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2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck

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Obama got it mandated you have to buy health care. Now he's interested in mandating that you vote. What's next for this guy to mandate for people? The party of reaching into your lives in every aspect they can is at it again.
 
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Obama got it mandated you have to buy health care. Now he's interested in mandating that you vote. What's next for this guy to mandate for people? The party of reaching into your lives in every aspect they can is at it again.


I think the next mandate is that all conservatives need to get that bug that's crawled up their @ sses removed. :D
 
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I think the next mandate is that all conservatives need to get that bug that's crawled up their @ sses removed. :D
With this President, who knows, he could try something like that. You heard it here first from Rover.

Seems like you're back to your usual feisty partisan self. For a little while your postings were unexpectedly balanced and reasonable. But we're back to our regular programming.
 
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Obama just floated the concept of mandatory voting. Actually never heard of that one before. The GOP should be ecstatic...no more double voting.

I hate the idea. It presents too much potential for people sour at the system casting a "poison" vote. One of the great things about voluntary voting is that it shows leadership how they're doing in the minds of the general public - if leadership were actually to care about such a thing. Participation rates speak volumes to the tone of the American public, if you believe what political scientists have to say on the matter.
 
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With this President, who knows, he could try something like that. You heard it here first from Rover.

Seems like you're back to your usual feisty partisan self. For a little while your postings were unexpectedly balanced and reasonable. But we're back to our regular programming.


Those newborn twins took the edge off a little bit as I hadn't slept in 2 months. As they're sleeping longer I'M BACK BABY!
 
I hate the idea. It presents too much potential for people sour at the system casting a "poison" vote. One of the great things about voluntary voting is that it shows leadership how they're doing in the minds of the general public - if leadership were actually to care about such a thing. Participation rates speak volumes to the tone of the American public, if you believe what political scientists have to say on the matter.

It just occurred to me that the Soviet Union had a 90% voting rate. Draw your own conclusions.
 
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Those newborn twins took the edge off a little bit as I hadn't slept in 2 months. As they're sleeping longer I'M BACK BABY!
Having been through that a couple times in recent years, I can relate. Lack of sleep does change things. Congrats on the twins!
 
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Those newborn twins took the edge off a little bit as I hadn't slept in 2 months. As they're sleeping longer I'M BACK BABY!

You had twins? Idiocracy got it right, we're doomed!




:D
 
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IINM several (maybe many?) European countries have a penalty you have to pay if you don't vote. My argument has always been they can do that if they include "none of the above" as a candidate in every election, and if none of the above wins then all the standing candidates are prohibited from running in the re-election. This would be really useful as a tool to remove perennial state and locals (particularly judges) who run unopposed.

Generally speaking, I do not favor government mandated voting. Like conscription, it violates the citizen's ability to oppose the state by refusing to legitimize it -- an important right.

You could easily separate the proof of voting from who you voted for by having the receipt be your entry into the polling place. The mandate would be "you have to get your butt down to the polling place." Since this would be expensive states would be given the option to offer vote-by-mail, which is far better anyway (Oregon has been exclusively vote by mail since 1998 and it works great).
 
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It would be a nightmare to try to force everyone to vote. I suppose you could hit them with a penalty the way you do for not buying health insurance, if we want to be that heavy-handed again. But apart from a financial penalty, I don't see how you force folks to vote who, for a variety of reasons, don't want to.
 
It just occurred to me that the Soviet Union had a 90% voting rate. Draw your own conclusions.

The Fascist Dictatorship in Australia has mandated voting. Look at how it has destroyed that country.
 
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obama got it mandated you have to buy health care. Now he's interested in mandating that you vote. What's next for this guy to mandate for people? the party of reaching into your lives in every aspect they can is at it again.


lol.
 
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The Fascist Dictatorship in Australia has mandated voting. Look at how it has destroyed that country.
That's because the sun is in the North. They get sunburned on the other side of their bodies.
 
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With this President, who knows, he could try something like that. You heard it here first from Rover.

Seems like you're back to your usual feisty partisan self. For a little while your postings were unexpectedly balanced and reasonable. But we're back to our regular programming.

He must be campaigning to defend PotY. :eek::p
 
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Those newborn twins took the edge off a little bit as I hadn't slept in 2 months. As they're sleeping longer I'M BACK BABY!

Congrats Rover, that's awesome. The best time & energy investment you'll ever make. Trouble is it's a long-term thing, it takes 6 or 8 years before you can profitably put them to work in the salt mines.
 
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Congrats Rover, that's awesome. The best time & energy investment you'll ever make. Trouble is it's a long-term thing, it takes 6 or 8 years before you can profitably put them to work in the salt mines.

Will the union contracts he supports allow that? :p
 
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Bob, Clown, geezer - thanks guys! It was a long, looong time coming for us especially nerve wracking after we hit 40. Really the last thing I wanted to accomplish, so despite the lack of sleep and draining of funds its been great. Having kids forces you to assess things differently but I do believe they'll end up doing better than me, and will be well able to manage things with their peers in their own generation once mine departs from the scene.
 
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Do we have anyone from NH around here? This week in Republicans.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...er-rough-message-4th-graders?cid=sm_fb_maddow
Fourth graders from Lincoln Akerman School in Hampton Falls received a warm welcome at the State House last Thursday. They and their teacher, James Cutting, were guests in the Gallery.

That reception quickly turned chilly as students got a glimpse of the cold, harsh realities of politics in the Granite State.

The idea seemed pretty straightforward. The fourth-grade class, made up of 9-and-10-year-olds from the Southeast corner of the state, worked on a proposal to make the Red Tail Hawk the official State Raptor of New Hampshire. The kids and their teacher brought their proposal to the state capitol, and it was approved by the Environment and Agriculture Committee.

But as the report from NH1.com’s Shari Small makes clear, on the floor of the state House, the children ran into unexpectedly fierce Republican opposition. The kids heard one GOP lawmaker argue, for example, in reference to the Red Tail Hawk, “It grasps them with its talons then uses its razor sharp beak to basically tear it apart limb by limb, and I guess the shame about making this a state bird is it would serve as a much better mascot for Planned Parenthood.”

Those comments, from state Rep. Warren Groen (R), were apparently the harshest of the debate, but he wasn’t alone. In fact, the Republican-led New Hampshire state House killed the proposal from the 4th graders on a 133-to-160 vote.
 
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