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2nd Term - Part 3 - Echo Chambers, Chorales, and Wingnuts, Oh My!

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FlagDUDE08 said:
If you're identifying them as that, yet they are not, that makes your hypocritical. Nice try.
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If they identify as something they aren't, that makes them hypocritical. Nice try.
 
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Priceless said:
If they identify as something they aren't, that makes them hypocritical. Nice try.
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It isn't them that are identifying themselves as such, it is actually conservative pundits, such as Michael Savage. Nice try.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
It isn't them that are identifying themselves as such, it is actually conservative pundits, such as Michael Savage. Nice try.
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So they aren't a conservative group? Then I guess the IRS wasn't targeting conservative groups after all.
 
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Priceless said:
So they aren't a conservative group? Then I guess the IRS wasn't targeting conservative groups after all.
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But it seems a bit too coincidental that they would target those groups but not groups such as MoveOn.org, nae? Just because they themselves don't label as such doesn't mean that you lefties don't label them as such. Don't assume negative cases.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
But it seems a bit too coincidental that they would target those groups but not groups such as MoveOn.org, nae? Just because they themselves don't label as such doesn't mean that you lefties don't label them as such. Don't assume negative cases.
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Either they are a conservative group or they aren't.
 
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Priceless said:
Either they are a conservative group or they aren't.
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It's funny that everyone seems to have a different opinion on this, sometimes holding two separate opinions and pulling them out when it is convenient.

Not to mention, there are two TEA parties. There's the real one that actually believes in being fiscally sound, and the one formed by the GOP as a bandwagon to try to get their name out there again.
 
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You know, its funny how quickly knuckledraggers forgot about Benghazi which was supposed to be an IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE BABY! in order to move onto other scandals du jour. One has to wonder why this change happened. Could it be because:

1) Bob Gates came out blasting the "cartoonish" view of the military's ability to intervene in during the crisis? Although, I suppose Gates is now a liberal. :rolleyes: However, he did say he'd react exactly the same way. Patman, Opie, etc - you views on this please?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_16...-have-cartoonish-view-of-military-capability/

2) Or, could it be that The Boner and his congressional leadership WERE ALREADY BRIEFED about the e-mails months ago! What's that you say? Well, here it is:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/846081/

Now either the guy read the stuff and didn't care, didn't attend the meeting or follow up with the people who did, or IS PART OF THE CONSPIRACY!!! Again knucks' lets hear from ya.

3) Finally, could it be this:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/05/voters-trust-clinton-over-gop-on-benghazi.html

You know, the point of a manufactured scandal is that it actually does damage to your opponents, not to yourself. Not only has this caveman fest had minimal effect on HRC's popularity, it also pushes her that much closer to making the race just to kick @ ss on conservatives yet again.
 
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The scandals are coming hot and heavy for Obama, with Justice getting blasted by the AP for trying to get all sorts of phone records on reporters. Obama's insularity isn't going to help him with this stuff.
 
Priceless said:
Either they are a conservative group or they aren't.
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Yeah. But don't expect the sociopathic troll to concede that.

Its also convenient that he ignores how they also didn't target american crossroads, karl rove's funnel for political money.
 
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Bob Gray said:
The scandals are coming hot and heavy for Obama, with Justice getting blasted by the AP for trying to get all sorts of phone records on reporters. Obama's insularity isn't going to help him with this stuff.
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No related deaths yet? Just sacks?
 
FlagDUDE08 said:
If you're identifying them as that, yet they are not, that makes your hypocritical. Nice try.
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Just because priceless quoted you and I happened to see this...

That is not what hypocritical means. Being incorrect is not the same as being hypocritical. Words have meaning.

Believing 1+1=potato would make you an idiot, not a hypocrite.

But to get back to my original question, when did the tea party give up its non-partisan masquerade?
 
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Ihave always thought of the tea party as basically libertarian, not wanting to directly affiliate itself with republicans. I assume this is more the direction of tea party denials than actually denying the groups membership leans right.
 
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unofan said:
Just because priceless quoted you and I happened to see this...

That is not what hypocritical means. Being incorrect is not the same as being hypocritical. Words have meaning.

Believing 1+1=potato would make you an idiot, not a hypocrite.
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Yes, but in previous threads, Priceless, along with many of you lefties, have called them knuckledraggers, conservatives, whatever right-wing terminology you were using that day. Now, because there's an accusation of partisan discrimination on the table, Priceless is conveniently quick to disown them from the conservative ranks in order to take the heat off his own group. THAT is the definition of being hypocritical, especially since I would put money down that he calls them some form of knuckledragger again within the next couple years.
 
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unofan said:
That is not what hypocritical means. Being incorrect is not the same as being hypocritical. Words have meaning.
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Actually, you know what, let's go straight from the horse's mouth. Source on this one is http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...480900591444118.html?mod=us_most_pop_newsreel

That's become clear since IRS Director of Exempt Organizations Lois Lerner admitted on Friday that the agency targeted conservatives for special tax-exempt scrutiny during the 2012 election season. The story has already blossomed into the latest abuse of government power, as documents show the IRS targeted tea party types and groups that specifically opposed the Obama Administration.
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Oh, and if you don't like the source, here's one you might like: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/10/irs-conservative-groups_n_3254180.html
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Yes, but in previous threads, Priceless, along with many of you lefties, have called them knuckledraggers, conservatives, whatever right-wing terminology you were using that day. Now, because there's an accusation of partisan discrimination on the table, Priceless is conveniently quick to disown them from the conservative ranks in order to take the heat off his own group. THAT is the definition of being hypocritical, especially since I would put money down that he calls them some form of knuckledragger again within the next couple years.
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I don't deny their conservative status, THEY deny that they are a conservative group. Well you can't have it both ways. Ether they are a conservative group or they shouldn't claim the IRS is targeting conservative groups when the IRS comes after them.
 
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Priceless said:
I don't deny their conservative status, THEY deny that they are a conservative group. Well you can't have it both ways. Ether they are a conservative group or they shouldn't claim the IRS is targeting conservative groups when the IRS comes after them.
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Once again, you're making ANOTHER incorrect assumption. Did you ever think that maybe they contacted the Congresspersons elected in 2010, and because they HAPPENED to run on the GOP ticket you're trying to blanket associate the entire party? http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/13/miller-conservatives-arent-paranoid-irs-really-out/
 
Priceless said:
I don't deny their conservative status, THEY deny that they are a conservative group. Well you can't have it both ways. Ether they are a conservative group or they shouldn't claim the IRS is targeting conservative groups when the IRS comes after them.
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Exactly. Frankly all political 501c3 groups should be scrutinized. As the vast majority of them, or at least the big ones, are conservative leaning they will make up most of the investigations. Moveon.org isn't set up as a charitable organization doling out political contributions to my knowledge. Seems to me the righties here are in fact a victim of their success in that the high profile nature of these organizations and the billions being funneled into them attracted the attention of the IRS. Why is that surprising to anybody?
 
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Rover

El Presidente is not going to be impeached. I would think that the Congre$$ would prefer an impotent Executive so they can call the shots. Of course, that implies that the two houses would work together.
 
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Rover said:
Exactly. Frankly all political 501c3 groups should be scrutinized. As the vast majority of them, or at least the big ones, are conservative leaning they will make up most of the investigations. Moveon.org isn't set up as a charitable organization doling out political contributions to my knowledge. Seems to me the righties here are in fact a victim of their success in that the high profile nature of these organizations and the billions being funneled into them attracted the attention of the IRS. Why is that surprising to anybody?
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feel free to prove that the "vast majority of them" are conservative...I'll wait.
 
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