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Arizona State Moving To D1

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QUAlum2004 said:
I think that if the PAC12 conference happens then we possibly see another tournament expansion with 20 teams in the tournament with 2 play in games.
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I hope not. The tournament can't find suitable locations for the 4 regionals they have now, half the time. We don't need to add four more games that no one will pay to see to the mix. I don't want to see another expansion to the tournament field until we either see far more than 64 teams or the tournament becomes a more successful product in terms of TV ratings (never gonna happen) or at the gate consistently at all 4 regionals.
 
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QUAlum2004 said:
I think that if the PAC12 conference happens then we possibly see another tournament expansion with 20 teams in the tournament with 2 play in games.
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The NCAA has a preference for its tournaments to include approx. 25% of the teams playing in that division. So hockey would have to add about 20 teams (around 80 total) for the NCAA to bump the tourney to 20 teams.
 
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Great day for us hockey fans in Arizona! I had hoped for this for awhile, and the AD had made noises about wanting to do this recently, but I really didn't expect it to happen anytime soon, if ever. The club team has been building for a number of years, culminating in winning the national title last season. Sure there will be growing pains and there's a number of things to sort out, but I think they'll sort it out and the program will eventually thrive. There are other arena options, including some renovation of Wells Fargo arena (ASU's basketball arena), maybe the Coyotes arena in Glendale, or the old Madhouse on Mcdowell (the Suns' old arena and where minor league hockey has played for many years). I've been very impressed with Anderson since he came on as ASU's AD and I don't think they'd move forward on this unless they had a good idea of what they were doing and that it had a good probability of working. It'd be great to land in the NCHC, where my UMD Bulldogs are. Then I'd get to see the doggies come to town regularly, though it'd be tough to decide which of my alma maters to root for when they would face each other. It's a good day for hockey in Arizona!
 
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To correct some mis conceptions, the chances are strong that they would charter out to all the away games, except alaska. Figure 15 to 20 dollars per nautical mile each way for the cost of transportation. That would mean also that whether they play in Bemidji or omaha or the springs is immaterial, they all have runways. Most big ten teams charter now btw. In other words, what league they might join is not really affected by the travel.

I think 32 million is pretty light if they really want to endow the whole thing.

Just my opinion though. Any civil engineers out there that can speak to how much it might cost to build a 7000 seat free standing rink?
 
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manurespreader said:
To correct some mis conceptions, the chances are strong that they would charter out to all the away games, except alaska. Figure 15 to 20 dollars per nautical mile each way for the cost of transportation. That would mean also that whether they play in Bemidji or omaha or the springs is immaterial, they all have runways. Most big ten teams charter now btw. In other words, what league they might join is not really affected by the travel.

I think 32 million is pretty light if they really want to endow the whole thing.

Just my opinion though. Any civil engineers out there that can speak to how much it might cost to build a 7000 seat free standing rink?
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It may not affect Arizona State, but it would affect the other members of their league that have to travel there.

Omaha's new 7500-seat arena cost about $80 million for the actual arena. ASU's plan at the moment seems to renovating their crappy ice arena or adding ice making capabilities to their basketball arena, which are both probably around the $10+ million range.
 
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Long term a source of funding that will become available for ASU athletics is revenue from the commercial/office district they are developing along the Tempe Town Lake. Short term any revenue from that is likely to go toward funding of Sun Devil Stadium renovations, but once the stadium is renovated, those funds will be available to go other directions, so that could be a help long term in providing hockey facilities in some fashion.
 
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manurespreader said:
To correct some mis conceptions, the chances are strong that they would charter out to all the away games, except alaska. Figure 15 to 20 dollars per nautical mile each way for the cost of transportation. That would mean also that whether they play in Bemidji or omaha or the springs is immaterial, they all have runways. Most big ten teams charter now btw. In other words, what league they might join is not really affected by the travel.

I think 32 million is pretty light if they really want to endow the whole thing.

Just my opinion though. Any civil engineers out there that can speak to how much it might cost to build a 7000 seat free standing rink?
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RIT's 4000 seat arena (4300 capacity) cost $38 mil
 
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JohnsonsJerseys said:
Yeah, the Coyotes are just killing it down there - certainly a hockey hotbed with tens of thousands of fans just screaming for a hockey team.
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Yes, please, let's compare the prospects of an un-competative NHL team (outside of minor recent success) whose located 45 minutes from the city center to a college team that is going to be located in the hot bed of an 80k student campus.

JohnsonsJerseys said:
Paying $5 to watch a club team is not the same as paying $20-$25 to watch a D-I hockey team. How many of those fans are going to come to games at 5 times the cost just because they're suddenly playing teams they don't play in any other sports.
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The only way ASU gets away with charging $20-30 per ticket is if they're winning titles. AHA tickets are more aptly priced in the $6-20 range which would fill seats in Tempe.
 
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Biddco said:
Going based off of Bill Robertson's comments over the summer about hockey expanding into the sun belt I'd say the WCHA is leader to pick up ASU.
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Oh please, just say it isn't so... Unless ASU plans on picking up everyone's tab to come play them in AZ.

On the other hand if the WCHA member teams actually want ASU that should pretty much put to an end any thoughts of how broke the WCHA is...

If ASU wants to fly to every game, they might as well join Hockey East.

Ryan J
 
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At first when I started getting texts about this yesterday from gscott13 I thought it was a joke.

Apparently this is really happening. Still a joke, though.

And bad for college hockey IMO.
 
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That article made me chuckle, not that it had much substance. ASU going D1 is somehow going to run small schools out of the sport? Just like happened when Penn State joined. Oh, wait, Union won the national title, not any of the big schools. Fear the fork all you who tremble at the thought of ASU hockey!

As for travel, most folks have to fly to get to schools like Denver and Colorado College, and have for decades. Nothing really very new or different with ASU's situation. But, I guess there'll be a few naysayers about pretty much anything that comes along.
 
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CollegeHockeyRinkReport said:
A negative view on ASU moving to D1

http://sbnation.com/e/7010744
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Please. There just isn't enough "big" schools who want to play in the icebox. If five more schools out west decide to join ASU only then will I get even remotely concerned with the big schools gobbling up the small schools. You see UMD and Union have done something like win a National Championship that schools like PSU, ASU, UConn have not done yet. I want to see hockey grow around the country and if big schools want to join so be it.
 
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JF_Gophers said:
Colorado should add hockey next and partner with ASU to join a conference.
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My sense is that Colorado's athletic program has had a rocky time lately, with the football program in shambles, so I doubt they would give this much thought at least for awhile. I'd personally like to see the University of Arizona go D1 and we'd maintain our local rivalry with them. They used to draw well over 10,000 to games at times when the Wildcats were riding high. Lately ASU has owned them going like 38-1 in recent years against the U of A. Can't say I've heard anything about them going D1, unlike ASU, where there's been chatter for awhile about the possibility.
 
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