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2nd Term Part VII: You May Like Your Doctor But You Can't Keep Her

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joecct said:
But religion cannot be excluded from the public square. It often acts as our moral compass.
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While I agree 'Christian' ethics (in terms of all of us being on the same team) should be part of our society...formal religion shouldn't be part of our government. This is in large part there's too much disagreement on doctrine (from Judaism to Christianity to Islam). Heck if Christian Lutherans and Christian Baptists can't get along...
 
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Priceless said:
Sure it does. Without religion we'd all be killing and raping each other, like all atheists do.
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I try to rape four women a day, twice that on Sundays, just to be an over-achiever. Killings are more of a bi-monthly thing - don't want to draw attention.
 
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5mn_Major said:
Brewer is not seeking reelection. Just goes to show that constant wars wear down even the hardest people.
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As usual, reading way more into something than is there. Term limits.
 
Bob Gray said:
Mao and others agree with you.
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Really? You pulled out the Mao card? Does that mean all Christians are answerable for Hitler?

Edit: I see priceless beat me to it.

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Bob Gray said:
No idea what you're responding about.
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That's weak, Bob, even for you. You compare atheists to Mao and then claim you don't know what he's talking about? No one is buying that one.
 
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unofan,

Why keep following me around from thread to thread? It's not like you're coming off my ignore list anytime soon. But, I guess you probably enjoy conversations with yourself.
 
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Bob Gray said:
As usual, reading way more into something than is there. Term limits.
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Yeah...but it sounds was contemplating pulling a Putin:

"I haven't ruled it out, and I've been encouraged by people -- legal scholars and other people -- that it's probably something that I ought to pursue," Brewer told The Arizona Republic.
 
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5mn_Major said:
Yeah...but it sounds was contemplating pulling a Putin:

"I haven't ruled it out, and I've been encouraged by people -- legal scholars and other people -- that it's probably something that I ought to pursue," Brewer told The Arizona Republic.
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I don't see Arizona sending troops into the Crimea anytime soon. Or doing anything else Putinesque.

The question, and it was a legitimate one, was whether her partial term (when she came in the clean up Napolitano's fiscal mess) counted toward term limits or not. Most folks said it did, so it was widely expected that in the end she wouldn't test the waters seriously for another term.
 
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Bob Gray said:
Maybe someday I'll take a mind-reading class if I have time to waste.
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It really shouldn't take a genius to figure out that you compared ALL atheists to a brutal, murderous dictator, so Priceless merely grabbed the paintbrush and compared ALL Christians to another brutal, murderous dictator. A broad stroke for a broad stroke, as it were.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
It really shouldn't take a genius to figure out that you compared ALL atheists to a brutal, murderous dictator, so Priceless merely grabbed the paintbrush and compared ALL Christians to another brutal, murderous dictator. A broad stroke for a broad stroke, as it were.
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Except for the detail that Hitler, by any reasonable evaluation, was not Christian. Details. Mao, on the other hand, certainly was atheistic.
 
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Bob Gray said:
Except for the detail that Hitler, by any reasonable evaluation, was not Christian. Details.
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It's true, he was not. In Hitler's long-term plans, once the Jews, the gypsies, and the gays were gone, Christians would've been next. His rule was established and maintained on the foundation of marginalizing and stamping out particular sects of society.

Regardless, attempting to lump all atheists in with the actions of Mao was a ridiculous broad stroke, and you know it.
 
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What you can say is...that starting with Bibles landing in peoples' hands, modern society has been revolutionized. We've had this discussion many times before, but collectively healthcare, education, compassionate treatment (slavery, child labor, civil rights), modern democracy (women's sufferage), etc. were faar more influenced by Christianity than any other influence. That is to say the concepts...not the church. So recognize it or not and like it or not, the foundation of everything we consider 'the right thing to do' came from Jesus.
 
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5mn_Major said:
What you can say is...that starting with Bibles landing in peoples' hands, modern society has been revolutionized. We've had this discussion many times before, but collectively healthcare, education, compassionate treatment (slavery, child labor, civil rights), modern democracy (women's sufferage), etc. were faar more influenced by Christianity than any other influence. That is to say the concepts...not the church. So recognize it or not and like it or not, the foundation of everything we consider 'the right thing to do' came from Jesus.
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But the bible says I can own slaves...
 
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5mn_Major said:
What you can say is...that starting with Bibles landing in peoples' hands, modern society has been revolutionized. We've had this discussion many times before, but collectively healthcare, education, compassionate treatment (slavery, child labor, civil rights), modern democracy (women's sufferage), etc. were faar more influenced by Christianity than any other influence. That is to say the concepts...not the church. So recognize it or not and like it or not, the foundation of everything we consider 'the right thing to do' came from Jesus.
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But the bible says I can own slaves...
 
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5mn_Major said:
What you can say is...that starting with Bibles landing in peoples' hands, modern society has been revolutionized. We've had this discussion many times before, but collectively healthcare, education, compassionate treatment (slavery, child labor, civil rights), modern democracy (women's sufferage), etc. were faar more influenced by Christianity than any other influence. That is to say the concepts...not the church. So recognize it or not and like it or not, the foundation of everything we consider 'the right thing to do' came from Jesus.
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Didn't Rome and Greece have many (all?) of those concepts long before Christianity existed?
 
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