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Re: Another Book Thread
As a woman I find this a microcosm of our current society- schizoid on what it would like to expect from women. Clever way to make sure no women is never enough and great way to sell a whole lot of things to make her try to be anyway. This has definitely escalated with the increase of media at your fingertips.
Media is saturated with things that publicly celebrate all the demigod characteristics, the implication being if a woman doesn't try to have a face that launched a thousand ships then there is something wrong with her and she is deficient. It is getting ridiculous- wildly exaggerated characteristics-long and intricately painted fake nails, fake eyelashes, fake eyebrows, fake hair color ad extensions, heavy make up to sculpt the face smooth and perfect, all sorts of shapewear/surgery to magnify or diminish attributes- women are starting to look like cartoon characters blown all out of proportion).
We get told the ideal is to be all things- smart, funny, self sufficient, not be dependent on men, happy with out bodies, be fit, organized- the feminist ideal but.... At the same time if the woman does these things and is even slightly successful then she is not meeting the expectation of emulating Beaver Cleever's Mum and is criticized for being to beautiful, smart, pushy. It is impossible to be all things simultaneously but if you read the media aimed at women they imply it is and also sell all sorts of articles, classes, seminars with hints of how that are impossible to implement
Starting The Charterhouse of Parma by Stendahl, the book about which Tolstoy said he hadn't understood war until he read it. The author is very witty and so far the book is a good companion. I read very slowly so I am looking forward to this as my summer fiction book.
I am also still reading (auditing) the non-fiction All Things Shining; it's a wonderful book. I'll illustrate with a very short note. At one point the authors talk about a chapter in the Odyssey which frankly I don't remember. Helen is back home after the events of the Iliad and she's at a dinner feast. The guests are trading stories, as in the Decameron or Canterbury Tales. As hers she tells the story of her going off to Troy with Paris. All the guests are enchanted by her story, especially Menelaus, the husband she cuckholded. Homer is highly complimentary of her and describes her as at her most beautiful and emblematic of "all things shining," hence the title of the book.
The question is: w t f do we make of this? The Homeric Greeks thought differently than us and they admire Helen both as a wife and mother in her domestic role and as a demigoddess of erotic love as the face that launched a thousand ships. They have no trouble with the contradiction between these and simply would not think to reconcile them: they are just different contexts for her as a woman. We lack the mental equipment to do this because we have a completely different sense of being as something coming from inside us that should be consistent. But the Greeks viewed being as winds and muses that blow through us, so just as the wind can shift suddenly, our being can shift and all we can do is behave excellently given the context.
I didn't expect the book to be anywhere near as thoughtful and deep as it is. I highly recommend it.
As a woman I find this a microcosm of our current society- schizoid on what it would like to expect from women. Clever way to make sure no women is never enough and great way to sell a whole lot of things to make her try to be anyway. This has definitely escalated with the increase of media at your fingertips.
Media is saturated with things that publicly celebrate all the demigod characteristics, the implication being if a woman doesn't try to have a face that launched a thousand ships then there is something wrong with her and she is deficient. It is getting ridiculous- wildly exaggerated characteristics-long and intricately painted fake nails, fake eyelashes, fake eyebrows, fake hair color ad extensions, heavy make up to sculpt the face smooth and perfect, all sorts of shapewear/surgery to magnify or diminish attributes- women are starting to look like cartoon characters blown all out of proportion).
We get told the ideal is to be all things- smart, funny, self sufficient, not be dependent on men, happy with out bodies, be fit, organized- the feminist ideal but.... At the same time if the woman does these things and is even slightly successful then she is not meeting the expectation of emulating Beaver Cleever's Mum and is criticized for being to beautiful, smart, pushy. It is impossible to be all things simultaneously but if you read the media aimed at women they imply it is and also sell all sorts of articles, classes, seminars with hints of how that are impossible to implement