's a lot of money to ask of the university in this economic climate.

3) Attendance. If the team was successful and drew well regardless, there wouldn't be a need to worry about the arena. At the heart of everything is that the team isn't good enough right now to draw well, regardless of every other factor. There's no guarantee moving on campus would fix attendance woes; Bentley drew one of the nation's worst home attendance numbers by averaging under 500 per game. And, honestly, that number's generous and can't be taken seriously if you were at the games (I remember a game where the broadcaster echoed through the JAR because there were literally 20 people there).

4) If you're Hockey East, I think you give serious credence to Holy Cross because of the Catholic school connections with BC and PC, especially the HC-BC rivalry, which is completely out of control in terms of intense hatred (every single HOly Cross person I've ever met has utterly hated Boston College with every fiber of their being, so much that it makes BU look like a puppy licking an Eagle Superfan's face). After that, there's so many other better options. And Hockey East already has two schools that are not D1 schools (Merrimack and UMass-Lowell) for every other sport. The cross-sport branding potential doesn't exist with Bentley, as it would with, say Quinnipiac, UConn, or even Canisius. In short, even if Boston College let Bentley share their rink because its only a couple of miles up the road from the JAR (really..it's like 7 minutes driving from the Bentley campus or so), it just doesn't make sense.

And besides, if you're Bentley, who was a 10th place team in AHA, why would you ever want to make a jump to a conference that already has 10 teams so much better than you overall?

As a last point, I feel like the arena argument at this point is beating a dead horse. Unless someone can pony up the money to let the school upkeep it, then essentially the situation is never going to change. That worries me, because if D1 hockey is going to expand as it is (Minnesota State-Moorhead is rumored to be trying to jump to D1), other schools are going to jump into the fray. It's only a matter of time before you see schools like a Syracuse (which has women's), or like an Indiana/Illinois come up with hockey. And when that happens, hockey is going to become much higher priced. And that worries me because if the asking price gets too high, Bentley is at risk of either becoming a school that a) will never compete or b) drops hockey altogether (see also: Fairfield, Wayne State) due to economic reasons.
 
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Of course, all of this could be solved with one AHA championship, which I honestly believe the team is ready to make a run at again.
 
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I'm also hearing that UConn and Holy Cross are being explored by HEA. UConn women already play in the conference, and Holy Cross fits with the BC rivalry and Catholic school brigade already in the conference. It's also possible the CCHA decides to pilfer Niagara, Mercyhurst, and Canisius.
 
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2) A move to HEA requires a team to offer the monetary equivalent of 18 full athletic scholarships. That's a major hurdle within AHA right now, whre the Western Teams, especially a school like Air Force, is willing to offer the max-18 covered by the bigger, more prolific leagues. The eastern schools, which already suffer funding issues, are not willing to offer the extra six.

Air Force doesn't give any scholarships because the Academy is free for their students I thought.
 
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