3/1 Regional Rankings are up...

[spwood]

East      
                              Region Record  Overall Record 
1.Oswego State                    21-4     22-4 
2. Elmira                               16-6-4  16-6-4 
3.Plattsburgh State                18-7-1  19-7-1 
4. Norwich                            16-5-3  18-5-3 
5. Castleton                          20-3-1  22-3-1 
6. Neumann                          14-7-5  14-7-5 
7. Utica                                15-8-1  17-8-1 
8. SUNY Geneseo                   13-7-2  16-8-2 
9. Bowdoin                            13-7-1  16-7-1 
10. Hobart                            13-10-2  14-10-2 
11. Salem State                     15-6-2  17-6-2 
12. Williams                            14-7-2  15-7-3 
13. Hamilton                           12-7-4  14-7-4 
14. Massachusetts-Dartmouth   16-6-1  18-6-1 
15.Colby                                 11-9-2  12-10-2 
West      
 West Region  Region Record  Overall Record 
 St. Norbert  21-4-1  21-4-1 
 Adrian  19-2-1  21-3-1 
 Hamline  15-5-5  15-6-5 
 Wisconsin-Superior  16-11-1  16-11-1 
 Wisconsin-Stout  16-11  16-11 
 Milwaukee School of Engineering  21-5-1  21-5-1 
 Gustavus Adolphus  15-10-2  15-10-2

Sorry about the formatting...someone with more time will clean this up I'm sure...

 

[joecct]

Re: 3/1 Regional Rankings are up...

But if you look @ the support chart, the record vs. ranked teams does not compute.

One example - but if one is off, it throws the whole table in doubt...
Fitchburg St. Listed as 2-2-0 on RvRO but they were 1-2-0 vs. Salem St and Mass-Dartmouth which would make it 2-4-0.

 

[LakerFan99]

Re: 3/1 Regional Rankings are up...

Weird, because this is what I see when I go to the site:



EDIT: Looks fixed now. Must have been a strange glitch.

 

[XYZ]

Re: 3/1 Regional Rankings are up...

What's with the tie for 15th in the East?

 

[LakerFan99]

Re: 3/1 Regional Rankings are up...

What's with the tie for 15th in the East?

It's not really a tie. If you go to the site and look at the rankings, the formatting is messed up. The ranking and teams are on different lines. So shift all of the teams up one line and that's where they should be.

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/icehockey-men/d3/regional_rankings_

 

[XYZ]

Re: 3/1 Regional Rankings are up...

It's not really a tie. If you go to the site and look at the rankings, the formatting is messed up. The ranking and teams are on different lines. So shift all of the teams up one line and that's where they should be.

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/icehockey-men/d3/regional_rankings_

My bad. I see that now. Nonetheless, it's interesting to see 11-9-2 Colby ranked over a team or two that club it in a comparison. Then again, it does add a ranked win for Norwich and a ranked loss for Castleton.

    Colby vs Manhattanville
WIN      0.5455  0           0.5800  1
SOS      0.4992  0           0.5449  1
H2H     0- 0- 0  0          0- 0- 0  0
COP     3- 1- 0  0          3- 0- 1  1
RNK     0- 0- 0  0          0- 0- 0  0
============================================
PTS              0                   3

/grenade toss

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

Re: 3/1 Regional Rankings are up...

My bad. I see that now. Nonetheless, it's interesting to see 11-9-2 Colby ranked over a team or two that club it in a comparison. Then again, it does add a ranked win for Norwich and a ranked loss for Castleton.

    Colby vs Manhattanville
WIN      0.5455  0           0.5800  1
SOS      0.4992  0           0.5449  1
H2H     0- 0- 0  0          0- 0- 0  0
COP     3- 1- 0  0          3- 0- 1  1
RNK     0- 0- 0  0          0- 0- 0  0
============================================
PTS              0                   3

/grenade toss

As well as taking away a ranked loss too for Norwich...

 

[XYZ]

Re: 3/1 Regional Rankings are up...

As well as taking away a ranked loss too for Norwich...

Maybe. Depends if the once-ranked-always-ranked is back in play or not. I haven't bothered to fully check on that...yet...but has anyone confirmed that one either way?

 

[Matt Rennell]

Re: 3/1 Regional Rankings are up...

Maybe. Depends if the once-ranked-always-ranked is back in play or not. I haven't bothered to fully check on that...yet...but has anyone confirmed that one either way?

It's in the NCAA Handbook that it's once ranked always ranked. It was not in the handbook last year. Therefore, I have no reason to believe the handbook is incorrect. That said, I have no heard from anyone involved whether it's true or not. Based on the handbook I have to assume it is back, why else would it be in there?

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

Re: 3/1 Regional Rankings are up...

It's in the NCAA Handbook that it's once ranked always ranked. It was not in the handbook last year. Therefore, I have no reason to believe the handbook is incorrect. That said, I have no heard from anyone involved whether it's true or not. Based on the handbook I have to assume it is back, why else would it be in there?

I'm not saying it is or it isn't being followed. But, if it was being followed, wouldn't it make sense if they listed all the teams that have been ranked before in the poll the following week? (Even if they may have dropped out of the top 15 for the East)

 

[UCBadger]

Re: 3/1 Regional Rankings are up...

I'm not saying it is or it isn't being followed. But, if it was being followed, wouldn't it make sense if they listed all the teams that have been ranked before in the poll the following week? (Even if they may have dropped out of the top 15 for the East)

 

[NUProf]

Re: 3/1 Regional Rankings are up...

I'm not saying it is or it isn't being followed. But, if it was being followed, wouldn't it make sense if they listed all the teams that have been ranked before in the poll the following week? (Even if they may have dropped out of the top 15 for the East)

Because they are the NCAA

It never made sense to me not to use once ranked always ranked, because if you played a ranked you had already beaten knocked them out of the ratings you hurt your profile with that win. (Of course losing to them hurt you too - basically having them on your playoff schedule hurt you)

 

[NUProf]

Re: 3/1 Regional Rankings are up...

Maybe. Depends if the once-ranked-always-ranked is back in play or not. I haven't bothered to fully check on that...yet...but has anyone confirmed that one either way?

By the NCAA data Norwich still has 4 ranked losses (Platts X 2, Castleton, and Manhattanville), so I'd guess it is

 

[joecct]

Re: 3/1 Regional Rankings are up...

Some of you have complained about my comparisons of RvRO for Salem against other schools because SSU while having an RvRO of 2-1-0 was a great percentage, it paled against other school's quantity.

Well, with the inclusion of UMD and Colby in the rankings, Salem now has a 5-2-0 RVRO. Are 7 games enough??

Sadly, no. But I am wondering what they are burning to cause the smoke in the room. If it was on the eastern side of the Lake, there would be no doubt. On the western side, I'm not so sure.

 

[NUProf]

Re: 3/1 Regional Rankings are up...

Some of you have complained about my comparisons of RvRO for Salem against other schools because SSU while having an RvRO of 2-1-0 was a great percentage, it paled against other school's quantity.

Well, with the inclusion of UMD and Colby in the rankings, Salem now has a 5-2-0 RVRO. Are 7 games enough??

Sadly, no. But I am wondering what they are burning to cause the smoke in the room. If it was on the eastern side of the Lake, there would be no doubt. On the western side, I'm not so sure.

It's all a secret...shhhh...