Suze
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Re: Alaska Anchorage at Maine Oct. 24 and 25: Because Airline Miles are a thing
And the rumors were not unfounded, me thinks.
And the rumors were not unfounded, me thinks.
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Alaska Anchorage at Maine Oct. 24 and 25: Because Airline Miles are a thing
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walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: Alaska Anchorage at Maine Oct. 24 and 25: Because Airline Miles are a thing
UAA was totally outplayed tonight except in net, the refs had nothing to do with it. They were chippy from the get go, sticks up and could have been called for interference about ten more times then it was called.
UAA was totally outplayed tonight except in net, the refs had nothing to do with it. They were chippy from the get go, sticks up and could have been called for interference about ten more times then it was called.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Yup, lucky to get our with a tie. Mantha may be the real deal.
Re: Alaska Anchorage at Maine Oct. 24 and 25: Because Airline Miles are a thing
Mantha played very well. Morris played well also, but Mantha faced about twice as many shots. You guys had a chance to win with about 20- 30 seconds left in OT when Morris was out of position and your guy couldn't get a good shot off.
Mantha played very well. Morris played well also, but Mantha faced about twice as many shots. You guys had a chance to win with about 20- 30 seconds left in OT when Morris was out of position and your guy couldn't get a good shot off.
Ma#1ne Hky
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Re: Alaska Anchorage at Maine Oct. 24 and 25: Because Airline Miles are a thing
Mantha played great all weekend for UAA,he's cat quick and positions himself well...he looks to be a good fit in net for UAA...he can steal games with the way he played this weekend. Excellent showing on his part.
Mantha played great all weekend for UAA,he's cat quick and positions himself well...he looks to be a good fit in net for UAA...he can steal games with the way he played this weekend. Excellent showing on his part.
Maine Event
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Re: Alaska Anchorage at Maine Oct. 24 and 25: Because Airline Miles are a thing
Below are quotes from Coach Thomas on Cameron intentionally dislodging the net in OT reported on the Maine Hockey Journal website - http://mainehockeyjournal.com/?p=21323 :
“It’s a veteran play by our guy,” Alaska-Anchorage head coach Matt Thompson said of Cameron’s penalty.
“The call’s the call. I think it was the right call. Our guy intentionally knocked the net off its moorings. It’s good we were able to escape that.”
Just curious of any thoughts on this.
Below are quotes from Coach Thomas on Cameron intentionally dislodging the net in OT reported on the Maine Hockey Journal website - http://mainehockeyjournal.com/?p=21323 :
“It’s a veteran play by our guy,” Alaska-Anchorage head coach Matt Thompson said of Cameron’s penalty.
“The call’s the call. I think it was the right call. Our guy intentionally knocked the net off its moorings. It’s good we were able to escape that.”
Just curious of any thoughts on this.
Re: Alaska Anchorage at Maine Oct. 24 and 25: Because Airline Miles are a thing
. Beyond that the UAA move made me think we were playing BU , however they are much more polished at net disgorgement. 
Yeah, my thoughts are Byron should have scored on penalty shot
. Beyond that the UAA move made me think we were playing BU , however they are much more polished at net disgorgement.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: Alaska Anchorage at Maine Oct. 24 and 25: Because Airline Miles are a thing
Maine should have shot it before he dislodged it. It was a good play the way it turned out.
Maine should have shot it before he dislodged it. It was a good play the way it turned out.
Hoover
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Re: Alaska Anchorage at Maine Oct. 24 and 25: Because Airline Miles are a thing
I'll admit to not knowing all of the rules set by the NCAA, of which some are different than in the NHL (which I do have more knowledge of), but here's my take on last night's OT penalty shot for knocking the net off of it's moorings.
If the correct call was made by Quinn/Millea (not sure who made the call), then the quote from the Anchorage coach above would be reasonable thinking from my point of view. As a defending player, if I saw that (in my opinion, at game-speed, with only a split-second to make a decision) a goal would be scored (in OT) because my goaltender was out of position to make a save on an opponent that had a slam-dunk goal on or near his stick, I would knock the net off also. I would rather take the penalty shot call and allow my goaltender the chance to make the save and extend the game, rather than watch an open-net goal (again, in my opinion - deciding at game-speed with little time to mull it over) win the game for the opposition. I would make that decision every time. I know it's not the "right thing to do" in terms of playing honestly and with integrity, but this sort of thing happens often in sport. The Anchorage coach understood the decision of his player, and said so, and he also agreed with the call on the ice. BUT - if Maine had scored on the penalty shot to win the game, his reaction and quote after the game may have been different. As a player (and I've played for 40 years), I say the defender did the right thing for his team and was rewarded by the resulting missed penalty shot.
In the NHL, a goal can be awarded or a minor penalty given in this type of situation (see NHL rules below), but as I said, maybe the NCAA rules for this kind of infraction are different.
NHL Rule 63 – Delaying the Game
63.2 Minor Penalty
In the event that a goalpost is deliberately displaced by a
defending player, prior to the puck crossing the goal line between the
normal position of the goalposts, the Referee shall assess a minor
penalty for delaying the game if the attacking player has not yet taken
the shot or in the act of taking the shot at the open net (see 63.6).
63.6 Awarded Goal - In the event that the goal post is displaced, either
deliberately or accidentally, by a defending player, prior to the puck
crossing the goal line between the normal position of the goalposts,
the Referee may award a goal.
In order to award a goal in this situation, the goal post must have
been displaced by the actions of a defending player, the puck must
have been shot (or the player must be in the act of shooting) at the
goal prior to the goal post being displaced, and it must be determined
that the puck would have entered the net between the normal position
of the goal posts.
All I've said above is from what I heard listening to the game - I didn't see it - so if there's something I missed about this situation someone can (and I'm sure will) correct me on my understanding of what happened. I won't be offended if someone who was there can say more about it than I learned from listening...
I'll admit to not knowing all of the rules set by the NCAA, of which some are different than in the NHL (which I do have more knowledge of), but here's my take on last night's OT penalty shot for knocking the net off of it's moorings.
If the correct call was made by Quinn/Millea (not sure who made the call), then the quote from the Anchorage coach above would be reasonable thinking from my point of view. As a defending player, if I saw that (in my opinion, at game-speed, with only a split-second to make a decision) a goal would be scored (in OT) because my goaltender was out of position to make a save on an opponent that had a slam-dunk goal on or near his stick, I would knock the net off also. I would rather take the penalty shot call and allow my goaltender the chance to make the save and extend the game, rather than watch an open-net goal (again, in my opinion - deciding at game-speed with little time to mull it over) win the game for the opposition. I would make that decision every time. I know it's not the "right thing to do" in terms of playing honestly and with integrity, but this sort of thing happens often in sport. The Anchorage coach understood the decision of his player, and said so, and he also agreed with the call on the ice. BUT - if Maine had scored on the penalty shot to win the game, his reaction and quote after the game may have been different. As a player (and I've played for 40 years), I say the defender did the right thing for his team and was rewarded by the resulting missed penalty shot.
In the NHL, a goal can be awarded or a minor penalty given in this type of situation (see NHL rules below), but as I said, maybe the NCAA rules for this kind of infraction are different.
NHL Rule 63 – Delaying the Game
63.2 Minor Penalty
In the event that a goalpost is deliberately displaced by a
defending player, prior to the puck crossing the goal line between the
normal position of the goalposts, the Referee shall assess a minor
penalty for delaying the game if the attacking player has not yet taken
the shot or in the act of taking the shot at the open net (see 63.6).
63.6 Awarded Goal - In the event that the goal post is displaced, either
deliberately or accidentally, by a defending player, prior to the puck
crossing the goal line between the normal position of the goalposts,
the Referee may award a goal.
In order to award a goal in this situation, the goal post must have
been displaced by the actions of a defending player, the puck must
have been shot (or the player must be in the act of shooting) at the
goal prior to the goal post being displaced, and it must be determined
that the puck would have entered the net between the normal position
of the goal posts.
All I've said above is from what I heard listening to the game - I didn't see it - so if there's something I missed about this situation someone can (and I'm sure will) correct me on my understanding of what happened. I won't be offended if someone who was there can say more about it than I learned from listening...
Interesting. I am thinking both a penalty shot and a penalty would be the just punishment for deliberately taking the net off when your goalie is down and out.
Ma#1ne Hky
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Re: Alaska Anchorage at Maine Oct. 24 and 25: Because Airline Miles are a thing
The UAA player did the right move for his team,had it been Maine I would have expected the same play also...you play to win and pay the price if it does not come out your way...for UAA it saved them a loss.
Ma#1ne Hky
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Re: Alaska Anchorage at Maine Oct. 24 and 25: Because Airline Miles are a thing
One last question out there in UAA land...how did Olivier Mantha makes his way to UAA? Seeing he was from the Quebec region I would have figured he would have had the attention from teams from Hockey East & ECAC...was he recruited hard by other teams or did he just go under the rader...interested in knowing how he made his choice to go to UAA. I really like the way he plays,mind you it's just two games but a lot of times you can see he has the tools to be a very good goaltender and that would bode well for UAA.(IMO)
One last question out there in UAA land...how did Olivier Mantha makes his way to UAA? Seeing he was from the Quebec region I would have figured he would have had the attention from teams from Hockey East & ECAC...was he recruited hard by other teams or did he just go under the rader...interested in knowing how he made his choice to go to UAA. I really like the way he plays,mind you it's just two games but a lot of times you can see he has the tools to be a very good goaltender and that would bode well for UAA.(IMO)
Ma#1ne Hky
New member
Re: Alaska Anchorage at Maine Oct. 24 and 25: Because Airline Miles are a thing
Every Conference has there share of good & bad in that department...that's hockey...plain and simple. Its a lot better when you don't noticed them on the ice,but time and again you have it happen.
Re: Alaska Anchorage at Maine Oct. 24 and 25: Because Airline Miles are a thing
i believe in college you can elect to take a powerplay instead of the penalty shot iirc. I seem to recall a coach in a close game where they had a 1 goal lead late, take the pp because it gave them more of a chance to burn time off the clock...
i believe in college you can elect to take a powerplay instead of the penalty shot iirc. I seem to recall a coach in a close game where they had a 1 goal lead late, take the pp because it gave them more of a chance to burn time off the clock...
Re: Alaska Anchorage at Maine Oct. 24 and 25: Because Airline Miles are a thing
and here's the NCAA rule:
67.2 Net Dislodgement - A player, including the goalkeeper, shall not delay the
game by deliberately displacing a goal post from its normal position. The
referee shall stop play when a goal post has been displaced.
Note: If the non-offending team has an offensive opportunity and its defensive
goal cage has been displaced, play shall be allowed to continue until the scoring
chance is complete.
PENALTY—Minor. With less than two minutes remaining in regulation
time or any time during overtime, penalty shot/optional
minor. If this illegal act prevents an obvious and imminent
goal at any time during the game, a goal shall be awarded.
A player or goalkeeper shall not deliberately displace the goal post to
prevent a goal, regardless of when it happens during a game.
PENALTY—Penalty shot/optional minor. If this illegal act prevents an
obvious and imminent goal, a goal shall be awarded.
During the course of a breakaway, a player or goalkeeper shall not
deliberately displace the goal post, or deliberately remove the helmet and/
or face mask.
PENALTY—Penalty shot/optional minor. The shot shall be taken by the
player last in possession of the puck. If this illegal act prevents
an obvious and imminent goal, a goal shall be awarded.
Note: A player with a breakaway is a player in control of the puck, in the
neutral zone or attacking zone, without opposition between the player and the
opposing goal and with a reasonable scoring opportunity
and here's the NCAA rule:
67.2 Net Dislodgement - A player, including the goalkeeper, shall not delay the
game by deliberately displacing a goal post from its normal position. The
referee shall stop play when a goal post has been displaced.
Note: If the non-offending team has an offensive opportunity and its defensive
goal cage has been displaced, play shall be allowed to continue until the scoring
chance is complete.
PENALTY—Minor. With less than two minutes remaining in regulation
time or any time during overtime, penalty shot/optional
minor. If this illegal act prevents an obvious and imminent
goal at any time during the game, a goal shall be awarded.
A player or goalkeeper shall not deliberately displace the goal post to
prevent a goal, regardless of when it happens during a game.
PENALTY—Penalty shot/optional minor. If this illegal act prevents an
obvious and imminent goal, a goal shall be awarded.
During the course of a breakaway, a player or goalkeeper shall not
deliberately displace the goal post, or deliberately remove the helmet and/
or face mask.
PENALTY—Penalty shot/optional minor. The shot shall be taken by the
player last in possession of the puck. If this illegal act prevents
an obvious and imminent goal, a goal shall be awarded.
Note: A player with a breakaway is a player in control of the puck, in the
neutral zone or attacking zone, without opposition between the player and the
opposing goal and with a reasonable scoring opportunity
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Not sure who had the puck when net was dislodged but he was setting up a shot. He had it for a few secs and was moving across top of crease to get a shot. Tons of traffic in front though, goalie was off to side, 10 was clearly under cross bar and just stoop up
hockeytownak
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Guessing Josh Ciocco was a big part of it.
http://www.goseawolves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=58452&SPID=6373&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=13400&ATCLID=208837560&Q_SEASON=2014
Mantha played last year in the BCHL...UAA recruits heavily there. Ciocco's East coast connection helped seal the deal.
http://www.goseawolves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=58452&SPID=6373&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=13400&ATCLID=208837560&Q_SEASON=2014
Mantha played last year in the BCHL...UAA recruits heavily there. Ciocco's East coast connection helped seal the deal.
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Alaska Hockey
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Re: Alaska Anchorage at Maine Oct. 24 and 25: Because Airline Miles are a thing
My thoughts ...... You have to shoot to score, instead ........ he choked.Yeah, my thoughts are Byron should have scored on penalty shot
Re: Alaska Anchorage at Maine Oct. 24 and 25: Because Airline Miles are a thing
You obviously have him confused with a UHN player
You obviously have him confused with a UHN player
Alaska Hockey
Registered User
Re: Alaska Anchorage at Maine Oct. 24 and 25: Because Airline Miles are a thing
Keep it up and the Palin's will be in your front yard. ......... Better foil up and be ready.
You obviously have him confused with a UHN player
Keep it up and the Palin's will be in your front yard. ......... Better foil up and be ready.
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