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Who cares? The best reaction would be none at all.
MadTownSioux
Fighting Sioux Hockey Fan
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ESPN is going all out - seems like 1/2 of each hour show is about this.
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Is there anything ESPN covers that they don't go all out on? I guess with 24/7 to fill they have to do like a lot of media and kick up dust about all sorts of stuff.
MavHockey14
New member
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ESPN is pretty brutal with things like this. This is very important news, yes. Shouldn't people highly in support of gay athletes being who they are, etc. want this to be small news or none at all? That's being treated like everyone else, is it not?
I understand this is the start of moving towards that attitude, but ESPN, just like everything else, is trying to find every little thing to talk about with a story.
ESPN is pretty brutal with things like this. This is very important news, yes. Shouldn't people highly in support of gay athletes being who they are, etc. want this to be small news or none at all? That's being treated like everyone else, is it not?
I understand this is the start of moving towards that attitude, but ESPN, just like everything else, is trying to find every little thing to talk about with a story.
bronconick
Yep, still here
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That's ESPN. Nothing else to talk about, aside from the (NBC) Olympics.
That's ESPN. Nothing else to talk about, aside from the (NBC) Olympics.
French Rage
NICKERSON HAS [CENSORED]
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So basically that OSU guy picked the perfect time to go into the stands.
So basically that OSU guy picked the perfect time to go into the stands.
Twitch Boy
Defacing this tagline is a MAX foul
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I'm honestly worried the media circus will burn people out on him and hurt him more than it will help him. Last thing you want is to get the derp squad yapping "ENOUGH ALREADY!" Once they start, they don't stop.
Chris Warcraft has discussed this a few times. He thinks the biggest issue with gay players will be the front offices for this reason. Though there are plenty of gay-friendly executives out there, the second a player comes out the media circus fires up and he risks becoming a Tebow-esque distraction. Supposedly there are already several gay players who have gotten together and discussed coming out, but are waiting for the right timing and climate.
Suppose someone had to go first though, so it's not a big deal later on.
I'm honestly worried the media circus will burn people out on him and hurt him more than it will help him. Last thing you want is to get the derp squad yapping "ENOUGH ALREADY!" Once they start, they don't stop.
Chris Warcraft has discussed this a few times. He thinks the biggest issue with gay players will be the front offices for this reason. Though there are plenty of gay-friendly executives out there, the second a player comes out the media circus fires up and he risks becoming a Tebow-esque distraction. Supposedly there are already several gay players who have gotten together and discussed coming out, but are waiting for the right timing and climate.
Suppose someone had to go first though, so it's not a big deal later on.
bigblue_dl
Armed
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And I have no problem with this line of thinking by GM's. The media circus could be a serious distraction, and even if they have no issues with having a gay player, they most likely will have a problem with a player that brings the circus to town, for whatever reason. With that said, the kid is going to get drafted, so it is going to happen. Hopefully this is the big hurdle, and from here on we only get better about it.
And I have no problem with this line of thinking by GM's. The media circus could be a serious distraction, and even if they have no issues with having a gay player, they most likely will have a problem with a player that brings the circus to town, for whatever reason. With that said, the kid is going to get drafted, so it is going to happen. Hopefully this is the big hurdle, and from here on we only get better about it.
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Pretty devastating story in the New York Times about the rape investigation involving Jameis Winston at Florida State, or more like the lack of investigation. Heads should roll.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/16/sports/errors-in-inquiry-on-rape-allegations-against-fsu-jamies-winston.html?hp&_r=1
Pretty devastating story in the New York Times about the rape investigation involving Jameis Winston at Florida State, or more like the lack of investigation. Heads should roll.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/16/sports/errors-in-inquiry-on-rape-allegations-against-fsu-jamies-winston.html?hp&_r=1
bronconick
Yep, still here
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Meh. Meggs (Tallahassee DA) has been ripping the investigation from day 1. Doesn't mention Travis Johnson or Greg Dent. Expected more from a Pulitzer winner. (Yes, I spent way too much time on this case.)
Meh. Meggs (Tallahassee DA) has been ripping the investigation from day 1. Doesn't mention Travis Johnson or Greg Dent. Expected more from a Pulitzer winner. (Yes, I spent way too much time on this case.)
MavHockey14
New member
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So here is the Big Ten primetime schedule...
Here's the breakdown of Big Ten prime-time games by team:
Aug. 28
Eastern Illinois at Minnesota*
Aug. 29
Jacksonville State at Michigan State*
Sept. 6
Virginia Tech at Ohio State, 8 p.m. ET, ESPN
Sept. 13
Penn State at Rutgers, 8 p.m. ET
Sept. 20
Miami at Nebraska, 8 p.m. ET, ABC or ESPN or ESPN2
Sept. 27
Cincinnati at Ohio State, 6 p.m. ET
Illinois at Nebraska, 9 p.m. ET
Oct. 4
Nebraska at Michigan State, 8 p.m. ET, ABC or ESPN or ESPN2
Michigan at Rutgers, 7 p.m. ET
Oct. 11
Penn State at Michigan, 7 p.m. ET, ESPN or ESPN2
Oct. 18
Nebraska at Northwestern, 7:30 p.m. ET
Oct. 25
Ohio State at Penn State, 8 p.m. ET, ABC or ESPN or ESPN2
Nov. 1
Illinois at Ohio State, 8 p.m. ET, ABC or ESPN or ESPN2
Nov. 15
Michigan State at Maryland, 7 p.m. ET
Ohio State: 4 (three home, one road)
Nebraska: 4 (two home, two road)
Michigan State: 3 (two home, one road)
Penn State: 1 (two road, one home)
Rutgers: 2 (two home)
Michigan: 2 (one home, one road)
Illinois: 2 (two road)
Minnesota: 1 (home)
Northwestern: 1 (home)
Maryland: 1 (home)
*Kickoff time TBD
So here is the Big Ten primetime schedule...
Here's the breakdown of Big Ten prime-time games by team:
Aug. 28
Eastern Illinois at Minnesota*
Aug. 29
Jacksonville State at Michigan State*
Sept. 6
Virginia Tech at Ohio State, 8 p.m. ET, ESPN
Sept. 13
Penn State at Rutgers, 8 p.m. ET
Sept. 20
Miami at Nebraska, 8 p.m. ET, ABC or ESPN or ESPN2
Sept. 27
Cincinnati at Ohio State, 6 p.m. ET
Illinois at Nebraska, 9 p.m. ET
Oct. 4
Nebraska at Michigan State, 8 p.m. ET, ABC or ESPN or ESPN2
Michigan at Rutgers, 7 p.m. ET
Oct. 11
Penn State at Michigan, 7 p.m. ET, ESPN or ESPN2
Oct. 18
Nebraska at Northwestern, 7:30 p.m. ET
Oct. 25
Ohio State at Penn State, 8 p.m. ET, ABC or ESPN or ESPN2
Nov. 1
Illinois at Ohio State, 8 p.m. ET, ABC or ESPN or ESPN2
Nov. 15
Michigan State at Maryland, 7 p.m. ET
Ohio State: 4 (three home, one road)
Nebraska: 4 (two home, two road)
Michigan State: 3 (two home, one road)
Penn State: 1 (two road, one home)
Rutgers: 2 (two home)
Michigan: 2 (one home, one road)
Illinois: 2 (two road)
Minnesota: 1 (home)
Northwestern: 1 (home)
Maryland: 1 (home)
*Kickoff time TBD
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MavHockey14
New member
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Good to see the B1G moving forward with night games in November.
Crazy to think that the arguable favorites in the West, Wisconsin and Iowa, have zero primetime games currently. (Nebraska is right in that mix as well, though.)
I guess it frustrates me as I love day long tailgates, but I also somewhat understand the scheduling against the SEC. Emphasizing Michigan, Ohio, and the NE is fairly key moving forward with recruiting in the B1G.
Good to see the B1G moving forward with night games in November.
Crazy to think that the arguable favorites in the West, Wisconsin and Iowa, have zero primetime games currently. (Nebraska is right in that mix as well, though.)
I guess it frustrates me as I love day long tailgates, but I also somewhat understand the scheduling against the SEC. Emphasizing Michigan, Ohio, and the NE is fairly key moving forward with recruiting in the B1G.
bigblue_dl
Armed
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You have no game @Minnesota listed, but in your summary at the bottom you say that Minnesota has one game, at home.
You have no game @Minnesota listed, but in your summary at the bottom you say that Minnesota has one game, at home.
MavHockey14
New member
MavHockey14
New member
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With the B1G's primetime schedule set, I decided to dive in and take a deeper look at how the TV contracts and companies may be thinking of the schedule moving forward. I did my best to take into account of other games going on, as well as the trend of ESPN networks taking two games, generally one at 11 am and one at 2:30 pm through October, and adding a third to that slate in November.
August 30
7:30 am
Penn State vs. Central Florida ESPN 2
11:00 am
Indiana State at Indiana BTN
Youngstown State at Illinois BTN
Western Michigan at Purdue BTN
Appalachian State at Michigan ESPN
California at Northwestern ESPN U
2:30 pm
Northern Iowa at Iowa BTN
Florida Atlantic at Nebraska BTN
Ohio State at Navy ESPN 2
8:00 pm
LSU vs Wisconsin ESPN
September 6
11:00 am
Ball State at Iowa BTN
Western Kentucky at Illinois BTN
Central Michigan at Purdue BTN
McNeese State at Nebraska BTN
2:30 pm
Michigan State at Oregon ABC
Akron at Penn State BTN
Middle Tennessee at Minnesota BTN
6:30 pm
Michigan at Notre Dame NBC
7:00
Virginia Tech at Ohio State ABC
September 13
11:00 am
Kent State at Ohio State ESPN 2
Miami (OH) at Michigan BTN
Indiana at Bowling Green BTN
2:30 pm
Iowa State at Iowa BTN
Illinois at Washington Pac 12/ESPN 2
Minnesota at TCU FS1/ESPN 2
6:30 pm
Purdue at Notre Dame NBC
7:00 pm
Penn State at Rutgers BTN
9:30 pm
Nebraska at Fresno State ESPN 2
September 20
11:00 am
Iowa at Pittsburgh ESPN 2
Eastern Michigan at Michigan State BTN
Western Illinois at Northwestern BTN
San Jose State at Minnesota BTN
Massachusetts at Penn State BTN
Texas State at Illinois BTN
2:30 pm
Utah at Michigan ESPN 2
Bowling Green at Wisconsin BTN
Indiana at Missouri SEC/BTN
7:00 pm
Clemson at Florida State ABC
Miami (FL) at Nebraska ESPN
Mississippi State at LSU ESPN 2..if CBS chooses to do this game over SC at Vandy, Iowa at Pittsburgh ESPN 2
September 27
11:00 am
Iowa at Purdue BTN
Northwestern at Penn State ESPN
South Florida at Wisconsin BTN
Maryland at Indiana BTN
2:30 pm
Minnesota at Michigan ESPN 2
Wyoming at Michigan State BTN
5:00 pm
Cincinnati at Ohio State BTN
8:00 pm
Illinois at Nebraska BTN
October 4
11:00 am
Wisconsin at Northwestern ESPN 2
North Texas at Indiana BTN
2:30 pm
Ohio State at Maryland ESPN 2
Purdue at Illinois BTN
6:00 pm
Michigan at Rutgers BTN
7:00 pm
Nebraska at Michigan State ESPN (Assuming ABC is LSU at Auburn. If that is 2:30 on CBS, then this moves to ABC.)
October 11
11:00 am
Indiana at Iowa (HC) ESPN 2 (if Iowa is undefeated, otherwise likely BTN)
Illinois at Wisconsin BTN (or ESPN 2 if Iowa has a loss)
Michigan State at Purdue BTN
2:30 pm
Northwestern at Minnesota BTN
6:00 pm
Penn State at Michigan ESPN (I anticipate Oregon at UCLA on ABC)
October 18
11:00 am
Michigan State at Indiana ESPN 2
Purdue at Minnesota BTN
2:30 pm
Iowa at Maryland BTN (if Iowa is unbeaten, they're probably playing at 11 on one of the ESPN networks.)
Ohio State at Rutgers ESPN 2
6:30 pm
Nebraska at Northwestern BTN
October 25
11:00 am
Rutgers at Nebraska ESPN 2
Maryland at Wisconsin BTN ***Whoever has better record between WI or NE will play on ESPN networks
Minnesota at Illinois BTN
2:30 pm
Michigan at Michigan State ABC
7:00 pm
Ohio State at Penn State ESPN (Notre Dame at Florida State on ABC)
November 1
11:00 am
Indiana at Michigan ESPN
Purdue at Nebraska ESPN 2
Maryland at Penn State BTN
2:30 pm
Northwestern at Iowa ESPN 2
Wisconsin at Rutgers BTN ***may flip if Iowa has a couple losses
7:00 pm
Illinois at Ohio State ESPN 2
November 8
ABC is added to the 11 am schedule in November. They'll probably pick up Baylor/Oklahoma and Texas AM/Auburn. (LSU/Bama will be on CBS.) One will play at 11 and one at 2:30, maybe they both play at 11, which would move Iowa to 2:30. Not sure if FS1 automatically gets Baylor/Oklahoma or not. If they do, Hawks move to 2:30, as Minnesota lobbies hard for them. Notre Dame/ASU and UCLA/Washington are also on this Saturday. One of these four needs the ABC slot at 7pm. So three games to fill 2 11 am slots and one 2:30; could do a 6:30 on ESPN 2 as well. This week is a tough one.
11:00 am
Iowa at Minnesota ESPN (I could see BTN lobbying to move this to a 5pm kick on BTN if they want another primetime)
Michigan at Northwestern ESPN 2
Penn State at Indiana BTN
Wisconsin at Purdue BTN
2:30 pm
Ohio State at Michigan State ABC
November 15
11:00 am
Iowa at Illinois ESPN 2
Ohio State at Minnesota ESPN
Indiana at Rutgers BTN
2:30 pm
Nebraska at Wisconsin ABC
Northwestern at Notre Dame NBC
Temple at Penn State BTN
7:00 pm
Michigan State at Maryland BTN
November 22
11:00 am
Indiana at Ohio State ESPN
Minnesota at Nebraska ESPN 2
Rutgers at Michigan State BTN
Northwestern at Purdue BTN
2:30 pm
Wisconsin at Iowa ABC
Maryland at Michigan BTN
Penn State at Illinois BTN
November 28
11:00 am
Nebraska at Iowa ABC
November 29
11:00 am
Michigan at Ohio State ABC
Minnesota at Wisconsin ESPN 2
Purdue at Indiana BTN
Northwestern at Illinois BTN
2:30 pm
Michigan State at Penn State ESPN 2
What do y'all think?
With the B1G's primetime schedule set, I decided to dive in and take a deeper look at how the TV contracts and companies may be thinking of the schedule moving forward. I did my best to take into account of other games going on, as well as the trend of ESPN networks taking two games, generally one at 11 am and one at 2:30 pm through October, and adding a third to that slate in November.
August 30
7:30 am
Penn State vs. Central Florida ESPN 2
11:00 am
Indiana State at Indiana BTN
Youngstown State at Illinois BTN
Western Michigan at Purdue BTN
Appalachian State at Michigan ESPN
California at Northwestern ESPN U
2:30 pm
Northern Iowa at Iowa BTN
Florida Atlantic at Nebraska BTN
Ohio State at Navy ESPN 2
8:00 pm
LSU vs Wisconsin ESPN
September 6
11:00 am
Ball State at Iowa BTN
Western Kentucky at Illinois BTN
Central Michigan at Purdue BTN
McNeese State at Nebraska BTN
2:30 pm
Michigan State at Oregon ABC
Akron at Penn State BTN
Middle Tennessee at Minnesota BTN
6:30 pm
Michigan at Notre Dame NBC
7:00
Virginia Tech at Ohio State ABC
September 13
11:00 am
Kent State at Ohio State ESPN 2
Miami (OH) at Michigan BTN
Indiana at Bowling Green BTN
2:30 pm
Iowa State at Iowa BTN
Illinois at Washington Pac 12/ESPN 2
Minnesota at TCU FS1/ESPN 2
6:30 pm
Purdue at Notre Dame NBC
7:00 pm
Penn State at Rutgers BTN
9:30 pm
Nebraska at Fresno State ESPN 2
September 20
11:00 am
Iowa at Pittsburgh ESPN 2
Eastern Michigan at Michigan State BTN
Western Illinois at Northwestern BTN
San Jose State at Minnesota BTN
Massachusetts at Penn State BTN
Texas State at Illinois BTN
2:30 pm
Utah at Michigan ESPN 2
Bowling Green at Wisconsin BTN
Indiana at Missouri SEC/BTN
7:00 pm
Clemson at Florida State ABC
Miami (FL) at Nebraska ESPN
Mississippi State at LSU ESPN 2..if CBS chooses to do this game over SC at Vandy, Iowa at Pittsburgh ESPN 2
September 27
11:00 am
Iowa at Purdue BTN
Northwestern at Penn State ESPN
South Florida at Wisconsin BTN
Maryland at Indiana BTN
2:30 pm
Minnesota at Michigan ESPN 2
Wyoming at Michigan State BTN
5:00 pm
Cincinnati at Ohio State BTN
8:00 pm
Illinois at Nebraska BTN
October 4
11:00 am
Wisconsin at Northwestern ESPN 2
North Texas at Indiana BTN
2:30 pm
Ohio State at Maryland ESPN 2
Purdue at Illinois BTN
6:00 pm
Michigan at Rutgers BTN
7:00 pm
Nebraska at Michigan State ESPN (Assuming ABC is LSU at Auburn. If that is 2:30 on CBS, then this moves to ABC.)
October 11
11:00 am
Indiana at Iowa (HC) ESPN 2 (if Iowa is undefeated, otherwise likely BTN)
Illinois at Wisconsin BTN (or ESPN 2 if Iowa has a loss)
Michigan State at Purdue BTN
2:30 pm
Northwestern at Minnesota BTN
6:00 pm
Penn State at Michigan ESPN (I anticipate Oregon at UCLA on ABC)
October 18
11:00 am
Michigan State at Indiana ESPN 2
Purdue at Minnesota BTN
2:30 pm
Iowa at Maryland BTN (if Iowa is unbeaten, they're probably playing at 11 on one of the ESPN networks.)
Ohio State at Rutgers ESPN 2
6:30 pm
Nebraska at Northwestern BTN
October 25
11:00 am
Rutgers at Nebraska ESPN 2
Maryland at Wisconsin BTN ***Whoever has better record between WI or NE will play on ESPN networks
Minnesota at Illinois BTN
2:30 pm
Michigan at Michigan State ABC
7:00 pm
Ohio State at Penn State ESPN (Notre Dame at Florida State on ABC)
November 1
11:00 am
Indiana at Michigan ESPN
Purdue at Nebraska ESPN 2
Maryland at Penn State BTN
2:30 pm
Northwestern at Iowa ESPN 2
Wisconsin at Rutgers BTN ***may flip if Iowa has a couple losses
7:00 pm
Illinois at Ohio State ESPN 2
November 8
ABC is added to the 11 am schedule in November. They'll probably pick up Baylor/Oklahoma and Texas AM/Auburn. (LSU/Bama will be on CBS.) One will play at 11 and one at 2:30, maybe they both play at 11, which would move Iowa to 2:30. Not sure if FS1 automatically gets Baylor/Oklahoma or not. If they do, Hawks move to 2:30, as Minnesota lobbies hard for them. Notre Dame/ASU and UCLA/Washington are also on this Saturday. One of these four needs the ABC slot at 7pm. So three games to fill 2 11 am slots and one 2:30; could do a 6:30 on ESPN 2 as well. This week is a tough one.
11:00 am
Iowa at Minnesota ESPN (I could see BTN lobbying to move this to a 5pm kick on BTN if they want another primetime)
Michigan at Northwestern ESPN 2
Penn State at Indiana BTN
Wisconsin at Purdue BTN
2:30 pm
Ohio State at Michigan State ABC
November 15
11:00 am
Iowa at Illinois ESPN 2
Ohio State at Minnesota ESPN
Indiana at Rutgers BTN
2:30 pm
Nebraska at Wisconsin ABC
Northwestern at Notre Dame NBC
Temple at Penn State BTN
7:00 pm
Michigan State at Maryland BTN
November 22
11:00 am
Indiana at Ohio State ESPN
Minnesota at Nebraska ESPN 2
Rutgers at Michigan State BTN
Northwestern at Purdue BTN
2:30 pm
Wisconsin at Iowa ABC
Maryland at Michigan BTN
Penn State at Illinois BTN
November 28
11:00 am
Nebraska at Iowa ABC
November 29
11:00 am
Michigan at Ohio State ABC
Minnesota at Wisconsin ESPN 2
Purdue at Indiana BTN
Northwestern at Illinois BTN
2:30 pm
Michigan State at Penn State ESPN 2
What do y'all think?
bigblue_dl
Armed
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Penn State is playing at 7:30AM? Its a bold strategy, lets see how it works out.
MavHockey14
New member
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
bigblue_dl
Armed
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I understand the reasoning behind Notre Dame playing there, but what kind of draw is Penn State going to be? Is it some sick brotherly connection between the Catholic Church and Penn State as being institutions of child molestation?
This....100x this?
I understand the reasoning behind Notre Dame playing there, but what kind of draw is Penn State going to be? Is it some sick brotherly connection between the Catholic Church and Penn State as being institutions of child molestation?