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2nd Term Part VII: You May Like Your Doctor But You Can't Keep Her

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They made a donation to a tax policy PAC. The HRC goes after them for being anti-gay for making a donation to that PAC. Explicitly calling Target anti-gay and calling for a boycott. When's the last time you heard of a conservative group calling for a ban against a corporation for a political contribution it made? What are the chances that Target makes many (any) donations in the future? This is an example of a group getting up to shout down another and making an attempt to shame them. I can't remember the last time I saw a situation like this in reverse.

Oh b.s. conservatives boycott things like movies, music, and tv shows all the time. There's an entire industry built on avoiding the "librul MSM"

This whole argument started with conservatives threatening to boycott guns and ammo because of a lone editorial.
 
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Target didn't have to cave. They chose to.

Special interests use leverage in many forms. Conservatives with lots of money buy the results they want. Groups with less wealth use the leverage that they can.

Seriously, there's a term called "primarried" now.

Naive much?


Republicans need to stay away from the anti gay agenda. It's a loser. Society is going the opposite direction and it ain't coming back.

You're right. But some people sincerely believe that lifestyle is prohibited by their religion. Tens of millions of them. Should any or all of them be punished for expressing their beliefs? Even conservative Christians have rights.

Even Bob Cratchit's Christmas goose wasn't stuffed with as much crap as you bring to the party. Evil conservatives with their money. Poor little liberals. All they've got is George Soros, Warren Buffet, Hollywood, academia, much of "journalism" and the unions. You remember unions, don't you? Like the hack union doctors in WI passing out phony "medical excuses" for other union hacks to occupy the capitol and shut down the legislature. Them's your people, bub.
 
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Shhhhh!!!!

Opie's working this out. Don't worry, he'll have an explanation.

Assuming of course that the "Gay Gestapo" doesn't break down his door first, him being an enemy of the Gay State and all. We're on the way. Wait... er, I mean They're on the way!

A&E discussed what to do about the Phil Robertson "problem" with GLAAD. You think they consulted any religious groups? Ultimately, of course, they consulted with their account executives, who wised them up about the huge financial hit they were about to take.
 
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Oh b.s. conservatives boycott things like movies, music, and tv shows all the time. There's an entire industry built on avoiding the "librul MSM"

This whole argument started with conservatives threatening to boycott guns and ammo because of a lone editorial.

But nasty old conservatives don't have a fetish about lecturing the rest of us how "open minded" they are, do they? Oh, leftys are open minded all right. On some things. But on many other things they're as closed minded and reactionary as any member of the Tupelo chamber of commerce. But you and the rest of the leftys simply can't admit that you can be as opposed to some "free speech" as any right wing reactionary. In Lefty World, your bigotry and prejudices, aren't either.
 
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They made a donation to a tax policy PAC. The HRC goes after them for being anti-gay for making a donation to that PAC. Explicitly calling Target anti-gay and calling for a boycott. When's the last time you heard of a conservative group calling for a ban against a corporation for a political contribution it made? What are the chances that Target makes many (any) donations in the future? This is an example of a group getting up to shout down another and making an attempt to shame them. I can't remember the last time I saw a situation like this in reverse.

I wish some (but by no means all) conservative groups were as ruthless and effective as the Gay Gestapo. Although in the Phil Robertson case, it appears that may have (you should pardon the expression) bitten off more than they could chew.
 
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But nasty old conservatives don't have a fetish about lecturing the rest of us how "open minded" they are, do they?


No. Nasty old (and young) conservatives wear flags and crosses on their lapels and pretend to represent God.

Me thinks that God would like some new spokespeople.


I'll take open minded - which I am - over clutching my bible while wrapped in a flag and waiting for the white world as we know it to end.
 
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Actually, I was.

I really don't participate in social media or online forums, beyond this forum, siouxsports (on a limited basis) and one other. Not surprisingly I find all three to have similar traits. Someone expresses a view. It may be unpopular, or at least unpopular with an active group of "regulars" on the forum, and the typical response is non-stop heapings of public scorn on the poster, often to a point where anything the poster writes is met with mockery.

Fortunately, or maybe unfortunately, the targeted posters have not been me. Not because I write only mainstream opinions or the power of my words makes them immune to criticism. I'm just not a real active poster in any of those forums.

But I've seen those targeted posters post less and less, or sometimes disappear altogether from the forum, and I've often thought that if I were them, I'd have been gone a lot sooner.

That's a loss for everyone.

Take for example Bob Gray. I don't mean to single out Bob, for he's not alone. But certainly you and other regular posters on this forum are quick to respond to pretty much anything he posts with jeers, mockery and the like. And for what purpose.

You are not officially blocking his freedom of speech. But you are intentionally or unintentionally stifling it by trying to turn him into a social outcast through his words.

If the "Bob's" of the world are saying things you think most people would find unbelievable, silly or just plain wrong, do you think you're the only one intelligent enough to see that? Do you not trust others to reason their way through his posts and reach that conclusion for themselves?

Must we always try to squelch their thoughts through teasing, mockery, verbal or written abuse and the like? If I were one of the "Bob Grays" of the internet forum world, I'd say the heck with it and spend my time reading a book. And that's unfortunate, because whether you always agree with, or disagree with their points of view, it benefits you to have them express it. Because candidly Priceless, if it's just you posting on this board, and not the "Bob Grays", I'm not going to spend my time reading it either.

I don't spend nearly the time on this forum I used to, largely because the level of discussion has decayed significantly and the more radical posters seem to stick around while the more reasonable and tolerant and interesting posters leave or at least are inactive (Kepler is a good example in my book). I come on here on occasion when I have a few minutes, but for the most part I don't waste my time anymore and sometimes I won't be on here for weeks at a time. Nothing on here bothers me much (apart from, for example, unofan taking issue with my wife, for which he won a rare but permanent spot on ignore), as I know it's just the same rantings of some people who want to pick fights online and can't conduct themselves decently. And I'd note I don't put a poster like Rover in that category. Rover tries to pull my chain, but it's clear that it's in fun and not personally attacking anyone and not with the nasty streak of someone like Gurth or Scooby who it's hard not to picture sitting there glaring at their computer screen all day and pounding their keyboard whenever someone says something that doesn't match their views. Of course, I'm sure they're measured and reasonable and nice in person. It's easy to scream at someone online that you'll never have to see face to face.

Oh, and yah, reading a book is an excellent and preferred way to spend time, though I'm sure Gurth will nag me about what books I do or do not read.
 
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No. Nasty old (and young) conservatives wear flags and crosses on their lapels and pretend to represent God.

Me thinks that God would like some new spokespeople.


I'll take open minded - which I am - over clutching my bible while wrapped in a flag and waiting for the white world as we know it to end.
I'm resisting saying more than the fact that you seem to be quite deluded about yourself and other things.
 
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Feeling the love out here from the right and the left! Good stuff. I agree its all in good fun out here. We all care about the country but just have different solutions for getting it to where it needs to be. :)

PS - Apparently I've been positive repping some of you too often because I keep getting the "you must spread around" message. :confused:
 
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As compared to this one I got a couple days ago: "Well then how about you get chilled and shut the **** up?" Yup, free speech lovers.
 
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(apart from, for example, unofan taking issue with my wife, for which he won a rare but permanent spot on ignore)

For the record, the comment that got me on your ignore list was when I said, sarcastically, that you should just go ahead and marry Jan Brewer since you clearly have a thing for her. I never once mentioned your wife, let alone took issue with her. I'm sure she's a lovely woman if she can put up with you.

Not that you generally rely on facts anyway if they get in the way of your perceived reality.
 
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I'm resisting saying more than the fact that you seem to be quite deluded about yourself and other things.


Have at it. Show me where I'm wrong.

I'm quite confident in my beliefs where it comes to tolerance.
 
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As compared to this one I got a couple days ago: "Well then how about you get chilled and shut the **** up?" Yup, free speech lovers.

Have at it. Show me where I'm wrong.

I'm quite confident in my beliefs where it comes to tolerance.

I'm generally intolerant of intolerance. Occasionally I realize that my being intolerant of what I perceive to be intolerance is a form of intolerance in itself, and I get stuck in a spiral of self-loathing until somebody hits the reset button and I escape from the loop. Then I go back to my default of thinking most everybody (myself included) is full of shiat most of the time, but it can be pretty entertaining, so I just sit back and enjoy the show.
 
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For the record, the comment that got me on your ignore list was when I said, sarcastically, that you should just go ahead and marry Jan Brewer since you clearly have a thing for her. I never once mentioned your wife, let alone took issue with her. I'm sure she's a lovely woman if she can put up with you.

Not that you generally rely on facts anyway if they get in the way of your perceived reality.

Facts have a liberal bias.
 
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Facts have a liberal bias.

Just to note, since your quote causes me to see what unofan posted. He did mention my wife a number of times. I asked another poster not to joke about me in a certain way that would be offensive to my wife (which the other poster said was fine and hasn't done since, kudos to them). But unofan wouldn't let it go and said his wife would have no problem with such joking and made fun of my wife for having such sensitivities. It was bush league at the time and it's bush league that he avoids admitting to it now.

I don't put someone on ignore very often. Heck, Gurth isn't on ignore! But person attacks of that sort win a quick trip to ignore.
 
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So are all the lefties giddy about Obama's nomination of Debo Adegbile, noted apologist for and defender of a cop killer, to head up the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ?
 
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So are all the lefties giddy about Obama's nomination of Debo Adegbile, noted apologist for and defender of a cop killer, to head up the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ?

Maybe we would be if we knew what the f%^k you were talking about. Do you research this stuff yourself or did Rush cover it on his show today? Either way, I think its time for you to pursue a hobby of some sort...
 
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Maybe we would be if we knew what the f%^k you were talking about. Do you research this stuff yourself or did Rush cover it on his show today? Either way, I think its time for you to pursue a hobby of some sort...

Jeeze, I guess I shouldn't read the news, eh? http://www.usatoday.com/story/theov...ile-sesame-street-justice-department/4343875/

I just don't happen to think the Sesame Street gig is as important as his defense of Mumia, though you may disagree.
 
made fun of my wife for having such sensitivities.

No, I didn't. The archived posts show i didn't. I was making fun of your reaction to a joke about jan brewer being your girlfriend. I never once commented on your wife, only what you were saying. I will post the entire conversation from home tonight if you want proof. It's all there in the "The Power of SCOTUS III" thread begining at post 899.

Where I was mistaken is that I didn't even make the original post. Rover did.
 
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