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Atlantic Hockey Says No; So Long Chargers?
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manurespreader
Still upright
I agree. I don't get how AH couldn't take you to replace RMU but regardless it's lousy. I blame BGSU.
moose97
New member
Sorry, but UAH was, most likely, the 3rd best option of the 3 schools that applied. Two months ago, I would have laid money on LIU being the only one accepted, making the conference 12 schools. Once RMU dropped, they had to accept two or none. LIU + mystery school (Navy) was the best solution, but I'm guessing Navy isn't as close as the perception is (despite the rumors they applied). That made none a WAY better option than LIU + UAH. Honestly, ask yourself if you think it makes sense to accept a school to your conference that has dropped hockey THREE TIMES and has to rely on GoFundMe to support a single season. Again sorry, but if I'm running AHA, I want a school that is going to be around for more than 5 minutes.
AMC
Registered User
This isn't AHA's fault. As a college hockey community, those of us who are fans of bigger schools in more well-funded conferences can't be upset at smaller schools in smaller conferences if they don't want to bear the burden of UAH or UAA or whatever small, out of vogue team needs a home.
If it is so important to have UAH hockey exist, I don't see the Big Ten or NCHC or Hockey East stepping in to save the day. It would be much easier for those schools to absorb the costs of traveling to Huntsville, it would be easier for schools in multi-bid conferences to absorb the RPI hit of playing UAH, it would be a bigger boon to UAH to have home games against North Dakota, Michigan, or Boston College than it would be Canisius or Sacred Heart or AIC. But UAH hockey in the Big Ten/NCHC/HEA is a laughable concept, so everyone gets to blame AHA.
Every argument I've heard for why the CCHA or AHA should bear the brunt of having UAA, Alaska, UAH, etc. in their conference consists of "here's why this wouldn't sting for you that much." At some point, you need to add value on your own merits.
If it is so important to have UAH hockey exist, I don't see the Big Ten or NCHC or Hockey East stepping in to save the day. It would be much easier for those schools to absorb the costs of traveling to Huntsville, it would be easier for schools in multi-bid conferences to absorb the RPI hit of playing UAH, it would be a bigger boon to UAH to have home games against North Dakota, Michigan, or Boston College than it would be Canisius or Sacred Heart or AIC. But UAH hockey in the Big Ten/NCHC/HEA is a laughable concept, so everyone gets to blame AHA.
Every argument I've heard for why the CCHA or AHA should bear the brunt of having UAA, Alaska, UAH, etc. in their conference consists of "here's why this wouldn't sting for you that much." At some point, you need to add value on your own merits.
DrunkTrainPolka
GO TECH GOLD!
do you have a source/article? ...just want to check it out myself. thanks.
DrunkTrainPolka
GO TECH GOLD!
the creation of the B1G and the NACHO was one of greedy egoistic vanity.
the leftover stew of the old WCHA and the old CCHA was one of no-choice reactionary survival.
the resurrection of the CCHA was one of we-thought-about-this-some survival.
and while it sucks, based on the current where/when/what/who;
the demise of RMU/UAA/UAH may be one of necessity at this point...
but it doesn't have to be this way. at all.
especially with the likes of LIU, LU, and AU being official about their intent for the future...
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TalonsUpPuckDown
Roll along you BG Warriors!
Only source I've been able to find is the UAH Hockey site (independent from the university).
https://uahhockey.com/blog/2021/07/12/atlantic-hockey-votes-no-on-expansion/
moose97
New member
Sigh, can we please not with the B1G blame? How many times must it be noted that the bylaws required formation of a hockey conference once PSU added the sport? Now, go ahead with the NCHC blame. I'm here for that.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
The B1G could've amended their bylaws. They didn't. <-- first domino
DrunkTrainPolka
GO TECH GOLD!
hahahahaha... gotta love hating the NACHO!
yeah... but [B1G] bylaws that woulda have been changed or massaged if it was to their advantage.
ain't stuck in the past; this new-CCHA thingie got me quite excited... GO TECH GOLD!
moose97
New member
Riiiggghhht. Because that makes so much sense
JohnsonsJerseys
Michigan Tech Fan
I wouldn't write UAH off yet as they seem to finally have some people willing to take the lead and drive the program's financial future. But as others have posted they keep shooting themselves in the foot over and over. Folding, returning, folding, returning and now folding before Atlantic even made their decision? Maybe that makes sense for the players, but it was a horrible look for the future of the program.
Not having an active team makes AH's decision much easier to turn UAH away right now. This isn't over because UAH, UAF, UAA?, LIU, Lindenwood, South Dakota, ASU are all still looking for conference homes. RMU closing up shop on short notice was already one shock to AH this season, maybe they just like having that open spot to see who impresses them the most over the next couple seasons? There are still too many loose pieces floating around in D-I hockey at this point. The shuffling will continue for several years to come.
And yes, this is all the fault of the Knee-jerk Nachos who crumbled and trembled at the loss of WI and MN as if they were the cornerstones of hockey that Division I was built on...
Not having an active team makes AH's decision much easier to turn UAH away right now. This isn't over because UAH, UAF, UAA?, LIU, Lindenwood, South Dakota, ASU are all still looking for conference homes. RMU closing up shop on short notice was already one shock to AH this season, maybe they just like having that open spot to see who impresses them the most over the next couple seasons? There are still too many loose pieces floating around in D-I hockey at this point. The shuffling will continue for several years to come.
And yes, this is all the fault of the Knee-jerk Nachos who crumbled and trembled at the loss of WI and MN as if they were the cornerstones of hockey that Division I was built on...
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The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
The B1G could've amended the "six means B1G play" rule then UMn and UW could've stayed WCHA; UMi, MiSU, OSU stay CCHA; and PSU could've done PSU things.
The B1G didn't do that because they wanted B1G Hockey on B1G Network with no TV revenue sharing.
moose97
New member
The (old) WCHA would have been just fine:
UAA, BSU, CC, DU. MtU, UMD, MSU, UNO, UND & SCSU
The (old) CCHA also would have also been okay:
UAF, BG, Ferris, LSSU, Notre Dame, NMU & WMU (and probably could have absorbed UAH)
But no. The NCHC got penis envy. The B1G wasn't really the first domino. Notre Dame thought they needed to go east. That's what ruined it all
UAA, BSU, CC, DU. MtU, UMD, MSU, UNO, UND & SCSU
The (old) CCHA also would have also been okay:
UAF, BG, Ferris, LSSU, Notre Dame, NMU & WMU (and probably could have absorbed UAH)
But no. The NCHC got penis envy. The B1G wasn't really the first domino. Notre Dame thought they needed to go east. That's what ruined it all
moose97
New member
You are proving my point
moose97
New member
While the donors are in place, the school has insisted on getting into a conference. Which isnt happening
There is no "RMU spot." They were looking to expand to get back to an even number. Now that have 10, why go back to 11? Much more likely they go to 12.
TalonsUpPuckDown
Roll along you BG Warriors!
<golf clap> You forgot to include Miami State in the oCCHA which speaks volumes as to their relevance in college hockey these days relative to their role in torpedoing that conference </golf clap>
moose97
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The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
How? By showing the B1G could've changed an internal B1G bylaw for the betterment of greater college hockey but instead they went B1G first over everyone else? PSU followed by the B1G's action (inaction?) started the whole chain of events.
The NCHC was a reaction B1G Hockey being formed. The B1G could've prevented it.
moose97
New member
The B1G has ZERO history of allowing their members to play in separate conferences when they have enough to form their own. Your suggestion the B1G should have or even could have acted altruisticly is absurd. Yes, the NCHC was reactionary. But acting like the B1G had some choice is laughable.