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Badger Hockey Showdown 2010

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badgerhawk said:
Yes, in 2007 Colgate beat UW in a shootout.
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Not just any shootout! I think that one went into eight or nine rounds because no one could score.:rolleyes:

The ice was so bad the players were taking shots from the top of the circles instead of trying to handle the puck down low.

I enjoy shootouts ONLY in meaningless tournaments (not in league play EVER) because it still counts as a tie and brings a little excitement. Unfortunately, that was probably the worst shootout I have ever seen.
 
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WisconsinWildcard said:
Not just any shootout! I think that one went into eight or nine rounds because no one could score.:rolleyes:

The ice was so bad the players were taking shots from the top of the circles instead of trying to handle the puck down low.

I enjoy shootouts ONLY in meaningless tournaments (not in league play EVER) because it still counts as a tie and brings a little excitement. Unfortunately, that was probably the worst shootout I have ever seen.
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Wasn't there also confusion on what players could be used in the second round? UW used new guys, but Colgate used the same guys that shot in the first round?
 
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WisconsinWildcard said:
Not just any shootout! I think that one went into eight or nine rounds because no one could score.:rolleyes:

The ice was so bad the players were taking shots from the top of the circles instead of trying to handle the puck down low.

I enjoy shootouts ONLY in meaningless tournaments (not in league play EVER) because it still counts as a tie and brings a little excitement. Unfortunately, that was probably the worst shootout I have ever seen.
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Ferris State went into an 11 round shootout @ Miami this year on Saturday, November 14th. The 'Dawgs took it after 22 players went. The longest in CCHA history, and I'm guessing college hockey history then since no one else does it (Unless it is a tournament like said above).
 
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What do you guys think of the NHL scoring system where you get a point for an overtime loss? Do you think they should do that in NCAA hockey?
 
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VarsityWisconsin said:
What do you guys think of the NHL scoring system where you get a point for an overtime loss? Do you think they should do that in NCAA hockey?
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This is my post when this is brought up last year.

"I am perfectly fine with the way the WCHA is now. To me, we get a little of everything in a season (at least for the badgers). We get short overtimes throughout the season, shootouts in the holiday tournament, and play until you score in the NCAA.

I am fine with the shootout in the holiday tournaments because it is for a trophy, not points (they are still counted as ties in the PWR). NCAA games have the already increased intensity which is amplified even further when a game goes into a sudden death, unlimited 20 minute overtimes. The most memorable game I have been to was the triple overtime game of Wisconsin vs. Cornell.

I do also agree that it is a distinct possiblity for it to happen anyways to appease the casual fans but I think anyone who simply enjoys the game of hockey should be pleased with the current format in the WCHA."


Sorry for the repetition but I have a big neurobiology test tomorrow that I should be studying for but I do feel strongly about this.

Leave it the way it is...no shootout in League or NCAA tournament play!
 
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VarsityWisconsin said:
What do you guys think of the NHL scoring system where you get a point for an overtime loss? Do you think they should do that in NCAA hockey?
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No. Never. The NHL system is absolutely retarded.

I'd leave at that, but just to punish you for asking that ****ing question, I'm going to type more:

It only exists because the NHL is banking on it to bring in the kind of short attention span idiots that will probably stop watching hockey the second they see something else they find interesting, like MMA or a shiny object.

Shootouts are stupid. If two teams play 65 minutes (or 70 or 80 or whatever) and they're still tied, why does one of them have to be chosen as a "winner"?

And then there's the fact that the points are unbalanced, which is just moronic. At least with other unbalanced points systems (like 3 points for a win, one for a tie in soccer), you're actually encouraged to try winning a game instead of waiting around for a mercy point and hoping you'll win what's essentially a coin flip for the magical third point.

I know the CCHA has a slightly different, marginally more logical system, but that's a joke as well. Let tie games be ties.
 
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I am not a supporter of the Shootout, but HATE a Tie between two teams. As a fan, we come to watch a good game of hockey, and want to see our team win. If I pay $50 to bring my family to come to a game, I don't want to come out with a tie. I want to see a winner no matter if our team wins or not.

I guess I'm a fan of 20 minute consecutive overtimes.
 
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FerrisStateHockeyFan said:
I am not a supporter of the Shootout, but HATE a Tie between two teams. As a fan, we come to watch a good game of hockey, and want to see our team win. If I pay $50 to bring my family to come to a game, I don't want to come out with a tie. I want to see a winner no matter if our team wins or not.

I guess I'm a fan of 20 minute consecutive overtimes.
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I agree with 20 minute consecutive overtimes...BUT only in NCAA tournament play. Shootouts seem silly to me. As a team, you play the whole game but when a shootout happens, a couple players decide who wins or loses. Hockey, for me, has always been a whole team sport and I feel that a shootout undermines that exact aspect.

The problem I see with 20 minute overtimes is that they greatly enhance the risk for injury. I love the idea of play until you die sudden death but there is a time and a place for that (NCAAs). League play, for the most part, pits two teams against each other on consecutive nights. If a 100 minute game occurred on the Friday game, I would not want to be at that Saturday game since it would most likely be sluggish and sloppy. I would rather see two hard fought ties in a weekend then see on incredibly long game with progressively deteriorating play followed by an egg of a game since both teams are exhausted.

I forget the teams :rolleyes: but does anyone remember/was at the game in the high school state tournament a few years back? It went into something like 5 or 6 overtimes. By the third overtime, it was like watching two bantam C teams and near the end, I swear I was watching PeeWees.

WCHA...please do not give into silly fads! Keep it the way it is!
 
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FerrisStateHockeyFan said:
I am not a supporter of the Shootout, but HATE a Tie between two teams. As a fan, we come to watch a good game of hockey, and want to see our team win. If I pay $50 to bring my family to come to a game, I don't want to come out with a tie. I want to see a winner no matter if our team wins or not.

I guess I'm a fan of 20 minute consecutive overtimes.
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I don't get the obsession with winning and losing. If two teams play 65 minutes of competitive hockey and at the end of it they are tied then I think the standings should reflect how evenly matched they are.

Ferris and Miami played to ties on two consecutive nights, that's 130 minutes of even hockey. But, FSU scored in the 20th round of the shootout and Miami didn't so we get more points. Don't get me wrong, I'll take the points, but it doesn't strike me as the most accurate measure of how competitive the teams are.
 
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FerrisStateHockeyFan said:
I am not a supporter of the Shootout, but HATE a Tie between two teams. As a fan, we come to watch a good game of hockey, and want to see our team win. If I pay $50 to bring my family to come to a game, I don't want to come out with a tie.
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You also don't want to see your team come out with a loss. Should we outlaw that too?

FerrisStateHockeyFan said:
I want to see a winner no matter if our team wins or not.
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What if there is no winner? If two teams play 65 minutes (or 70 or 80 or...) of hockey and that does not determine a winner why is it so important to arbitrarily decide on one? Does that change the fact that you just saw two teams battle each other and not gain any ground?
 
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My modest proposal: Get rid of points for ties.

If you tie, neither team gets a point. That will push them to not sit back and play for OT or the tie just to not risk losing a point!
 
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Almington said:
My modest proposal: Get rid of points for ties.

If you tie, neither team gets a point. That will push them to not sit back and play for OT or the tie just to not risk losing a point!
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That is harsh! But I like it! We could see teams pulling goalies in tie games...
 
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Looks like bigtennetwork.com is picking up both the UW games. I'd rather not pay $3 per game, though, to see a choppy feed.
 
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