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Announced: UConn to Hockey East

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My daughter has attended UConn for three years and does not even know where Freita's Rink is. Another point about the place is that it is not an easy place to get to on campus, not a realistic walk from the dorms.

It is a much more realistic walk than you think, but I address that mostly in my next post.

In the long run, it may be more cost effective and a better plan to build a new hockey facility closer to the student population, and use Freitas as a womens and mens practice facility.

There really aren't many good places to do that, though. UConn doesn't have a concentrated student population, because the dorms basically occupy a ring around the "academic core". Said core is very highly built up (in terms of land usage, not building height), and there aren't any good places one could drop a new hockey facility within it (not even Gampel is inside the core). Any place you'd build around the core will basically, by necessity, be isolate from some grouping of students. As it stands, it's currently an easy walk from the Hilltop area, MacMahon, West Campus, South Campus and Alumni residence halls, and all the other dorms are covered by bus.
 
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It is a much more realistic walk than you think, but I address that mostly in my next post.



There really aren't many good places to do that, though. UConn doesn't have a concentrated student population, because the dorms basically occupy a ring around the "academic core". Said core is very highly built up (in terms of land usage, not building height), and there aren't any good places one could drop a new hockey facility within it (not even Gampel is inside the core). Any place you'd build around the core will basically, by necessity, be isolate from some grouping of students. As it stands, it's currently an easy walk from the Hilltop area, MacMahon, West Campus, South Campus and Alumni residence halls, and all the other dorms are covered by bus.
It really is much more a question of encouraging student interest/support than anything else. Freitas is adjacent to the soccer stadium and they don't have too much trouble getting folks there. It is part of the athletic complex that stretches from Gampel and the football training complex down the hill to the baseball, soccer and softball facilities and the whole area is scheduled for an upgrade over the next 5-10 years. Now granted walking from South Campus on a coolish late September or October evening for a soccer game and making the same trek on a frigid January to watch hockey are very different experiences, but hey, at least they get to watch the games indoors now...RST and I have watched them in an outdoor rink, right Dick?
 
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I have probably seen more games in the outdoor rink than the indoor rink. The warming hut had a certain charm. Would like to see a fireplace in the lobby area included in any improvement plans for Freitas. That would give it atmosphere. If anyone from the UConn staff reads this post, though, they will die laughing. "Is there anything else you want?" One year I complained about the faintness of the blue lines at the old place. I heard about it for a couple years in little off-hand snide comments from various people. Not to mention that I had traveled to an away tournament game (how many people did that in the old days?), they were more interested in letting me know their displeasure about my blue line comment.
 
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I have probably seen more games in the outdoor rink than the indoor rink. The warming hut had a certain charm. Would like to see a fireplace in the lobby area included in any improvement plans for Freitas. That would give it atmosphere. If anyone from the UConn staff reads this post, though, they will die laughing. "Is there anything else you want?" One year I complained about the faintness of the blue lines at the old place. I heard about it for a couple years in little off-hand snide comments from various people. Not to mention that I had traveled to an away tournament game (how many people did that in the old days?), they were more interested in letting me know their displeasure about my blue line comment.
The warming hut was pretty unique. They had a fireplace and the fire reall roared. I remember some nights being sorely tempted to stay there rather than go back out to watch the 3rd period...It would be sort of cool if they added a fire place to Freitas...I don't remember the blue lines being faint, but my main concern was staying warm, so maybe I didn't pay that much attention. Of course, playing outdoor games is all the rage now. Maybe UConn acted hastily in building an indoor rink!
 
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Does the following quote from AD Manuel mean that Coach Marshall is on a short leash? Thoughts????

"(Coach Marshall) knows that I'm here to help him in every way I can, but he also knows that my expectation is that we're pushing hard to win," Manuel said. "I don't like just participating in a sport. I like building to win. That's what our plan is moving forward. That's what our fans deserve, that's what our student-athletes deserve, and that's what our coaches are working to do."
 
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Thoughts????
I think it means pretty much what he said. Coach Marshall will get the opportunity to move the program forward. After a couple or three years of HE play, if the trajectory is not satisfactory, then he'll be given another role in the Athletic Department. I am sure that is the only opportunity that Coach Marshall ever wanted, or that any coach would want. The Huskies are not going to win immediately at that level, but the trajectory is what will be important. Playing at the HE level, the expectations are quite high and the consequences very unforgiving if not met. As Warde Manuel said, it is as if UConn has been playing 1-AA football and has suddenly been extended an opportunity to join the SEC. Trajectory over the first few years will be important. And the last couple of years in AHA play as well, as the scholarships start to ramp up.

An interesting corollary question: will UConn have any scholarship players this coming season?
 
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I think it means pretty much what he said. Coach Marshall will get the opportunity to move the program forward. After a couple or three years of HE play, if the trajectory is not satisfactory, then he'll be given another role in the Athletic Department. I am sure that is the only opportunity that Coach Marshall ever wanted, or that any coach would want. The Huskies are not going to win immediately at that level, but the trajectory is what will be important. Playing at the HE level, the expectations are quite high and the consequences very unforgiving if not met. As Warde Manuel said, it is as if UConn has been playing 1-AA football and has suddenly been extended an opportunity to join the SEC. Trajectory over the first few years will be important. And the last couple of years in AHA play as well, as the scholarships start to ramp up.

An interesting corollary question: will UConn have any scholarship players this coming season?

The Stafford consulting report that got FOIAed by the Hartford Courant says they plan to phase in scholarships starting this year. The team would have six, reaching 18 by the time they hit Hockey East.
 
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dobbs,

I'm curious about scholarship players, too. I wonder if there are any coming in this year or if the HEA decision came pretty late in the recruiting season and they'll start next year, either on a more rapid system or go forward holding out a couple until 2015. In a sense, it doesn'tr make sense to add scholarships just to add scholarships. It is also [possible that a couple of the current players got something. I think a pretty good case could be made that Bartus, for example, has earned a scholarship. Phasing those in could be a little bit tricky so as not to lose the current team. After all, you do need to play with the guys you have for the time being. The good thing about the hockey scholarships, if I remember corrently, is that, unlike football and basketball, you can give partial grants. So id you have 6 you can give partial rides to more than 6 players.
 
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The Stafford consulting report that got FOIAed by the Hartford Courant says they plan to phase in scholarships starting this year. The team would have six, reaching 18 by the time they hit Hockey East.
I hear you, but then I saw a quote somewhere that said that when they entered HE play they would have almost the full complement of 18 which suggests that maybe they spread three around among current players this year and then really go recruiting next year. It will be interesting to see if UConn has any really strong freshmen this year. That might be a clue that they got an early start. Anyone look on Heisenberg to see if a bunch of Canadians are coming? That would also be a clue.
 
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UConn v UMass: 51 days, 6 hours, 15 minutes
Let's get this rivalry going!!
 
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It really is much more a question of encouraging student interest/support than anything else. Freitas is adjacent to the soccer stadium and they don't have too much trouble getting folks there. It is part of the athletic complex that stretches from Gampel and the football training complex down the hill to the baseball, soccer and softball facilities and the whole area is scheduled for an upgrade over the next 5-10 years. Now granted walking from South Campus on a coolish late September or October evening for a soccer game and making the same trek on a frigid January to watch hockey are very different experiences, but hey, at least they get to watch the games indoors now...RST and I have watched them in an outdoor rink, right Dick?


Tear down those old brown frat and sorority houses between Gilbert and Whitney roads and you would have plenty of room for a rink.
 
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I hear you, but then I saw a quote somewhere that said that when they entered HE play they would have almost the full complement of 18 which suggests that maybe they spread three around among current players this year and then really go recruiting next year. It will be interesting to see if UConn has any really strong freshmen this year. That might be a clue that they got an early start. Anyone look on Heisenberg to see if a bunch of Canadians are coming? That would also be a clue.
Dick, there's a piece on the uconnuskies.com on the incoming class. Looks like a pretty "normal" UConn recruiting class to me. All from the US it appears. Six from the NAHL, a kid from Glastonbury from the EJHL, one from the Alberta League and one from the USHL. Who knows, I admit I don't follow amatuer hockey that closely, but if I were guessing I say that this is mostly a class that is comparable to the past few. Be awfully nice if a Cole Schnieder-type snuck in there...
 
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UConn v UMass: 51 days, 6 hours, 15 minutes
Let's get this rivalry going!!
Bought my tickets to the UConn game through the UMass ticket office today. Or at least I hope I did. They had us fill something out on the season ticket renewal form if we wanted away game tickets, and I asked for the UConn game. Earlier this week, they sent an email saying road games were on sale and could be purchased by calling the box office. The worker at the ticket office knew nothing about the form I sent in and took my information and said shed "ask her supervisor about it."

UMass allotment is in the corner of one of the endzones. Two sections in the lower bowl and two in the upper bowl. I requested seats in the upper bowl. Figure I'll get a better view of the entire field from there.

Never been to the stadium. How is it?
 
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Bought my tickets to the UConn game through the UMass ticket office today. Or at least I hope I did. They had us fill something out on the season ticket renewal form if we wanted away game tickets, and I asked for the UConn game. Earlier this week, they sent an email saying road games were on sale and could be purchased by calling the box office. The worker at the ticket office knew nothing about the form I sent in and took my information and said shed "ask her supervisor about it."

UMass allotment is in the corner of one of the endzones. Two sections in the lower bowl and two in the upper bowl. I requested seats in the upper bowl. Figure I'll get a better view of the entire field from there.

Never been to the stadium. How is it?

Speaking as a bandie-turned-season ticket holder (who's thus never missed a Rentschler game):

1) The sightlines are pretty good from anywhere in the stadium. I have tickets in section 209 in this map (basically over the visitor's tunnel), and I have a near-perfect view of everything. I've watched games from every corner, including in the blue chairbacks, and there really isn't a bad seat in the house. The stadium's still pretty new, so amenities are more or less up to date.
2) The concourse is, depending on your POV, either perfectly designed, or stupidly designed, for watching the game while not at your seat. The semi-urban legend around this is that one of the stadium designers stated he hated the idea of having to miss the action while standing in line for concessions, or try and watch it on an in-stadium TV. Accordingly, there's a solid 8 feet of difference between the upper and lower bowls (concourse is at ground level). If the weather isn't ideal, though, expect those concourse areas to be jammed full. On rainy days, you have the "empty seat, full concourse" anomaly in full effect.
3) In-stadium beer prices range from an arm to a leg. If you don't mind blowing 10 bucks on a Sam Adams or similar level of brew, there's a pretty good selection around the stadium, but...$10 a cup. In-stadium concessions are more reasonably priced than the beer, but they're still concession stand food. This leads me to (4).
4) The tailgating scene is quite good (or, at least MOST visiting fans will cop to, Boston College excepted*). There's no amenities near the stadium to speak of (in contrast to what you would expect at UMass, where the Amherst downtown is a short walk through campus from the stadium; it's not even on campus, but in a confluence of residential, commercial and industrial space in suburban Hartford), so the best advice is show up 3-4 hours before the game starts (gates only open 4 hours before game time), grill some meat and drink some beers.
4a) No charcoal grills allowed. Only propane and propane accessories.
4b) Be prepared for a decent walk. Some visiting fans swear by various off-field lots (which are typically a few bucks cheaper, albeit a longer walk to and from the stadium; Syracuse likes the Aero Club), but in all likelihood, you'll have to park in the red lots for game day, and depending on when you show, it can be a haul. Not as bad as it used to be when you used to park and tailgate only on the old runways, but my crew and I used to do something called the "two beer walk" from the Red lots. The reason it's "used to" is because we're one beer away from the stadium now. :)
5) Although it's not on campus, its accessibility can't be beat, as it's simple to get to the major Hartford highways (84, 91, Rt 2). That being said...get into the stadium early if you can. It's a Thursday night game, and you'll want to avoid having to deal with commuter traffic if at all possible, not to mention the crush of people who couldn't get off work but are still going to the game.
6) As you might expect from a late August game, it can still be quite hot. Sunscreen is a must if you're at all likely to burn, and the silver benches don't exactly dissipate heat or sunlight well either. I can also say...it hasn't failed to be sunny and cloudless in (essentially) ten years of home openers (even last year after the tropical storm).

*I expect one or more of them to stop by in short order and tell you to expect to have beer thrown at you and sworn at by drunken louts, as if that's what every UConn fan will do to you, based on the sum total of one game in 2003 (year included just in case the timing of such incidences wasn't at all clear), so I'm going to beat them to it. Except I don't agree that there'll be any incidences, much less that it will be inevitable.
 
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I second everything that Dobbs says. I've been to a few stadiums around the country and the sight lines at Rentschler are as good as you'll find. The tailgating, while not SEC level, is very good, too. We've parked in the red lot most of the time, and the walk is no worse than what I experienced other places. Certainly no worse than walking from say the Law School lot to Alumni Stadium at BC, if you've ever done that. It is a fun experience, and you'll definitely get the big time football feel.

Is it possible that you'll run into a couple of drunken louts? Sure. 99% of the people are fans and are perfectly respectful. Many will even offer you a beer or whatever they are grilling. The other 1% are likely to be A. College kids; B.Under age; C. drunk. Same as at any event like this. Why we even ran into that at of all places BC. I know they don't admit to having drunken louts, but walking past the townhouses with my 9 year old back in 2004, a drunk lad decided it would be fun to throw a beer at 9 year old girl because she was wearing a UConn hat. Alas he was too drunk to throw it accurately and hit the 3rd member of our group, a BC alumnus...I think the BC Alumni fund saw a reduction in donations that year...
 
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UMass allotment is in the corner of one of the endzones. Two sections in the lower bowl and two in the upper bowl. I requested seats in the upper bowl. Figure I'll get a better view of the entire field from there.
You will be right near the Blue Point Beer stand very near the scoreboard. Bring your ID no matter how old you look, try the Toasted Lager on tap, only one to a customer, unfortunately. The sausage, onions, and peppers right next to them are great.

I like to park at the Aircraft Club, entrance on the north side of Silver Lane just east of the junction of the I-84 off ramp and Silver Lane. The vibe there is a bit more mellow and the rules a bit more relaxed with real rest room facilities. Quick exit too. May park in the Blue lot this year though as it will be free. I upgraded, but went down to two tix from four. Btw, Silver Lane got its name in the Revolutionary War when Rochambeau's troops marched through on the way to NY and paid for all supplies in silver.

I have never seen the type of behavior that went on when BC was in the BE. Mostly it's just fans of opposing teams being critical of their own teams and commiserating, even when things are going well.

Dobbs, how come you know you are in 209? They are reseating this year and tix are not out yet.
 
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Dobbs, how come you know you are in 209? They are reseating this year and tix are not out yet.

Educated guess. We've been there, or in the neighborhood of there, for basically the entire run our group has gotten season tickets together. I think my buddy that orders the whole shebang puts in a request for that same area, and it doesn't usually go unfulfilled.
 
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