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Acupuncture

Re: Acupuncture

FreshFish said:
It is almost as if WW and OP are talking about one group of practitioners, while you, Walrus and I have dealt with a completely separate group.
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I have tried to focus more on acupuncture but OP is correct in stating what chiropractors learn about in school and the "theory" that the field is based on. I think can function quite well as physical therapists but one has to acknowledge there are significant differences in training. He posted earlier in the thread outlining the different types of chiropractors. In fact, if you follow the legal battles between chiropractors and other chiropractors, and chiropractors and state regulations, you find these different factions often have significantly different views on their scope of practice. Here is decent article if anyone is interested. http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/chiropractic-scope-of-practice/

Like most DO's who match into non-DO residencies, some chiropractors drop a portion of what they learn during their education.

leswp1 said:
I still see the massage therapist every 2 weeks. Without it my neck is so screwed up I get HA so bad I am nauseous and incapacitated. It is all ergonomics. If I didn't have the GD EMR with the required laptop to deal with I would be fine. When I am on vacation I am asx.
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You will almost never find me arguing with a good massage therapist on efficacy of treatments. Bonus points for being non-invasive.
 
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WisconsinWildcard said:
You will almost never find me arguing with a good massage therapist on efficacy of treatments. Bonus points for being non-invasive.
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Non-invasive?? Clearly you've never had somebody jam a thumb or finger into some of the really fun and nasty to release muscles like Piriformis, Psoas Major, the Diaphragm, Serattus Anterior, or the really popular, the pterygoids. Some of that work can be pretty invasive. :p
 
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bigmrg74 said:
Non-invasive?? Clearly you've never had somebody jam a thumb or finger into some of the really fun and nasty to release muscles like Piriformis, Psoas Major, the Diaphragm, Serattus Anterior, or the really popular, the pterygoids. Some of that work can be pretty invasive. :p
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Saying this as someone who has had his share of surgical repairs and gets deep tissue massages on a regular basis: No, massages are not invasive. Not at all. Can they be painful? Yes, for a minute or so they can be painful and then good feelings set in with the loosening of the muscles. Spending two to six months recoving from a surgery, that's invasive and it's sometimes only the beginning for some of the procedures out there that other people experience.
 
Re: Acupuncture

bigmrg74 said:
Non-invasive?? Clearly you've never had somebody jam a thumb or finger into some of the really fun and nasty to release muscles like Piriformis, Psoas Major, the Diaphragm, Serattus Anterior, or the really popular, the pterygoids. Some of that work can be pretty invasive. :p
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I was speaking about the lack of breaking the skin, which always increased the risk for infection. Although, from what I hear, some massages can leave you with a different type of infection.... ;)
 
Re: Acupuncture

WisconsinWildcard said:
I was speaking about the lack of breaking the skin, which always increased the risk for infection. Although, from what I hear, some massages can leave you with a different type of infection.... ;)
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As a kid, when Dr. Pio would palpate an injury he would ask: "Does it hurt there?" "No." "Does it hurt there?" "No." Does it hurt there?" "No" "Then it must hurt RIGHT THERE!"
 
Re: Acupuncture

St. Clown said:
Saying this as someone who has had his share of surgical repairs and gets deep tissue massages on a regular basis: No, massages are not invasive. Not at all. Can they be painful? Yes, for a minute or so they can be painful and then good feelings set in with the loosening of the muscles. Spending two to six months recoving from a surgery, that's invasive and it's sometimes only the beginning for some of the procedures out there that other people experience.
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Wish I could have had you explain that to guy I had a couple of weeks ago with Sciatica. Apparently he thought that the idea of my thumbs all poking around his ischial tuberosity to relieve his symptoms was invasive to him. :rolleyes:
 
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WisconsinWildcard said:
I was speaking about the lack of breaking the skin, which always increased the risk for infection. Although, from what I hear, some massages can leave you with a different type of infection.... ;)
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Perhaps that is why the American Board of Dermatology was at one time called the American Board of Dermatology and Syphilology (until about 1955)??;)
 
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speaking from the massages I've had, I would never argue against them. felt good during and after. very very good. can't imagine that is a placebo effect, getting in there and getting out knots and kinks and helping the person to relax. but if it is placebo, I'll take it.
 
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