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Another Book Thread

Kepler said:
(from March)

If you get to Christmas 2020 without reading something you've "always wanted to read," you are never going to read it.

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I have 2 days.
 
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St. Clown said:
This is by no means a bad book
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yeah, it was. Cline caught magic in a bottle with RP1, but Armada was just a poorly written Last Starfighter ripoff and RP2 was as bad as most Hollywood sequels to surprise breakout hits.

As just one example of extremely lazy writing, it takes the entire world several years to find the first new MacGuffin despite massive incentives to do so. But somehow the remaining ones can then be found in less than a day (along with a side quest for the ultimate weapon)?

He got my money, so he's laughing all the way to the bank, but I won't be reading any more of his works unless I'm really bored and it's on the shelf at the library and there's literally nothing else catching my eye.
 
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And I say all that as someone who reads, and enjoys, a lot of crappy sci-fi and fantasy novels. So don't take my comments as hating the genre. There's lots of books that are crap but highly entertaining. Cline's problem is RP2 isn't entertaining.
 
unofan said:
yeah, it was. Cline caught magic in a bottle with RP1, but Armada was just a poorly written Last Starfighter ripoff and RP2 was as bad as most Hollywood sequels to surprise breakout hits.

As just one example of extremely lazy writing, it takes the entire world several years to find the first new MacGuffin despite massive incentives to do so. But somehow the remaining ones can then be found in less than a day (along with a side quest for the ultimate weapon)?

He got my money, so he's laughing all the way to the bank, but I won't be reading any more of his works unless I'm really bored and it's on the shelf at the library and there's literally nothing else catching my eye.
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I thought about that. Maybe you're right, maybe not. It took Wade some 3 years before cracking the first clue, and that was only done with help from another user via a reward scheme. After that, Wade and crew were given clues that had a different aim than the first. While the first contest/hunt was meant to be ultimately difficult in order to prove worthiness of owning the Oasis, this hunt was meant to provide an understanding and restore a perceived wrong. To me it made sense that the levels of difficulty would differ.

Certainly this book was not as good as the first, but I didn't think it was a horrible book. I've read much worse.
 
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I thought about that. Maybe you're right, maybe not. It took Wade some 3 years before cracking the first clue, and that was only done with help from another user via a reward scheme. After that, Wade and crew were given clues that had a different aim than the first. While the first contest/hunt was meant to be ultimately difficult in order to prove worthiness of owning the Oasis, this hunt was meant to provide an understanding and restore a perceived wrong. To me it made sense that the levels of difficulty would differ.

Certainly this book was not as good as the first, but I didn't think it was a horrible book. I've read much worse.
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The more I think about it, I think the Hollywood sequel analogy is apt. Because it reads like a standard mediocre movie jumping from set piece to set piece, with the underlying plot merely being the vehicle to get to the set pieces. RP2 reads like he wrote the pop culture laden set pieces ahead of time and then hastily crafted a reason to bind them together, which is bass ackwards. The focus needs to be on the plot and characters, because without that, there's no reason to care about the 50-page long battle.
 
Yeah, chances are high that he made much more money on the movie than he has on all of his books combined. There's also a lesson for authors to not have their first novel turned into a movie or TV show prior to a few sequels (assuming that's the author's intent) having already been written, or for them to even sniff out the possibility of it being so.
 
St. Clown said:
I think you've been using that same line since Vonnegut last published a book.
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Have I used it before?

There are definitely writers who are "idea people." It isn't always bad writers, either. 98% of Arthur C. Clarke is the idea. The writing is kind of an unfortunate process of fleshing it out. Larry Niven, too, though at least he has a sense of humor about it (he was apparently pretty famous for denigrating his own writing ability).

I'm opposing this to popular writers who can at least write a little. Asimov is the Ur example of quantity over quality, where the coolness of the ideas makes up for the paucity of writing talent. Heinlein is rather infamously another. A deep, dark secret is William Gibson is not really that good of a writer, but he's good enough to carry you along.

Not everybody has to be a serious writer like Theodore Sturgeon, Frederick Pohl, or Ursula Le Guin, but they should have a modicum of writing ability. Cline does not have this. He had a good idea, and that was great for the first hundred pages or so, but after that it's basically Young Adult Fiction, like The Maze Runner or that thing with the hot archeress.
 
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Ready Player Two: It's the sequel to Ready Player One, and certainly not as good in terms of relating itself to the universe in which it's based. The story focuses on a new uber-villain, and it's tough to really get into that idea. Honestly, it felt a little like an old episode of Star Trek TNG. There are some fun references in the book that are completely new compared to the first book, and even a nod or two to the Ready Player One movie, which was unexpected and well done if you're paying attention. This is by no means a bad book, it just doesn't evoke the same desire to connect with the protagonist that the first one did.

Note: I listened to this one via Audible, as I did the first one. Will Wheaton is a great audiobook narrator. He's not doing voice acting, just reading with inflection, and the occasional accent when the character's accent is noted. Regarding the inflection note, he puts it into various characters' voices, fitted nicely to the situation at hand, and it's not overdone.
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I listened to the book again. And...it really isn't a good book. I think I was just enamored with Will Wheaton's performance. There were a few parts I enjoyed, references to various geek-life bits, and Wade's personal issues/despair from the start of the book, but the majority of the book just doesn't hold attention. It relied upon too many of the situations where Problem X requires Solution Y. Luckily... That just removes all drama from the situation.
 
I love those saying "Dr. Seuss is cancelled" not being able to name even one of the books the estate removed from publication. Not even one.

This has to be the end result of teaching to pass a state standardized test instead of developing critical thinking skills. Has to be. Or was that DJT?
 
MissThundercat said:
I love those saying "Dr. Seuss is cancelled" not being able to name even one of the books the estate removed from publication. Not even one.

This has to be the end result of teaching to pass a state standardized test instead of developing critical thinking skills. Has to be. Or was that DJT?
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You aren't supposed to think. You're just supposed to be outraged​​​​​​. ;-)
 
mookie blew through The Premonition by Michael Lewis last week. obviously a worthwhile read as the guy can spin a yarn with ease.
 
I'd never even heard of this work until I started to read C. S. Lewis' book on The Allegory of Love (100% recommend, spectacular and every page needs days of thinking). In all honesty: had anybody? It was apparently one of the most widely read and quoted texts in the Middle Ages. (It's the same story as in Antigone and Seven Against Thebes, which are far more well know stories).

This is one question that constantly motivates me: how can we presume we can climb into the heads of people of other ages when we don't even know what their MCU was?
 
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I love reading books. This is my hobby. I like to read detective stories, romance and horror. But when I was in university I didn't have time to read books. I also started working to have more pocket money. It was hard to combine but I tried ( nursing essays for sale helped me with studying). Now I just work and read books from time to time and it's so wonderful!
 
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