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2022 MidTerms & State races- who ya got?

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ScoobyDoo said:
The facts are that responsible gun owners will not do what is necessary to pass laws like that, and we already know that irresponsible gun owners will not do it either.
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This is where I beg to differ with you Scoob. I am said responsible gun owner and my politicians and the politicians of the states I have lived in who i do not claim as my own (like Ron Johnons or Rob Portman or a host of state representatives) all know where I stand on this issue. When I do political work for my employer we are often supporting politicians who advocate restricting firearms related things a whole lot more than they are now. The friends I have who also own firearms are equally as responsible as I am and also share many of my views on firearms, firearm safety and reasonable changes in the laws. We ALL advocate for safe, reasonable and responsible firearm ownership.

The problem here is not responsible gun owners, the problem is the fuckwits who are not. And as I have said a number of times, because the sum total of us cannot behave responsbibly if they banned them all tomorrow I would understand and agree. Don't lump people like me into some bucket where even it we don't do anything stupid with our guns we aren't trying to do things to make sure no one else does stupid things either.
 
WeAreNDHockey said:
This is where I beg to differ with you Scoob. I am said responsible gun owner and my politicians and the politicians of the states I have lived in who i do not claim as my own (like Ron Johnons or Rob Portman or a host of state representatives) all know where I stand on this issue. When I do political work for my employer we are often supporting politicians who advocate restricting firearms related things a whole lot more than they are now. The friends I have who also own firearms are equally as responsible as I am and also share many of my views on firearms, firearm safety and reasonable changes in the laws. We ALL advocate for safe, reasonable and responsible firearm ownership.

The problem here is not responsible gun owners, the problem is the fuckwits who are not. And as I have said a number of times, because the sum total of us cannot behave responsbibly if they banned them all tomorrow I would understand and agree. Don't lump people like me into some bucket where even it we don't do anything stupid with our guns we aren't trying to do things to make sure no one else does stupid things either.
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Most of the responsible gun owners I know vote straight R ticket knowing that responsible gun laws will never be passed. And they laugh about it.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Most of the responsible gun owners I know vote straight R ticket knowing that responsible gun laws will never be passed. And they laugh about it.
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Quit calling those people responsible gun owners because they are not by definition responsible anythings since they vote straight R.
 
LynahFan said:
1. Magazine capacity limits
2. Muzzle energy limits
3. Number of weapons owned limits

None of these limits interfere with hunting.

Pass them now.
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What's funny is our trap range already does this. And more. We also control what ammunition we can use.
 
I find irony in that reasonable people (so not republicans) are willing to compromise on gun laws but when it comes to abortion laws, conservatives are all or nothing.
 
It is a zero sum game for the GOP because, ironically, they made deals with the devil. When you have ideas the majority hate you are beholden to the hardcores. When you are on a holy mission (like Evangelicals are) there is no negotiation. Half the GOP bleating on about this could honestly care less about abortion that is why they are all so badly informed and their arguments make no sense.

When Dodds came down my girlfriend and I got in a fight over the fact that a lot of women support the banning of abortion. She said that it came from the fact that a lot of women have no idea what goes into an abortion ban or even what the majority of abortions deal with. I said a lot dont care cause of the God nonsense and because there is a subset that still exists that think Phyllis Shlafley is a hero. As we learn more and more about the GOPs falling numbers what you are seeing is that my girlfriend was right. A lot of the people who were ok with Dodds had no idea what an abortion ban truly is. Like when Trump was going to end Obamacare and a bunch of old Faux viewers (redundant much?) realized that their "ACA Coverage" was Obamacare and flipped the switch. As they realize how much it impacts everyone, they are souring faster and faster. And the GOP can't mitigate it at all, because in most states if you even support "for the health of the mother" you risk losing the support of the Party and the donors.

Basically we have such an uninformed populace at this point we are lucky we are as advanced as we are.
 
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Possibly an interesting development in the North Dakota U.S. Senate seat up this November.

John Hoeven (R) is the incumbent, and would likely win by a huge margin.

However, in the state legislature there is a sizable Trump wing, lead by a guy named Rick Becker. They don't control a majority of the Republican caucus in the state legislature, but their group is large enough to create some noise.

Becker ran against Hoeven at the nominating convention, and lost. He has now announced that he thinks he'll run in the November election, assuming he can gather a 1000 signatures by early September (which probably won't be a problem.) That opens the election up to a possible upset by the Democratic candidate (who I know nothing about).

Edit: It looks like the (D) candidate is Katrina Christiansen, an assistant professor of engineering at a small college in North Dakota. Looks like she's a relatively recent arrival to the state, from Nebraska, so it'll be interesting to see how she does.
 
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SJHovey said:
Possibly an interesting development in the North Dakota U.S. Senate seat up this November.

John Hoeven (R) is the incumbent, and would likely win by a huge margin.

However, in the state legislature there is a sizable Trump wing, lead by a guy named Rick Becker. They don't control a majority of the Republican caucus in the state legislature, but their group is large enough to create some noise.

Becker ran against Hoeven at the nominating convention, and lost. He has now announced that he thinks he'll run in the November election, assuming he can gather a 1000 signatures by early September (which probably won't be a problem.) That opens the election up to a possible upset by the Democratic candidate (who I know nothing about).

Edit: It looks like the (D) candidate is Katrina Christiansen, an assistant professor of engineering at a small college in North Dakota. Looks like she's a relatively recent arrival to the state, from Nebraska, so it'll be interesting to see how she does.
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Even if they split perfectly, can a Dem get 34% in NoDak now that the Reich has awakened?
 
Kepler said:
Even if they split perfectly, can a Dem get 34% in NoDak now that the Reich has awakened?
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I was wondering the same thing. Looks like only 32% (rounding up) went for Biden in 2020. Heitkamp received 44% in her losing battle against Kramer in 2018, but she was a sitting Senator, so incumbency, plus she was from North Dakota. As Hovey’s implying, being an outsider may cost Christiansen a few percentage points or more at the ballot box.
 
Kepler said:
Even if they split perfectly, can a Dem get 34% in NoDak now that the Reich has awakened?
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Heitkamp got 44%, so I don't think it is outside the realm of possibility that Hoeven could get beat. That said, I think the batshit crazy wing of the Republican caucus in which Becker resides is smaller than some people think. Becker has been beaten up pretty badly in the state by media and others over some of his antics.
 
SJHovey said:
Heitkamp got 44%
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But she was an incumbent who dated from before the GOP flushed their last living brain cell down the toilet.

And I get the impression that the huge influx of folks into ND is dominated by the truck nuts types.

Off topic: I just learned about these.
 
Kepler said:
But she was an incumbent who dated from before the GOP flushed their last living brain cell down the toilet.

And I get the impression that the huge influx of folks into ND is dominated by the truck nuts types.

Off topic: I just learned about these.
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Heitkamp maybe outperformed because she was the incumbent, and because she was from the state.

If Becker gets in the race, and if I were forced to handicap the race, I think Hoeven wins, but not by a big margin over Christiansen. I say that because I just don't think Becker is going to draw quite enough to overcome the margin. But it's going to be a lot closer race than it should be, and if things break the right way for Christiansen, I could see an upset.
 
SJHovey said:
Heitkamp maybe outperformed because she was the incumbent, and because she was from the state.

If Becker gets in the race, and if I were forced to handicap the race, I think Hoeven wins, but not by a big margin over Christiansen. I say that because I just don't think Becker is going to draw quite enough to overcome the margin. But it's going to be a lot closer race than it should be, and if things break the right way for Christiansen, I could see an upset.
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I think having to run as an independent will knock his numbers way down. Hoeven seems free of scandal, even though it appears to have been a close primary battle between the two.
 
Just found out we’ll have to wait two weeks until we get the actual results for the House election that’s today. So it’s a guarantee that Palin will spend the next two weeks trying to destroy the whole thing (because she’s likely going to finish third).

Edit: To clarify the only results we’ll get tonight is the initial vote, they won’t do the ranked choice results (and therefore find out who actually wins) until all the absentee ballots are in two weeks later.
 
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