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#7 Vermont at #2 Univ.New Hampshire HE quarter final

Re: #7 Vermont at #2 Univ.New Hampshire HE quarter final

Depends on which UNH team shows up at the rink. That team from last Friday would have a hard time beating some public high school teams.

Amen to that.. and the team that played the first 2 2/3 games against UVM should be able to win at home, but if the team that played the last quarter+ of the last UNH/UVM game shows up, we'll be in for a long weekend.
 
Re: #7 Vermont at #2 Univ.New Hampshire HE quarter final

Amen to that.. and the team that played the first 2 2/3 games against UVM should be able to win at home, but if the team that played the last quarter+ of the last UNH/UVM game shows up, we'll be in for a long weekend.

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Re: #7 Vermont at #2 Univ.New Hampshire HE quarter final

the other Al Stewart hit? Was it Time Passges? I enjoy that album......sorry puckfan2001, but although we might bore you youngun's it's real important to know where this program came from and how proud most of us old-timers are to see what UNH has become....if you were a freshman, even with a scholarship, and you came into the locker room at Snively, you took a right turn.....a left turn meant you headed for the varsity side....which actually had carpet on the floor, but no baseboard heating...so skates were put on top of the lockers to dry out....taking a right meant you had the 2 foot wide rubber mat rolled out around the steel lockers, but no heating system in the room! Sometimes we had hot water for showers.....yea, we may have no NC but we have plenty of heart to have our program year in, year out in the national picture!
 
Re: #7 Vermont at #2 Univ.New Hampshire HE quarter final

the other Al Stewart hit? Was it Time Passges? I enjoy that album......sorry puckfan2001, but although we might bore you youngun's it's real important to know where this program came from and how proud most of us old-timers are to see what UNH has become....if you were a freshman, even with a scholarship, and you came into the locker room at Snively, you took a right turn.....a left turn meant you headed for the varsity side....which actually had carpet on the floor, but no baseboard heating...so skates were put on top of the lockers to dry out....taking a right meant you had the 2 foot wide rubber mat rolled out around the steel lockers, but no heating system in the room! Sometimes we had hot water for showers.....yea, we may have no NC but we have plenty of heart to have our program year in, year out in the national picture!
Fassinating! What coleur was de plates ovure de lite swiches? Let us no, eh?
 
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Yeah, that was a great time. It was before the days of the underage draft when players would stay at a school for four years to "get an education." At least they tried to present that perception. Now they don't even try to hide the fact that they're only there to play. In fact, one of the reasons why I believe that BU's program has declined relative to BC is that they "promote" that their players "get to the NHL." I believe there are something like five players from the 2009 team in the NHL right now. Three of them would still be at BU. Not an excuse...just reality. I'm not being judgmental, either. It is what it is. No continuity. BC gets players that are borderline NHLers (mostly because they go for the smaller forwards), but they form a cohesive unit and seem to cherish the whole team "concept." Just a difference in philosophy. And maybe it stems from the fact that in the 70s and 80s the Western teams would just beat us up. We didn't win from 1978 to 1995 and I think that's when the philosoph changed to "let's get some bigger, tougher players." BC stayed the course and went with the small, quick teams. As the game evolved and the rules changed to promote more skating and less holding and grabbing, it looks as though BC's gamble worked. But yes, we are spoiled. I'll be the first to admit. When you've won five National Championships, the expectations are higher, and it must be obnoxious to hear BU fans complain when you guys would give almost anything to win once. And it's harder now, because there are way more teams (of course, there are more good players also). But personally, as far as BU is concerned, I think they're going down the wrong road. I don't want to say that we were "lucky" (because you always need luck) to win, because that team in 2009 had GREAT leadership from within - but the reality is that we haven't really been competitive in almost twenty years. I would much rather watch BC and/or UNH. They "headman" the puck (as they used to say) - it reminds me of the old Canadiens with Cornoyer, Richard, LaFleur, etc who would just throw it ahead to open ice and watch their guys collect it. Man, was that fun to watch. Up and down the ice at breakneck speed. None of this trapping, "possession" game which puts me to sleep. But I'm getting off on a tangent, here. Anyway, I'm really looking forward to a BU/UNH matchup next weekend. And if we don't win, I'll be rooting for UNH to go all the way.

as i said, you should post more because this is a superb post............didn't mean to break into the conversation but had to comment
 
Re: #7 Vermont at #2 Univ.New Hampshire HE quarter final

yes Lumer did put a slapper off Mike Mastrullo's skate(Brown) in order for us to go onto the Garden ....of course, we believed it was the second arrow we shot into snively's celing, to counteract the one put there in 72, the last year UNH had gone to the Garden!
Had forgotten those arrows :D
 
Re: #7 Vermont at #2 Univ.New Hampshire HE quarter final

the other Al Stewart hit? Was it Time Passges? I enjoy that album......sorry puckfan2001, but although we might bore you youngun's it's real important to know where this program came from and how proud most of us old-timers are to see what UNH has become....if you were a freshman, even with a scholarship, and you came into the locker room at Snively, you took a right turn.....a left turn meant you headed for the varsity side....which actually had carpet on the floor, but no baseboard heating...so skates were put on top of the lockers to dry out....taking a right meant you had the 2 foot wide rubber mat rolled out around the steel lockers, but no heating system in the room! Sometimes we had hot water for showers.....yea, we may have no NC but we have plenty of heart to have our program year in, year out in the national picture!
And we loved ya'. Maybe you could tell that from those lines outside the building at 3 pm for a 7pm start. With open seating and bench seats.
 
Re: #7 Vermont at #2 Univ.New Hampshire HE quarter final

Sorry for the thread drift, unhpuckfan2001 and "Rabbit," but great posts, chickod and snively. Chickod, Snively arena was the absolute wildest whenever BU came to Durham in the late 60s and early 70s. We hardly ever won, but usually we gave the Terriers a great game. Based on fan crazyness, I thought that the BU rivalry was the most intense of all of our opponents. I still remember names like Herb Wakabayashi (sp?), Ron Anderson, Paul O'Neil, Bob Gryp, John Danby, Bob Brown, Steve Stirling, Tim Regan, Ed Walsh, and of course, BU's coach at that time, Jack Kelley. I do not think that our more recent rivalries with BC, Maine, and UVM compare, in part because the Whitt is simply not as noisy as Snively was, or Walter Brown for that matter. After games for some of those few years when the drinking age was 18, we would be in the Down Under Pub on Main Street until closing, along with some of our hockey players. Hmmm, hope that those were Saturday night games, and not Friday nights on a two-game weekend.
 
Re: #7 Vermont at #2 Univ.New Hampshire HE quarter final

Sorry for the thread drift, unhpuckfan2001 and "Rabbit," but great posts, chickod and snively. Chickod, Snively arena was the absolute wildest whenever BU came to Durham in the late 60s and early 70s. We hardly ever won, but usually we gave the Terriers a great game. Based on fan crazyness, I thought that the BU rivalry was the most intense of all of our opponents. I still remember names like Herb Wakabayashi (sp?), Ron Anderson, Paul O'Neil, Bob Gryp, John Danby, Bob Brown, Steve Stirling, Tim Regan, Ed Walsh, and of course, BU's coach at that time, Jack Kelley. I do not think that our more recent rivalries with BC, Maine, and UVM compare, in part because the Whitt is simply not as noisy as Snively was, or Walter Brown for that matter. After games for some of those few years when the drinking age was 18, we would be in the Down Under Pub on Main Street until closing, along with some of our hockey players. Hmmm, hope that those were Saturday night games, and not Friday nights on a two-game weekend.

I remember the BU rivalry as being intense as well. And what about lining up at the door at about 3 p.m. on game days? And not having a voice left after each and every one? Man, I do remember those days, but in more of a generic sense -- I wish I had the specific memories of Snively (i.e. Richard, not the arena -- I do remember the arena very well) and others here, but my decidedly limited brain capacity has tossed out a lot of those to make room for other, more recent events that I also can't remember. (Perhaps this thread should be renamed "Ahhh, Snively in the 70's... what good times they were. Pull up a chair, and we'll tell you all about them. Hey, where did everybody go?")

I must admit, I took UNH hockey MUCH more seriously than I took my coursework in those days.
 
Re: #7 Vermont at #2 Univ.New Hampshire HE quarter final

I must admit, I took UNH hockey MUCH more seriously than I took my coursework in those days.

is that not encouraged? i was really hoping there would be a use for all this college hockey nonsense i've crammed in my head...
 
Re: #7 Vermont at #2 Univ.New Hampshire HE quarter final

I just have to chime in here. One of the greatest nights of hockey I have ever been at was the old ECAC Tourney at the Gahden in '77. In the first game, UNH finally subdued Cornell with a (I think) Dave Lumley slap shot from just inside the blue line in the 2nd (or was it third?) overtime? I think maybe something like 40 seconds into the third. There was that Cornell guy who used to sit up in the first row of the balcony at every game (this is when we saw Cornell a lot, before the advent of Hockey East) and blow that air horn that was about six feet long. Then, in the "nightcap" (who knows how late it was when the 2nd game started), BU was trailing Clarkson (with Dave Taylor) 5-3 with less than five minutes to go, when they scored three straight goals (the last one by Dave Silk, I believe) to win, 6-5. Just incredible electricity in the building, and, of course, there was NOTHING like a raucous crowd at the old Gahden (I don't care what they say about TD that there's not as much noise because the fans don't have anything to cheer about - baloney - it's the building - I was in Matthews last Friday and the place was 1/3 full and louded than Agganis EVER is). The acoustics were terrible (or great, depending upon your point of view) and the noise was deafening!! UNH had thousands of fans there and the place just went beserk when they scored that goal. It still gives me chills thinking about it!
Man, so the whole "BU games being delayed by UNH games going to OT" has some history behind it. And here I thought it was a recent phenomenon!

I was four. :p
For all three years he's referencing? Just because you're held back, it doesn't mean you stay the same age. :p
 
Re: #7 Vermont at #2 Univ.New Hampshire HE quarter final

(Perhaps this thread should be renamed "Ahhh, Snively in the 70's... what good times they were. Pull up a chair, and we'll tell you all about them. Hey, where did everybody go?")
Fair enough. But it's not often you get posts from the players themselves, recalling both events and their thoughts during historic games.

I must admit, I took UNH hockey MUCH more seriously than I took my coursework in those days.
And your point would be? You graduated, didn't you? :D

Has anyone ever asked you your GPA? Is there a thread about it? :cool: :D
 
Re: #7 Vermont at #2 Univ.New Hampshire HE quarter final

After games for some of those few years when the drinking age was 18, we would be in the Down Under Pub on Main Street until closing, along with some of our hockey players. Hmmm, hope that those were Saturday night games, and not Friday nights on a two-game weekend.
For what it's worth, I also remember seeing Jerry York with a mess of Bowling Green players in the Tin Palace before he moved on to Boston College ;)
 
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I read the last few pages of this thread and, although it has drifted away from the matter at hand, it is compelling reading for us old folks. I'll start out by saying that I've been a college hockey fan since I was in high school more (actually way more) than 40 years ago. Two guys in my class played D1 (BU and Harvard), coming from a public school in Lynn. Nowadays Lynn can't find 25 skaters in the whole city who want to play for a public school. But I digress. Coming from Lynn, I was always a BU fan and, to a lesser extent Harvard. Northeastern was not on the radar and BC was anathema thanks to my dad, who graduated from BU. Went to the Beanpots and the occasional game at the Arena. I thought I knew college hockey and what it is all about until I got to Durham. My first game at Snively was also the first date with my now wife. We saw UNH smother Army something like 15-5, with John Gray scoring five goals. Crowd was going crazy and I was hooked. And still am.

To some points. Not sure of Guy Smith's heritage, but he was listed as from Ottawa and, as everybody knows, was Jay Silverheel's (Tonto) nephew. Guy was the humblest of guys. Back then he was what we now call a chick magnet. Real handsome guy, a real slow talker, and pretty intelligent (was a Vetinarian). His death back in the '90's was pretty tragic. Louis Frigon, from Montreal, was never one of my favorites (no hustle, I liked Umile), but I know Charlie loved him, even though he didn't recruit him. Louis did have the shot, for sure. But the defensive side of the ice was foreign territory.

I could go on and on I suppose. Zoof, I find it ironic that the guys on the ice after the Cornell win in '77 were thinking the same as those of us in the stands . . . going to the NCAA's. We hung around for most of the Clarkson-BU game, but left to go to Chinatown after Clarkson went up by 3 goals. We were sitting in traffic on Beach St. when one guy yelled "BU won." I thought the next night UNH just ran out of gas in the third. Can you imagine scoring 15 goals in two games and not winning the championship. But that's what happened. On to Detroit where I will point out that the winning goal in the '77 NCAA semis was scored by Mike Eaves, not Mark Evans (former UNH goalie who was the starter in 1978). Eaves of course is the father of Patrick and Ben and is the head coach of Wisconsin, rumored to be going to the NHL I read somewhere. That game, that weekend, was beyond belief. I am sure Zoof can attest. I hope he remembers the post game party at the Dearborn Hyatt. It was like the last days of the Roman Empire.

Enough of this. How about a nice round table discussion at some point. Either this weekend or next. Reminiscing is good but not at the expense of focusing on this weekends games. As I've said a couple of times, this weekend is all about UNH. They are better in every phase of the game and have the record to prove it. If they lose to Vermont, shame on them, especially after what happened last year. My good friend Tom said at the beginning of the season, "how about we make it to the Garden." Good thought. And makes me think of the mid-70's when we had the five year drought. Go Cats!
 
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I'm honestly looking forward to a couple of W's this weekend, there's nothing mean-spirited when we're playing UVM, so we're not getting flamewars as we'd be if we were playing BC.
My $0.02 about Snively Arena: we had smoking areas, I believe, the food was atrocious, smelly bathrooms, from what I remember. I do remember Dr. Giles Threadgold, my favorite referee, was it Billy Noble, the defenseman who'd line up a guy eighty feet away to hip-check him. Guy Smith, Bobby Brandt, Dick Umile, I saw them all. Probably the best was Bobby Miller. As a freshman he just shone on the ice, so smooth and talented. Those were the ECAC days, when UNH was just starting to make it into the big time, when it was our Canadiens are better than your Canadiens. Those were good times, leading up to the success the program has now. How could I forget Louis Frigon? Legend has it he scored a hat trick, and, as result, he didn't have to pass in his Parks and Recreation project.
 
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Fair enough. But it's not often you get posts from the players themselves, recalling both events and their thoughts during historic games.

:D

:cool:

I had a chance to meet Bob Miller during a Bruins alum game a few weeks ago (along with Bruce Crowder, not to mention a slew of former Bruins who never played for UNH -- Terry O'Reilly, Middleton, etc.) That was pretty cool -- Bob was one of my favorite UNH players back then. Too bad (for us at least) that he left the program so early.

And your point would be? You graduated, didn't you? Has anyone ever asked you your GPA? Is there a thread about it? :cool: :D
:eek:

It wouldn't have gotten me into Harvard for post-grad work, that's for sure! ;)
 
Re: #7 Vermont at #2 Univ.New Hampshire HE quarter final

I'm honestly looking forward to a couple of W's this weekend, there's nothing mean-spirited when we're playing UVM, so we're not getting flamewars as we'd be if we were playing BC.
My $0.02 about Snively Arena: we had smoking areas, I believe, the food was atrocious, smelly bathrooms, from what I remember. I do remember Dr. Giles Threadgold, my favorite referee, was it Billy Noble, the defenseman who'd line up a guy eighty feet away to hip-check him. Guy Smith, Bobby Brandt, Dick Umile, I saw them all. Probably the best was Bobby Miller. As a freshman he just shone on the ice, so smooth and talented. Those were the ECAC days, when UNH was just starting to make it into the big time, when it was our Canadiens are better than your Canadiens. Those were good times, leading up to the success the program has now. How could I forget Louis Frigon? Legend has it he scored a hat trick, and, as result, he didn't have to pass in his Parks and Recreation project.

Bill, do you remember watching the '76 Winter Olympics (Bobby played for the US team) and hearing that he was involved in some kind of a bar brawl over there in Austria, and (I believe) was arrested?
 
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