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AOC Rules!

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alfablue said:
Why does it matter what she thinks is a handout?
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This is why:

The Rube said:
Now, to Ivanka, what is her definition of a handout?:

Welfare
Food stamps
College loan forgiveness
If you want to stretch it, stadiums for pro sports owners (they don't own stadium, but reap added profits)
etc

That's why I asked for clarification of her comments in the first place. What is her definition of a handout?
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Then we can judge her comment correctly. If she thinks she got a handout (by getting handed a business), ok, she is saying she did get a handout. If she doesn't think that was a handout, then she would judged more harshly.
 
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The Rube said:
This is why:



Then we can judge her comment correctly. If she thinks she got a handout (by getting handed a business), ok, she is saying she did get a handout. If she doesn't think that was a handout, then she would judged more harshly.
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She is saying people don't want handouts, why would she take one unless she is an enormously stupid big fat lying hypocrite? And if that's the case, why should we listen to her? See, doesn't matter what she thinks, either way she is a moron and should be ignored.
 
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jerphisch said:
She is saying people don't want handouts, why would she take one unless she is an enormously stupid big fat lying hypocrite? And if that's the case, why should we listen to her? See, doesn't matter what she thinks, either way she is a moron and should be ignored.
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DING. Then she doesn't consider that a handout, from our point of view. THAT is why she needs to define what a handout is, and speak to that point.
 
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The Rube said:
DING. Then she doesn't consider that a handout, from our point of view. THAT is why she needs to define what a handout is, and speak to that point.
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But it doesn't matter, if she doesn't believe it was a handout she plain old nuts. She is either dumb or evil and neither deserves an audience.
 
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jerphisch said:
But it doesn't matter, if she doesn't believe it was a handout she plain old nuts. She is either dumb or evil and neither deserves an audience.
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We don't know if she believes it or not, because she didn't expand her thoughts on handouts and what defines a handout. Heck, my parents paid for some of my college. To me, that's a handout. To others, that is a family taking care of their own. *shrug*

See what I'm getting at? (Sincere, not trying to provoke). Everyone's definition is different.
 
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Also, for context, she was also literally talking about people, "not wanting a handout" in response to policy proposals of AOC despite the fact that the most recent one that she's been advocating for (a Green New Deal) includes a job guarantee. You know, working for money.
 
The Rube said:
DING. Then she doesn't consider that a handout, from our point of view. THAT is why she needs to define what a handout is, and speak to that point.
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Which doesn't change the fact one bit that she's an entitled, selfish, member of the elitest 1% that tells everyone else how they should live, while jetsettibg around the world living the high life.

But Hillary's still a criminal who belongs in jail. The view from the center, ladies and gentlemen.
 
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rufus said:
Which doesn't change the fact one bit that she's an entitled, selfish, member of the elitest 1% that tells everyone else how they should live, while jetsettibg around the world living the high life.

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Sounds a lot like Hilary, doesn't it?
 
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The Rube said:
This is why:



Then we can judge her comment correctly. If she thinks she got a handout (by getting handed a business), ok, she is saying she did get a handout. If she doesn't think that was a handout, then she would judged more harshly.
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How does that matter at all?

If she does think it's a handout, and she's ok for not working for it, she's out of touch with the poor she talks about.
If she doesn't think it's a handout, that she somehow earned by being spawned on dumpy, she's out of touch with the poor she talks about.

Especially if she is trying to say that giving people jobs is somehow a giveaway- which IS what she did try to point out.

Her argument against the New Green Deal was pretty dumb. She's against it because people want to work for stuff, and the deal wan't to make sure everyone gets a job.
 
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The Rube said:
We don't know if she believes it or not, because she didn't expand her thoughts on handouts and what defines a handout. Heck, my parents paid for some of my college. To me, that's a handout. To others, that is a family taking care of their own. *shrug*

See what I'm getting at? (Sincere, not trying to provoke). Everyone's definition is different.
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I see what you're saying, but it still doesn't make sense. Let's say she does see that the initial receipt of money and a job was a handout but thinks that from there she worked hard and earned what she has. The GND guarantees the same thing, a job, which then requires work. Even if you look at it as just a family taking care of it's own, would that not be the whole point of "America first," taking care of our own? So she still has no point other than mindlessly flapping her gums.
 
jerphisch said:
I see what you're saying, but it still doesn't make sense. Let's say she does see that the initial receipt of money and a job was a handout but thinks that from there she worked hard and earned what she has. The GND guarantees the same thing, a job, which then requires work. Even if you look at it as just a family taking care of it's own, would that not be the whole point of "America first," taking care of our own? So she still has no point other than mindlessly flapping her gums.
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Yeah I don’t get the argument here. This dumb POS is saying that giving g people jobs is a bad thing because they want to work.
This might be the dumbest argument on this board, ever.
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Yeah I don’t get the argument here. This dumb POS is saying that giving g people jobs is a bad thing because they want to work.
This might be the dumbest argument on this board, ever.
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IDK, maybe we just need to figure out what she considers to be an entitlement because somehow that would make her argument totally make sense...
 
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walrus said:
Sounds a lot like Hilary, doesn't it?
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Hillary sucks now, because almost everybody who touches money turns into a monster, but she spent most of her life doing good for people she didn't know. Few "conservatives" and no Dumpies can say the same.
 
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