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2nd Term Part 5: Big Brotha

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If this is one of the funniest things you've ever read, I respectfully suggest you get out of the house more. I thought conservatives were stiffs but this takes it to a whole new level!

If you have extensive knowledge of the college financing system, you might want to bring it to the forefront when you post because it ain't coming through from your comments.

Moving on, not sure what I'm supposed to be bitter about? :confused: Perhaps you have me confused with another poster.

Finallly though, I do notice once again a complete unwillingness out of our friends on the right to address supply and demand. IF you have less American college students via less funding, that gap will be filled due to high demand of overseas students to fill those spaces. Perhaps conservatism believes that this is a good thing, as the students who will not be able to afford college can then get lower wage jobs working for these now educated foreign professionals. If that is the mindset those on the right should own up to it.

I was referring to your comments about interest rates. I'll go find them later tonight and repost them.

What I found funny was your continued practice of presuming you know everything AND you also can determine what other people know...and your basis for those presumptions is based on political leanings.

There is no less funding, and there is no indication a change in interest rates would do much to dissuade students from borrowing to attend college. If anything, the guy pointing out that kids likely don't even know what interest is probably isn't the guy who would subscribe to the interest rate freezing kids out of college.

And lastly, if you are now saying conservatives are trying to bring more of 'those people' into the country from other countries, I dare say that conflicts with other statements you've made about the tolerance of conservatives and their views on immigration (legal or otherwise).

I can only speak for myself, as a proponent of better education in the US I would be inclined to look into the mix and funding of international students in US colleges, especially as they may crowd out US students from the science and tech fields. I'd be more likely to provide direction to schools, who cannot live without federal grants on research and federal tuition grants etc, and put the same pressure on them I do on states when it comes to highway funding and speed limits/drunk driving programs that they better not sit on billions of dollars of endowments while getting huge research grants AND expect to be tax free if they are not supporting the cause.

Of course, I'm an independent so I don't have to worry about aggravating a huge political support network, aka the academia machine.
 
Re: 2nd Term Part 5: Big Brotha

Who said anything about foreign students being scary? Feel free to post a quote. What I'm saying, matter of factly, is that if you cut student loans, or make them more expensive, you aren't going to change the cost of college because there is plenty of demand to fill those slots from overseas students. Even if they are the most virtuous people on earth, the end result is less educated Americans and more educated foreign students who will then go to work for competitor nations (China, India, etc) which will most likely cost American jobs.

So, to answer your question of "who cares", anybody concerned about American competitiveness. Apparently that's not you, but its something I'm sure paying attention to.

Lastly, again, kids taking out loans have little recourse to get rid of them. That's unlike an unsubsidized loan from a bank or a mortgage. You have to pay it off, so any earnings you make be it from Apple or Starbucks goes towards that.

How about, in order to make Americans competitive, that we actually compete instead of trying to throw everyone else off the hill? That's why this country is doing so poorly.

I finally understand what Washington was saying when he said that the death of the country would be the two-party system.
 
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How about, in order to make Americans competitive, that we actually compete instead of trying to throw everyone else off the hill? That's why this country is doing so poorly.

I finally understand what Washington was saying when he said that the death of the country would be the two-party system.

What does your vapid response above have to do with the question at hand? You've just made two nothing statements that have added zero color to the discussion.
 
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How about, in order to make Americans competitive, that we actually compete instead of trying to throw everyone else off the hill? That's why this country is doing so poorly.

I finally understand what Washington was saying when he said that the death of the country would be the two-party system.

You really believe that Mitt Romney 47% Bull**** don't you?

Sad.
 
Re: 2nd Term Part 5: Big Brotha

You really believe that Mitt Romney 47% Bull**** don't you?

Sad.

To what are you referring?

A person's desire to create initiative for themselves is not motivated by politics. Mind you, this is not to say that the initiative itself is not politically motivated. I'm talking about us, as citizens of this country, stopping feeling sorry for ourselves and grabbing the bull by the horns. It's time for us to start acting responsibly and account for all of our actions. Let's not make the same mistake that Rome made in creating an empire and leading to the Dark Ages.
 
Re: 2nd Term Part 5: Big Brotha

That's the one interest-bearing loan I truly don't mind paying each month. Got the loan back in 2007-08. My interest rate has always been 1.8%. Over the life of the loan I pay something like $60 interest. :)
It's a very good deal. The Bank of North Dakota has been a true success story. It was there 30+ years ago when I was in college and still provides an extremely good service for the people of North Dakota, and even some surrounding areas.
 
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It's a very good deal. The Bank of North Dakota has been a true success story. It was there 30+ years ago when I was in college and still provides an extremely good service for the people of North Dakota, and even some surrounding areas.

How bad are the rates to invest with them?
 
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The Student Loan Rate was 6.8% in 2007 when the Dems wrote legislation to cut it in half going into an election year. That same legislation called for the rate to return to 6.8% which it is now doing. It's just going back to the old 2007 level.

The top interest rate was 39.6% in 2001 when the Reps wrote legislation to cut it to 35%. That same legislation called for the rate to return to 39.6% which it is now supposed to do. It's just going back to the old 2001 level.

Right?
 
Re: 2nd Term Part 5: Big Brotha

I'll never understand why that is so difficult for people to understand.

The message is: You can commit all kinds of fraud, default on loans, bring the entire global economy to its knees and beg money from the government and we'll still throw free money at you. Try to better yourself by getting a college education and we'll screw you in the ass and not even have the goddamm common courtesy of giving a reach-around.
 
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The message is: You can commit all kinds of fraud, default on loans, bring the entire global economy to its knees and beg money from the government and we'll still throw free money at you. Try to better yourself by getting a college education and we'll screw you in the ass and not even have the goddamm common courtesy of giving a reach-around.

If you don't like it, start a bank and start shelling out cash for loans. We'll see how long you last.
 
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If you don't like it, start a bank and start shelling out cash for loans. We'll see how long you last.

If the Feds back me like they did all the other big banks I bet I do just fine at it. In fact it would be pretty simple and I'd make myself millions and millions of dollars without even breaking a sweat.
 
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If the Feds back me like they did all the other big banks I bet I do just fine at it. In fact it would be pretty simple and I'd make myself millions and millions of dollars without even breaking a sweat.

I can't wait to see this.
 
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If the Feds back me like they did all the other big banks I bet I do just fine at it. In fact it would be pretty simple and I'd make myself millions and millions of dollars without even breaking a sweat.

All hat, no cattle.
In my experience these haters are the ones who have NEVER run their own business and would fail miserably if they tried. Still, doesn't keep them from *****ing about all the "fat cats" on "easy street" who are actually out there risking everything to set themselves up in business.
Trust me, starting any business from scratch is not "no sweat." Or do you want to prove me wrong?
 
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