ericredaxe
Veteran
Exactly. Does that perspective help you understand how ridiculous these extreme "either/or" barbs sound?
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2026 Elections: To the Midterms and Beyond!
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unofan
Well-known member
I understand that one side gets away with them and will still get elected regularly while the other side gets scolded for having a fraction of the extremism of the first. The double standard has been in place and been bullshiat for decades.
ericredaxe
Veteran
But that is in the DSA platform.
And i believe you are correct about the majority overstaying their visas. The DSA platform advocates for 100% amnesty regardless of status. For people like this wouldn't it make more sense to figure out an improved system to determine who can stay / have their visas extended / possible path to citizenship?
unofan
Well-known member
Put another way, I abhor the designated hitter and agree with Crash Davis that there should be a constitutional amendment outlawing it. I still want the Cubs to employ it so long as their opponents use it, however.
rufus
rock and roller
I wanna know what you consider a "moderate' position is. Because as I said previously, I suspect, like Brent, it's just Republican positions, just without all the chaos, hatred, and casual racism.
rufus
rock and roller
We've tried that. Donnie and the Republicans keep torpedoing it. Or haven't you been paying attention?
rufus
rock and roller
Who keeps voting against laws outlawing cousin-fucking. Just shut the fuck up.
ericredaxe
Veteran
Yes - i think it is shameful. That does not mean i support 100% amnesty.
rufus
rock and roller
But those aren't "extremists" Those are the 'moderate' politicians that you say we need more of.
ericredaxe
Veteran
How about something along the lines of - borders are more secure to reduce illegal crossings but at the same time system is revised to increase immigration for those who will be productive members of society while also identifying and keeping out those who may be here to do harm. For those already here, figure out a path to permanent status and/or citizenship for those that qualify (meaning you are here being productive). And sorry, if you are here illegally and you are committing crimes then you are going to be deported (but we are doing it in a manner that isn't terrorizing those here legally or on a path to extended visas/permanent status).
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aparch
Acetaminamerican
ticapnews
Never graduate.
And this
ericredaxe
Veteran
I voted for Harris - and supported the bipartisan bill.
Are you saying that since it didn't get through you think we should go for no borders / 100% amnesty? Or was the bipartisan bill too "moderate" for you to begin with and you wanted no borders all along?
Also, in fairness, it is untrue that everyone who voted for Trump in 2024 wanted this version of ICE.
French Rage
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He said he was gonna.
ericredaxe
Veteran
He said he was going to have unmarked masked agents shooting US citizens?
Please find me that quote.
Spartanforlife4
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On the heels of some not-great polling news yesterday, Stevens just straight up came out and said El-Sayed hates Jewish Americans.
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Haley Stevens (@HaleyforMI) on X
Abdul, we were both on the ballot in 2018. I was capable of winning my competitive primary and general election. You lost. You lost by over twenty points to Gretchen Whitmer and you will lose to Mike Rogers by talking like this. Everyone in America understands you want to blame
ticapnews
Never graduate.
I don't know where you got that idea.
CBS News said it was just a housing proposal.
Kristallnacht was a jobs program.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Proud Statist
She is a disgusting little gremlin.On the heels of some not-great polling news yesterday, Stevens just straight up came out and said El-Sayed hates Jewish Americans.
Haley Stevens (@HaleyforMI) on X
Abdul, we were both on the ballot in 2018. I was capable of winning my competitive primary and general election. You lost. You lost by over twenty points to Gretchen Whitmer and you will lose to Mike Rogers by talking like this. Everyone in America understands you want to blame
aparch
Acetaminamerican
You keep arguing that there are no absolutes, but then keep making absolutes.
Were the Hatians also eating dogs and cats in Ohio?
Why is it okay for one side to spout insane shit and then have water carriers try to man-splain it away as just locker talk and they didn't mean it, and the other party gets held at gunpoint for even suggesting a bumper sticker slogan?