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All Things Denver, XXVIII
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Re: All Things Denver, XXVIII
Nice piece on Dineen, you'll notice a familiar picture taken from DG's blog. http://www.jacketscannon.com/2010/6/1/1496647/the-man-they-call-dino
Nice piece on Dineen, you'll notice a familiar picture taken from DG's blog. http://www.jacketscannon.com/2010/6/1/1496647/the-man-they-call-dino
Puck Swami
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Re: All Things Denver, XXVIII
Kevin has paid his dues and deserves a shot as an NHL head coach. Personally, I am hoping he gets the Tampa job. Working with Stevie Y as your boss would sound much more rewarding than working with the indecisive managment in Columbus....
Kevin has paid his dues and deserves a shot as an NHL head coach. Personally, I am hoping he gets the Tampa job. Working with Stevie Y as your boss would sound much more rewarding than working with the indecisive managment in Columbus....
dggoddard
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Re: All Things Denver, XXVIII
Sam Brittain radio interview.
http://www.thepipelineshow.com/clips/season_5/Sam_Brittain_June1.mp3
Sam Brittain radio interview.
http://www.thepipelineshow.com/clips/season_5/Sam_Brittain_June1.mp3
dggoddard
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Re: All Things Denver, XXVIII
Dineen would probably get more time to build in Columbus.
The problem with pro hockey compared to the NFL or NBA is that it takes so long for draft picks to develop. Even if Dineen gets three years, at either franchise, he's going to be doing it with the last regime's draft choices, free agents and mistakes.
Like major league baseball, 1/4 of the NHL teams have all the money to spend on the best players. Matt Carle is a perfect example. He probably wasn't worth the 2nd contract he signed with San Jose, but Philly could afford to take a chance on him and its worked out beautifully.
The Tampa franchise is a disaster. Feuding owners, serious cash problems and dumping players before contracts become due.
Dineen would probably get more time to build in Columbus.
The problem with pro hockey compared to the NFL or NBA is that it takes so long for draft picks to develop. Even if Dineen gets three years, at either franchise, he's going to be doing it with the last regime's draft choices, free agents and mistakes.
Like major league baseball, 1/4 of the NHL teams have all the money to spend on the best players. Matt Carle is a perfect example. He probably wasn't worth the 2nd contract he signed with San Jose, but Philly could afford to take a chance on him and its worked out beautifully.
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Looking forward to Brittain in the Crimson and Gold.
We all know that we have 2 young goalies and they will have a lot of net to fill with Chevy's departure.
Looking forward to Brittain in the Crimson and Gold.
We all know that we have 2 young goalies and they will have a lot of net to fill with Chevy's departure.
Puck Swami
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Re: All Things Denver, XXVIII
Speaking of NHL spending, here were last year's salaries for the six DU alumni players signed to full NHL contracts (does not include players getting AHL money like Trotter, Mannino, Gauthier, Skinner, Dingle, etc.)
Paul Stastny -$6.6 million
Matt Carle -$3.5 million
Tyler Bozak -$875,000
Wade Dubielewicz -$600,000
Chris Butler -$585,000
Matt Pettinger -$500,000
Speaking of NHL spending, here were last year's salaries for the six DU alumni players signed to full NHL contracts (does not include players getting AHL money like Trotter, Mannino, Gauthier, Skinner, Dingle, etc.)
Paul Stastny -$6.6 million
Matt Carle -$3.5 million
Tyler Bozak -$875,000
Wade Dubielewicz -$600,000
Chris Butler -$585,000
Matt Pettinger -$500,000
Re: All Things Denver, XXVIII
Now that Chevy's gone, how would you all rank these 4 DU goalies from recent years: Dubie, Berkhoel, Mannino and Cheverie? My non-statistical analysis would put them in this order:
1) Dubie
2) Manno
3) Berkhoel
4) Chevy
It's weird to have Chevy at the bottom of this list. But Berkhoel and Manno came through big-time for DU when it counted the most. Dubie didn't win a title, but I just remember him as such a dominant and consistent goalie that I can't put Manno above him.
Now that Chevy's gone, how would you all rank these 4 DU goalies from recent years: Dubie, Berkhoel, Mannino and Cheverie? My non-statistical analysis would put them in this order:
1) Dubie
2) Manno
3) Berkhoel
4) Chevy
It's weird to have Chevy at the bottom of this list. But Berkhoel and Manno came through big-time for DU when it counted the most. Dubie didn't win a title, but I just remember him as such a dominant and consistent goalie that I can't put Manno above him.
Cross-Czech
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Re: All Things Denver, XXVIII
Interesting question. All four were amazing goaltenders. I'll do two lists: one for who I think the "best" goalies were, and then one list for who will go down as the biggest "legends" at DU.
Not taking into consideration national championships:
1) Dubie
2) Chevy
3) Manno
4) Berkhoel
Taking into account national championships:
1) Berkhoel (his performance in the NCAAs that got us our first national championship since Neil Armstrong walked on the moon (credit Stickney) was absolutely incredible. This team had no business beating UND, UMD or Maine)
2) Manno (another increbile performance in the NCAAs, but he was on a better team than Berkhoel)
3) Dubie
4) Chevy
Interesting question. All four were amazing goaltenders. I'll do two lists: one for who I think the "best" goalies were, and then one list for who will go down as the biggest "legends" at DU.
Not taking into consideration national championships:
1) Dubie
2) Chevy
3) Manno
4) Berkhoel
Taking into account national championships:
1) Berkhoel (his performance in the NCAAs that got us our first national championship since Neil Armstrong walked on the moon (credit Stickney) was absolutely incredible. This team had no business beating UND, UMD or Maine)
2) Manno (another increbile performance in the NCAAs, but he was on a better team than Berkhoel)
3) Dubie
4) Chevy
du78
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Re: All Things Denver, XXVIII
Out of the group making under $1 million, I see Bozak as the one most likely to get a big contract next time. He is a burgeoning star with the Leafs. Pettinger and Dubie are old vets now and are pretty much extra parts for an NHL team. They will probably will never get to sign a big contract. Chris Butler after having a pretty good rookie season for Buffalo, had a sophomore slump last season. He needs to pick up his game if he wants to stick in the NHL. He's still young so the possibility is still there for him to become a top 4 d-man. The 2010/11 season for him is going to be huge and will probably be the harbinger for his future.
Out of the group making under $1 million, I see Bozak as the one most likely to get a big contract next time. He is a burgeoning star with the Leafs. Pettinger and Dubie are old vets now and are pretty much extra parts for an NHL team. They will probably will never get to sign a big contract. Chris Butler after having a pretty good rookie season for Buffalo, had a sophomore slump last season. He needs to pick up his game if he wants to stick in the NHL. He's still young so the possibility is still there for him to become a top 4 d-man. The 2010/11 season for him is going to be huge and will probably be the harbinger for his future.
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Puck Swami
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Re: All Things Denver, XXVIII
It really depends what you value most.
Dubie probably had the best four year career and was a second team all-American who turned down the NHL to return as a senior, but did not win the big prize.
Manno won the big NCAA prize as a freshman, and had a strong DU career, but was never an All-American.
Berkhoel won the big NCAA prize as a senior and was a standout when DU needed down the strretch that year but was up and down otherwise, and was also not an All-American.
Chevy started slowly at DU, but was a first team All-American as a junior and was a serious Hobey candidate until the end, when he was unable to carry the Pioneers to NCAA success.
One other thing to consider is the platooning nature of DU's goaltenders. Most seasons, DU has two goalies that split time 50/50 or 2/3rds-1/3 or so. Only Mannino and Chevy had a single season where they played most of the games. Dubie and Berkhoel were always platooned.
If you value overall stats, it's probably Dubie or Chevy.
If you value NCAA Hardware, it's either Manno or Berkhoel.
If you value All-American status, it's Chevy.
If you value four year careers, it's Dubie.
It really depends what you value most.
Dubie probably had the best four year career and was a second team all-American who turned down the NHL to return as a senior, but did not win the big prize.
Manno won the big NCAA prize as a freshman, and had a strong DU career, but was never an All-American.
Berkhoel won the big NCAA prize as a senior and was a standout when DU needed down the strretch that year but was up and down otherwise, and was also not an All-American.
Chevy started slowly at DU, but was a first team All-American as a junior and was a serious Hobey candidate until the end, when he was unable to carry the Pioneers to NCAA success.
One other thing to consider is the platooning nature of DU's goaltenders. Most seasons, DU has two goalies that split time 50/50 or 2/3rds-1/3 or so. Only Mannino and Chevy had a single season where they played most of the games. Dubie and Berkhoel were always platooned.
If you value overall stats, it's probably Dubie or Chevy.
If you value NCAA Hardware, it's either Manno or Berkhoel.
If you value All-American status, it's Chevy.
If you value four year careers, it's Dubie.
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A Shot and a Goal
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Re: All Things Denver, XXVIII
As you enter CFC from the south doors, the first thing you see upon entering is a banner recognizing the three-peat of the DU Ski Team after winning the NCAA title in 2008/2009/2010. Nice touch to see the team so honored.
As you enter CFC from the south doors, the first thing you see upon entering is a banner recognizing the three-peat of the DU Ski Team after winning the NCAA title in 2008/2009/2010. Nice touch to see the team so honored.
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Puck Swami
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Re: All Things Denver, XXVIII
Matt Carle made a great shot/pass that was redirected in the Chicago net to win Game 3 for the Flyers in OT 4-3. Carle played an awesome game.
Matt Carle made a great shot/pass that was redirected in the Chicago net to win Game 3 for the Flyers in OT 4-3. Carle played an awesome game.
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6/2/2010
Still Playing For The Stanley Cup
Matt Carle 0-12-12 +8 Philadelphia Flyers
I agree with Swami, like who wouldn't, Matt had an awesome game.
Seemed like he picked up his play in Game 2 and tonight he played an integral role for the Flyers. His name was mentioned almost as much as Pronger's.
Here's Pronger's interview and there's a question about Matt toward the end.
http://flyers.nhl.com/?navid=nav-teamnav-phi
6/2/2010
Still Playing For The Stanley Cup
Matt Carle 0-12-12 +8 Philadelphia Flyers
I agree with Swami, like who wouldn't, Matt had an awesome game.
Seemed like he picked up his play in Game 2 and tonight he played an integral role for the Flyers. His name was mentioned almost as much as Pronger's.
Here's Pronger's interview and there's a question about Matt toward the end.
http://flyers.nhl.com/?navid=nav-teamnav-phi
du78
Gunning For 10
Re: All Things Denver, XXVIII
Swami already mentioned Matt's assist on the winning goal last night. He also had the second assist on the game tying goal in the 3rd period. Very nice game by Matt last night. Tomorow night's game is another must win for the Flyers.
Swami must be in 7th heaven with his Flyers in the Cup Finals.
Swami already mentioned Matt's assist on the winning goal last night. He also had the second assist on the game tying goal in the 3rd period. Very nice game by Matt last night. Tomorow night's game is another must win for the Flyers.
Swami must be in 7th heaven with his Flyers in the Cup Finals.
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Deja Vu.
Chicago leads Philadelphia 2 games to 0. Matt Carle has winning assist on OT goal to give Flyers first win in Stanley Cup series. 6/2/10
In the NHL playoffs, Boston leads the Phildelphia Flyers three games to one. Matt Carle's winning assist in OT enabled Simon Gagne to score the winner which kept the Philadelphia Flyers' season alive. 5/7/10
Deja Vu.
Chicago leads Philadelphia 2 games to 0. Matt Carle has winning assist on OT goal to give Flyers first win in Stanley Cup series. 6/2/10
In the NHL playoffs, Boston leads the Phildelphia Flyers three games to one. Matt Carle's winning assist in OT enabled Simon Gagne to score the winner which kept the Philadelphia Flyers' season alive. 5/7/10
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There's no question Matt Carle has the magic touch! Who will ever forget DU/Maine in 2004. The Maine player has an easy tap in to tie the game, just as he's ready to shoot it in Matt Carle lifts his stick
Without a doubt it was going to be a goal. He saved our bacon as Maine had a lot more firepower than we did and that goal would have been a killer!! And he was only a Freshman!!!!
There's no question Matt Carle has the magic touch! Who will ever forget DU/Maine in 2004. The Maine player has an easy tap in to tie the game, just as he's ready to shoot it in Matt Carle lifts his stick
Without a doubt it was going to be a goal. He saved our bacon as Maine had a lot more firepower than we did and that goal would have been a killer!! And he was only a Freshman!!!!
Puck Swami
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Re: All Things Denver, XXVIII
Sure I am. I am used to long waits. It's been 35 years since the Flyers won a Cup and I was a young kid (1974) in the Philadelphia area. Conicidentally, 35 years is the same amount of time it took DU to win a NCAA title after winning the 1969 title up until 2004 in Boston...
That said, I was once a Blackhawks season ticket holder when I lived in Chicago after college, so I like the Hawks, too. They've been waiting since before I was born for a Cup...
Swami must be in 7th heaven with his Flyers in the Cup Finals.
Sure I am. I am used to long waits. It's been 35 years since the Flyers won a Cup and I was a young kid (1974) in the Philadelphia area. Conicidentally, 35 years is the same amount of time it took DU to win a NCAA title after winning the 1969 title up until 2004 in Boston...
That said, I was once a Blackhawks season ticket holder when I lived in Chicago after college, so I like the Hawks, too. They've been waiting since before I was born for a Cup...
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Have you seen the special on HBO on the Broad Street Bullies?
Sure I am. I am used to long waits. It's been 35 years since the Flyers won a Cup and I was a young kid (1974) in the Philadelphia area. Conicidentally, 35 years is the same amount of time it took DU to win a NCAA title after winning the 1969 title up until 2004 in Boston...
That said, I was once a Blackhawks season ticket holder when I lived in Chicago after college, so I like the Hawks, too. They've been waiting since before I was born for a Cup...
Have you seen the special on HBO on the Broad Street Bullies?
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