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2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck

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Just do it.

Back in the summer of 2013, when Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) was threatening to nuke the filibuster for nominations, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) made a threat of his own.

"There not a doubt in my mind that if the majority breaks the rules of the Senate to change the rules of the Senate with regard to nominations, the next majority will do it for everything," McConnell said on the Senate floor on June 18, 2013. "I wouldn't be able to argue, a year and a half from now if I were the majority leader, to my colleagues that we shouldn't enact our legislative agenda with a simple 51 votes, having seen what the previous majority just did. I mean there would be no rational basis for that."

Reid went for the "nuclear option" later that year, enlisting 51 other Democrats to eliminate the 60-vote threshold for all executive branch and judicial nominations except the Supreme Court.

Now McConnell is poised to become majority leader in January.
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Seriously, Cecil. Please do us all a favor. Majorities should matter, regardless of who they are.
 
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You know what might have caused the CIA memo to be less explosive? Not engaging in torture in the first place.

Don't blame the report, blame the actions that led to it.
 
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unofan said:
You know what might have caused the CIA memo to be less explosive? Not engaging in torture in the first place.

Don't blame the report, blame the actions that led to it.
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The CIA should stop with its tactics.
The CIA should only use tactics used by enemies and adversaries.

So, who, which non-combatant, do we behead first?
 
The Sicatoka said:
The CIA should stop with its tactics.
The CIA should only use tactics used by enemies and adversaries.

So, who, which non-combatant, do we behead first?
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No, the CIA shouldn't torture people because we're supposed to be better than the terrorists. American exceptionalism and all that.

But then again, you think Jack Bauer is a real person, don't you?
 
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unofan said:
No, the CIA shouldn't torture people because we're supposed to be better than the terrorists. American exceptionalism and all that.

But then again, you think Jack Bauer is a real person, don't you?
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No, we shouldn't torture. We shouldn't have prisoners to torture.

And I've never watched an episode of "24". (I only know the name from the incessant commercials.)
 
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Torture apology is simple. If you believe we should torture suspects then you also believe we should torture their children in front of them, as any justification used for the former applies to the latter.

What's that, you wouldn't torture their children in front of them? But what about the Ticking Bomb Scenario? I mean, it's just a few lives against thousands...
 
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The Sicatoka said:
No, we shouldn't torture. We shouldn't have prisoners to torture.

And I've never watched an episode of "24". (I only know the name from the incessant commercials.)
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So we should just kill them...sure thing. I am sure if they feel we are guilty of the same things you would say they should kill us too then?

Oh wait I forgot, we are America we are never wrong :rolleyes:
 
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So yeah, the report is about as bad as expected. At least McCain is breaking ranks and siding with the dems on this one.

The congressmen who say this report will cause blood to be on the dems hands can go fark themselves, however.
 
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unofan said:
So yeah, the report is about as bad as expected
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Plus it's the redacted version that's only about 1/8th of the original report which was certainly also heavily self-censored.
 
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unofan said:
So yeah, the report is about as bad as expected. At least McCain is breaking ranks and siding with the dems on this one.

The congressmen who say this report will cause blood to be on the dems hands can go fark themselves, however.
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Sleep deprivation; embarrassing nudity; slaps; prolonged exposure to excessively loud and irritating music; near drownings.

A little ashamed to say that sounds a lot like our last golf trip to Vegas. :o
 
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