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All things Denver XXVI: From Boonetown to Motown
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Puck Swami
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Re: All things Denver XXVI: From Boonetown to Motown
He's still a kid. Give him some time.
He's still a kid. Give him some time.
Re: All things Denver XXVI: From Boonetown to Motown
Getting chills just thinking about it!
Getting chills just thinking about it!
Re: All things Denver XXVI: From Boonetown to Motown
Why would a d-man's stats worry you?
DU hasn't done much solid recruiting of players from that area since John Harrington -- if really even then. I personally like this development, I think our last recruit from Edina was Jay Moore about 20 years ago.
Why would a d-man's stats worry you?
DU hasn't done much solid recruiting of players from that area since John Harrington -- if really even then. I personally like this development, I think our last recruit from Edina was Jay Moore about 20 years ago.
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Puck Swami
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Re: All things Denver XXVI: From Boonetown to Motown
Current DU junior d-man Joey Brehm is from Edina. Although he's never played in a non-exhibition game.
Current DU junior d-man Joey Brehm is from Edina. Although he's never played in a non-exhibition game.
Re: All things Denver XXVI: From Boonetown to Motown
True. I think it was last season's exhibition game where Brehm took maybe 5 or 6 shifts and took about 3 or 4 penalties.
We mostly have had role players (Vossberg/May types) from around the Twin Cities the past 20 years -- except for Berkhoel, Chris Kenady and Jay Moore. I fully welcome this development of us getting a potential impact player from up there.
EDIT: Bryan Schoen could have been a top one, if he hadn't played on DU's worst-ever teams...
EDIT 2: http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0809/boxes/malbden1.o04 -- Brehm did indeed take 3 penalties (all lazy holding and hooking penalties) by about halfway through that game and I'm pretty sure he didn't take another shift after that 3rd penalty. No surprise we haven't seen him in a non-exhibition game.
Current DU junior d-man Joey Brehm is from Edina. Although he's never played in a non-exhibition game.
True. I think it was last season's exhibition game where Brehm took maybe 5 or 6 shifts and took about 3 or 4 penalties.
We mostly have had role players (Vossberg/May types) from around the Twin Cities the past 20 years -- except for Berkhoel, Chris Kenady and Jay Moore. I fully welcome this development of us getting a potential impact player from up there.
EDIT: Bryan Schoen could have been a top one, if he hadn't played on DU's worst-ever teams...
EDIT 2: http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0809/boxes/malbden1.o04 -- Brehm did indeed take 3 penalties (all lazy holding and hooking penalties) by about halfway through that game and I'm pretty sure he didn't take another shift after that 3rd penalty. No surprise we haven't seen him in a non-exhibition game.
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dggoddard
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Re: All things Denver XXVI: From Boonetown to Motown
Van Vooris just turned 17 last month so he still has time to grow. Bozak was 5'7" when he was 18 and ended up 6'1 when he arrived at DU three years later.
The most valuable commodity in college hockey these days are puck moving defensemen. Look at DU on Saturday night, goals by Wiercioch & Donovan moving through Tech's defense untouched.
In the modern era of college hockey, even strength goals have become a rarity and the reason why is that defenses are packed in and the goaltenders spread out in the butterfly all game long. A defenseman who can deliver a flat puck and/or skate through the neutral zone opens up all sorts of easy goals.
According to USHR this kid is an "excellent skater and puck handler with great mobility."
He is going to tear things up in the college game.
Van Vooris just turned 17 last month so he still has time to grow. Bozak was 5'7" when he was 18 and ended up 6'1 when he arrived at DU three years later.
The most valuable commodity in college hockey these days are puck moving defensemen. Look at DU on Saturday night, goals by Wiercioch & Donovan moving through Tech's defense untouched.
In the modern era of college hockey, even strength goals have become a rarity and the reason why is that defenses are packed in and the goaltenders spread out in the butterfly all game long. A defenseman who can deliver a flat puck and/or skate through the neutral zone opens up all sorts of easy goals.
According to USHR this kid is an "excellent skater and puck handler with great mobility."
He is going to tear things up in the college game.
du78
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Re: All things Denver XXVI: From Boonetown to Motown
Voorhis had a lot of big time schools after him including UND, BC, Vermont and Notre Dame.
Voorhis had a lot of big time schools after him including UND, BC, Vermont and Notre Dame.
Re: All things Denver XXVI: From Boonetown to Motown
Two things: Where did you find "killer?" and what about this -14 stat?
Two things: Where did you find "killer?" and what about this -14 stat?
du78
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Re: All things Denver XXVI: From Boonetown to Motown
Be careful with thoses stats. Those are only his stats in the USHL with the U-17 team, the youngest team in the league. It does not reflect any international or non-USHL games the U-17 team plays. The USHL teams typically have older 18 to 20 year old players. The U-18 team is also in the USHL and is significantly more successful.
Two things: Where did you find "killer?" and what about this -14 stat?
Be careful with thoses stats. Those are only his stats in the USHL with the U-17 team, the youngest team in the league. It does not reflect any international or non-USHL games the U-17 team plays. The USHL teams typically have older 18 to 20 year old players. The U-18 team is also in the USHL and is significantly more successful.
dggoddard
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Re: All things Denver XXVI: From Boonetown to Motown
This is the first year the USNDT-Under 17 have played in the USHL and its pretty obvious they are completely overmatched. That being said, playing against older players usually pays off down the road in hockey.
Killer is DU's recruiting coordinator Steve Miller's nickname.
Those aren't his complete stats. He's also played dozens of other games against US colleges and international games. He and his teammates are 16-17 years old or playing against 17-21 year olds in the USHL.Two things: Where did you find "killer?" and what about this -14 stat?
This is the first year the USNDT-Under 17 have played in the USHL and its pretty obvious they are completely overmatched. That being said, playing against older players usually pays off down the road in hockey.
Killer is DU's recruiting coordinator Steve Miller's nickname.
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Re: All things Denver XXVI: From Boonetown to Motown
Pretty stats are nice to look at, but those pretty stats are not necessarily part of the NTDP's objective. For reference, check this out: http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=67805
Pretty sure this guy was an above average player for us.
Also, pretty sure that this Van Vooris' stats at the same age in the same program are roughly equivalent (though +/- is not listed).
There is really nothing that should be concerning us right about now.
Two things: Where did you find "killer?" and what about this -14 stat?
Pretty stats are nice to look at, but those pretty stats are not necessarily part of the NTDP's objective. For reference, check this out: http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=67805
Pretty sure this guy was an above average player for us.
Also, pretty sure that this Van Vooris' stats at the same age in the same program are roughly equivalent (though +/- is not listed).
There is really nothing that should be concerning us right about now.
Puck Swami
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Re: All things Denver XXVI: From Boonetown to Motown
Our coaches' track record is pretty great in the recruiting dept.
Chances are if they've offered a scholie to a prospect, the kid is projected to be an elite college player.
Our coaches' track record is pretty great in the recruiting dept.
Chances are if they've offered a scholie to a prospect, the kid is projected to be an elite college player.
Re: All things Denver XXVI: From Boonetown to Motown
Ok, Ok, sorry, sorry, sorry!! I stand corrected. I'm just really focused on the +/- stat. I'm told it is one of the most important stats, but I can see that was only a glimpse of his career so far. Mybad!
Ok, Ok, sorry, sorry, sorry!! I stand corrected. I'm just really focused on the +/- stat. I'm told it is one of the most important stats, but I can see that was only a glimpse of his career so far. Mybad!
dggoddard
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Re: All things Denver XXVI: From Boonetown to Motown
The +/- stat is one of the least important stats when looking at recruits. These junior leagues (USHL, NAHL, BCHL & AJHL) have wide disparities in team talent and guys on a poor team can be -30 and it means nothing.
Case in point, Chris Knowlton was Captain of the Des Moines Buccaneers last season. He had 13 goals, 11 assists. Des Moines was 12-43-5 and had the 2nd worst record in the league. Knowlton was -21 on the season.
Knowlton is easily the biggest surprise on the Pioneer team this year.
Here's all you need to know about DU recruiting. Each season DU has three to six scholarships to hand out. These scholies are worth $200,000 and Gwoz and staff would rather eat glass than hand $200,000 over to some kid who can't play.
No big deal.
The +/- stat is one of the least important stats when looking at recruits. These junior leagues (USHL, NAHL, BCHL & AJHL) have wide disparities in team talent and guys on a poor team can be -30 and it means nothing.
Case in point, Chris Knowlton was Captain of the Des Moines Buccaneers last season. He had 13 goals, 11 assists. Des Moines was 12-43-5 and had the 2nd worst record in the league. Knowlton was -21 on the season.
Knowlton is easily the biggest surprise on the Pioneer team this year.
Here's all you need to know about DU recruiting. Each season DU has three to six scholarships to hand out. These scholies are worth $200,000 and Gwoz and staff would rather eat glass than hand $200,000 over to some kid who can't play.
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du78
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Re: All things Denver XXVI: From Boonetown to Motown
From Chambers blog today - Wrenn and Martin will play this weekend and Nutini will not. Gwoz will dress 7 D and 11 forwards again this weekend. He has been using the 7-11 "Slurpee" combination the last few weeks. He likes being able to rotate the 7 D as it keeps them fresher and he typically rolls 3 lines with the 4th line getting occasional shifts.
http://blogs.denverpost.com/sports/2010/02/24/du-injury-update-and-wcha-title-plans/
From Chambers blog today - Wrenn and Martin will play this weekend and Nutini will not. Gwoz will dress 7 D and 11 forwards again this weekend. He has been using the 7-11 "Slurpee" combination the last few weeks. He likes being able to rotate the 7 D as it keeps them fresher and he typically rolls 3 lines with the 4th line getting occasional shifts.
http://blogs.denverpost.com/sports/2010/02/24/du-injury-update-and-wcha-title-plans/
Re: All things Denver XXVI: From Boonetown to Motown
I like the 7 d-men. The truck (Ryder) gets to add to his hits.
I like the 7 d-men. The truck (Ryder) gets to add to his hits.
PioneerPhanatic
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Re: All things Denver XXVI: From Boonetown to Motown
Is it too early to nickname him the "Flying Dutchman"?
Is it too early to nickname him the "Flying Dutchman"?
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