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2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line

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burd said:
Somebody care to share what the Tea Party's national platform is?
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1. Abolish the federal income tax and borrow more money from China

2. Eliminate Socialist Security for everyone under the age of 55 (it's not socialism when they preserve it for themselves)

3. Repeal Obamacare (but keep your hands off my Medicare!)


I'd say that's a start. :)
 
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Kepler said:
I've been telling my GOP friends for a while that while Citizens United and McCutcheon look great for them now, just wait until the Clintons start using their rolodex. There is so much big lobbying money lurking behind Hillary, Adelson and the Koch Bros will look like the Little Sisters of the Poor by comparison.

Just another reason to drive a stake through her heart before she ever gets started.
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Go Hillary Kep! Get on board the bus before it runs you over. :p
 
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burd said:
Somebody care to share what the Tea Party's national platform is?
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I don't think there actually exists a national Tea Party, per se. Some of them are all about carrying guns into Target stores, some of them just want to repeal Obamacare, some of them are Occupy Wall Street types. The "Tea Party" label, IMO is more about opposing federal control as a general principle than an actual organized national party. But "Tea Party Candidate" has become such a handy label covering all such types that a lot of people might think it's a Party.
related: "The fundamental idea is to allow states and local governments to let their freak flags fly."
 
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goldy_331 said:
http://www.teaparty-platform.com/

Google is sooo challenging to use.
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goldy, I'm sure you knew this but for the benefit of the questioner this link is to one person's or group's conception of what the "national Tea Party Platform" should or would be, if it existed. There are a hundred sites like this one trying to steer that conversation. But it's not (yet?) a political party, so none of the "Platforms" have ever been adopted by one. This is a sales pitch put together by persons unknown.
 
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Rover said:
Go Hillary Kep! Get on board the bus before it runs you over. :p
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I'm with Bernie.

Hillary will be Dubya's third term: tax breaks for her rich friends and bombs for whoever AIPAC sniffs at. No thanks. This is a one-time only offer for the GOP to come up with something better. They will, of course, fail spectacularly.
 
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Kepler said:
I'm with Bernie.

Hillary will be Dubya's third term: tax breaks for her rich friends and bombs for whoever AIPAC sniffs at. No thanks. This is a one-time only offer for the GOP to come up with something better. They will, of course, fail spectacularly.
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When did you start channelling Flaggy? "Bernie" would get his a ss handed to him in the general election against some C list Republican (Cruz, Paul) and then you'd be out here lamenting that we just elected another Dubya anyway. At face value your statement is a regurgitation of Little Ralphie Nader's logic, and anybody who thinks Gore would have 1) launched the Iraq War, and 2) passed tax cuts for GOP campaign contributors is a fvking idiot. Hillary vs Paul/Cruz/Romney/Christie is a BIG difference in the direction of this country no matter which side you'd prefer to see win that election.
 
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Rover said:
When did you start channelling Flaggy? "Bernie" would get his a ss handed to him in the general election against some C list Republican (Cruz, Paul) and then you'd be out here lamenting that we just elected another Dubya anyway. At face value your statement is a regurgitation of Little Ralphie Nader's logic, and anybody who thinks Gore would have 1) launched the Iraq War, and 2) passed tax cuts for GOP campaign contributors is a fvking idiot. Hillary vs Paul/Cruz/Romney/Christie is a BIG difference in the direction of this country no matter which side you'd prefer to see win that election.
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Not at all. I am specifically bemoaning the fact that come the general the GOP candidate will be such a whackadoodle that I'll pull the lever for the worst conceivable Democratic nominee in my lifetime. I lived through 2000-08 and won't ever pull a Nader Head In The Sand. But it burns that Crony Incorporated is going to be the head of the ticket next time. At least with Bams we didn't figure out until after his election that he was the same old problem.
 
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Kepler said:
Not at all. I am specifically bemoaning the fact that come the general the GOP candidate will be such a whackadoodle that I'll pull the lever for the worst conceivable Democratic nominee in my lifetime. I lived through 2000-08 and won't ever pull a Nader Head In The Sand. But it burns that Crony Incorporated is going to be the head of the ticket next time. At least with Bams we didn't figure out until after his election that he was the same old problem.
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Yeah, I just don't agree with the "they're all the same" schtick. Wallace may have invented it when he ran in '68, but since then its just trite.
 
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Rover said:
Yeah, I just don't agree with the "they're all the same" schtick. Wallace may have invented it when he ran in '68, but since then its just trite.
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I never said "they're all the same" (and I think "not a dime's worth of difference" goes back way before Wallace). I said she sucks. The GOP is 99.9% certain to suck far worse. 2016 is going to be choosing between crony capitalism and white supremacist theocracy, so yes, of course, I'll vote for crony capitalism. Toe rot is better than cancer.

But it's still toe rot.
 
Kepler said:
I never said "they're all the same" (and I think "not a dime's worth of difference" goes back way before Wallace). I said she sucks. The GOP is 99.9% certain to suck far worse. 2016 is going to be choosing between crony capitalism and white supremacist theocracy, so yes, of course, I'll vote for crony capitalism. Toe rot is better than cancer.

But it's still toe rot.
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So they'd be like gang green?
 
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Kepler said:
I never said "they're all the same" (and I think "not a dime's worth of difference" goes back way before Wallace). I said she sucks. The GOP is 99.9% certain to suck far worse. 2016 is going to be choosing between crony capitalism and white supremacist theocracy, so yes, of course, I'll vote for crony capitalism. Toe rot is better than cancer.

But it's still toe rot.
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"Don't compare me to The Almighty. Compare me to the opposition." - Pierre Trudeau.

Lighten up Francis. Its odd for a person to get depressed about an election that won't take place for 2 1/2 years. :rolleyes:
 
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Every once in a while, dude still reminds us why he was worth a shot.

Again, a little inside knowledge because of living in the WMA and living with somebody who has Hill stories that will curl your hair: the breakdown of the GOP guys who you see tub thumping about climate change in the well is about 50/50. Half of them are just like you and I -- they understand it's real and it's going to be a helluva bill when it arrives. They're just cynical and they feed their constituents' insecurity because it furthers their careers. But half of them are serious as a heart attack that Science is in the tank for liberals. Those folks come from a whackadoodle fundy background and they really, really truly think that bad things happen because we turn our back on the thunder god and if we would just burn all the science books and go back to the Iron Age everything would be all right.

The cynics we can deal with -- they're just John Edwards or Bill Clinton with a different letter after their name. They are the Lee Atwaters of the world who looked at the field, saw their path to the top was maximized by arbitrarily choosing the Snake Handler party because that's what sells in their district, and took it from there. God knows there are plenty on the other side of the aisle who did the same thing.

But the True Believers are really dangerous. They're the idiots who get people killed. And since there is now a highly lucrative home schooling industry to keep their children and grandchildren just as ignorant as they are, and an Echo Chamber to prevent them from ever hearing any real facts, they're going to be with us for a long time.

Maybe someday a serviceable Alcubierre drive ship can take them off to their Eden. It actually doesn't have to be functional; they only have to believe it is. In space, no one can hear you derp.
 
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Rover said:
"Don't compare me to The Almighty. Compare me to the opposition." - Pierre Trudeau.

Lighten up Francis. Its odd for a person to get depressed about an election that won't take place for 2 1/2 years. :rolleyes:
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Comparing the smell of chicken shiit to pig shiit does not in any way diminish the nausea produced by either.
 
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