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2020 NCAA Championship Thread

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Russell Jaslow said:
For your first post, you decided to tread on this dangerous turf? :eek:

Don't poke the bear.
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Definitely dangerous territory, but if you do it just by Pairwise, there is no reason to have conferences, and I have been an advocate to have 16 teams make it. Just a few years ago only 11 made it, and they just bumped it up to 12.

I get the point 2 or 3 upsets and you have teams that have a terrible body of work making the Tournament, increasing to 16 teams would allow "more deserving" teams to play.
 
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abcpens10 said:
Definitely dangerous territory, but if you do it just by Pairwise, there is no reason to have conferences, and I have been an advocate to have 16 teams make it. Just a few years ago only 11 made it, and they just bumped it up to 12.

I get the point 2 or 3 upsets and you have teams that have a terrible body of work making the Tournament, increasing to 16 teams would allow "more deserving" teams to play.
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Not to sound like a jerk, because golightning will jump all over me, but we've argued this a million times over the past umpteen years. I don't think anyone at this juncture of a cancelled playoff season is in the mood to rehash it all over again right now.
 
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sacole13 said:
But yet we don't live in Italy, nor Iran. Our medical system is better. Hmmmmmmm Just saying.......
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Still believe it's no big deal:

And they said this: "We in the U.S. are currently where Italy was a week ago. We see nothing to say we will be substantially different." That statement alone should be enough to sober anyone who still doubts the seriousness of what is happening. Because what is going on in Italy right now is a horror show, one that many never thought could happen.

That UCSF panel didn’t break new ground with the information it was sharing, but it was starkly straightforward in presenting the information that many news accounts continue to tiptoe around.

At this point, coronavirus is past containment. “Now we’re just trying to slow the spread, to help healthcare providers deal with the demand peak to … ‘flatten the curve’” and buy time for the healthcare system to respond.

We don’t know the true extent of infection in the United States. No one knows.

In the next 12-18 months, 40-70% of the U.S. is likely to be infected, because it takes that kind of number to develop any “herd immunity” that will prevent further epidemic outbreaks. At the moment 0% of the population is immune.

Not only is the U.S. just days behind Italy, but there is no reason to expect that things in the U.S. will not follow the same trends displayed in Italy.
Those numbers, combined with a 1% case fatality rate, mean 1.6 million could die in the next year. Italy is currently experiencing a case fatality rate of 5%.
The reason that number is so terrible in Italy was detailed this week by The Atlantic. When Italy was experiencing a few hundred cases two weeks ago, each of those patients was getting the attention they needed, including respiratory specialists and specialized equipment. A week later, over 2,000 COVID-19 patients were still getting access to artificial ventilation for breathing difficulties.

But a week after that, over 10,000 patients had overrun available ICU beds in northern Italy. Not only were there no longer enough respirators to go around, but there also weren’t enough doctors. Or beds. Patients were left gasping for air in waiting rooms, and there was absolutely nothing that could be done for them.
In fact, the death rate directly attributable to COVID-19 doesn’t reflect the real scope of the problem. It wasn’t just that the number of patients meant that not all those infected with coronavirus could get the treatment they needed. Those beds were also full for patients coming in with heart attacks, strokes, and trauma caused in car accidents. The survival rate for every serious medical issue plummeted because of novel coronavirus.

Italian doctors have been forced into a terrible position of triaging patients based not on the seriousness of their illness but on their age and prospects for “remaining life years.” In some locations, patients over 65 or with additional medical complications such as diabetes or heart disease are simply being left to die. That’s not happening out of cruelty. It’s happening because there are other, younger patients at the same hospital who need the respirators … or they would die.

This is only getting worse. Not just because since that article was written, the number of cases in Italy has soared past 15,000, but also because younger victims who initially tried to handle their illness at home are now struggling into hospitals after their symptoms have worsened. Doctors there are now faced with the challenge of not just refusing treatment, but stopping treatment so they can deal with patients with potentially better outcomes.

It’s an insidious, awful math—and a crushing moral burden—that no doctor wants to face. And, unfortunately, it could be coming very, very soon to a town very, very near you.
 
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Russell Jaslow said:
Which is why I said the official "release," which was not difficult to find on the front page of ncaa.com.
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I was explaining why people who choose to only read headlines would have missed it. I should say something about the folly of that way of getting the news, but it's probably not worth it.
 
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Russell Jaslow said:
Not to sound like a jerk, because golightning will jump all over me, but we've argued this a million times over the past umpteen years. I don't think anyone at this juncture of a cancelled playoff season is in the mood to rehash it all over again right now.
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Nah,,,, I’m coming to terms with all this stuff,, I had a nice few weeks planned,, A nice timeshare in Orlando all next week followed by a trip to Buffalo and a room at the HarborCentre (Actually have a lot of family there and I’m wearing my Bills gear now) , not to mention a big family cruise in June,,,,,, All of them got washed away. Finally,’after 24 hours of soul searching, I came up with something positive:: By the time the NHL resumes , Hedman and Stamkos will be ready to go!! CV screwed the Leafs
 
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abcpens10 said:
Definitely dangerous territory, but if you do it just by Pairwise, there is no reason to have conferences, and I have been an advocate to have 16 teams make it. Just a few years ago only 11 made it, and they just bumped it up to 12.

I get the point 2 or 3 upsets and you have teams that have a terrible body of work making the Tournament, increasing to 16 teams would allow "more deserving" teams to play.
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jsyk, for the tournament to get to 16 teams about 20 more schools would need to add men's ice hockey programs.
 
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golightning77 said:
Nah,,,, I’m coming to terms with all this stuff,, I had a nice few weeks planned,, A nice timeshare in Orlando all next week followed by a trip to Buffalo and a room at the HarborCentre (Actually have a lot of family there and I’m wearing my Bills gear now) , not to mention a big family cruise in June,,,,,, All of them got washed away. Finally,’after 24 hours of soul searching, I came up with something positive:: By the time the NHL resumes , Hedman and Stamkos will be ready to go!! CV screwed the Leafs
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Sorry to hear about your vacation plans getting messed up. I was just telling my friend, "What the heck am I going to do with all my vacation days?" Believe it or not, I was seriously considering going to the Singapore Grand Prix this year with subsequent forays to Malaysia and Thailand. To paraphrase the line in Airplane, "I sure picked the wrong year for that."

As a Rangers fan, I know what you mean. We can get Krieder and the new goalie (I will not attempt to spell his name) back.
 
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Russell Jaslow said:
Are you kidding me? Our medical infrastructure is crap.

We can't even test people, while South Korea is testing people at a rate of 10,000 (maybe 20,000) people a day.

Our hospitals flat out don't have the capacity to handle a huge influx of critical need patients. We don't have the ICU beds nor the ventilators in those numbers. Our medical infrastructure runs at a capacity of 95-97% which from a just-in-time business perspective is fantastic. But, from a critical long term medical surge, it's terrible.

And don't even get me started how this is all going to get paid for and how many people won't get tested or treated for fear of how much it's going to cost them.

My brother is working with the task force in the State of Washington. They are begging the federal government for supplies, and they are not getting enough. This is a procedural disaster in the making. Talk to any medical person working in a hospital. They all say we are not equipped to handle this.
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Just for the sake of context, I'm a career (35 year) RRT, working in the ICU setting with intubated patients.

A few years ago, when SARS was a thing, FEMA came to us with a few $37K ventilators (3, to be exact), and strongly advised my department to establish a rather Draconian protocol as to who we'd use them on. (To wit, a hard age-cliff, a hard co-morbidity cliff, etc.)

It didn't happen then, but it's going to happen this time around.

I'm not a fan of Andrew Cuomo in a general sense, but he got out way ahead of this as compared to that willfully ignorant moron who delivered another mindless rally today.
 
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Ok now it’s a free for all,,, Florida Senate votes 37-2 in favor of bill proclaiming FSU D1 Basketball National Champions!!! (By Default),,, like for real,,, Very important business ,,, and how bout those two no votes, (Gator alumni )
 
golightning77 said:
Ok now it’s a free for all,,, Florida Senate votes 37-2 in favor of bill proclaiming FSU D1 Basketball National Champions!!! (By Default),,, like for real,,, Very important business ,,, and how bout those two no votes, (Gator alumni )
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Come on Vermont!

For some context, Alabama claims like 18 national championships in football. The NCAA recognizes like 11 of them.
 
Russell Jaslow said:
Doesn’t USC also claim more than what the NCAA recognizes? (And I’m a USC fan.)
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Quite a few schools do. Wikipedia has a pretty good breakdown of championships claimed by school. Pretty much, back in the pre-BCS days, finishing the season as #1 in even the most obscure of polls prompted a school to claim a national championship. Sometimes the seasons weren't even finished, as the final polls were released before the bowl games.
 
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