mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers
the D are such pu$$ies
the D are such pu$$ies
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2020 Democratic Challengers
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers
I hope our nominee is somebody 50% of voters could not name right now. I'd actually go further and say I hope our nominee is somebody neither of us could name right now. I have that little respect for the Democratic party as currently constituted.
We need to push the useful geriatrics into the back room and let them do their work, and we need to flush out all the other geriatrics. The GOP won in part because they were perceived as "doing something" and as having some energy. Our gerontology ward in Congress and on the campaign trail is an enormous liability. We have all the right ideas but our messengers do not inspire anybody.
I hope our nominee is somebody 50% of voters could not name right now. I'd actually go further and say I hope our nominee is somebody neither of us could name right now. I have that little respect for the Democratic party as currently constituted.
We need to push the useful geriatrics into the back room and let them do their work, and we need to flush out all the other geriatrics. The GOP won in part because they were perceived as "doing something" and as having some energy. Our gerontology ward in Congress and on the campaign trail is an enormous liability. We have all the right ideas but our messengers do not inspire anybody.
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers
This is more true than anybody in the DCCC or DSCC understands. Every Republican in my office says "we're getting our mining and steel jobs back and our economy is finally coming back after being in the toilet with Obama." They live in a land of make believe but they all live in it so it becomes reality. That's what Roger Ailes understood: just lie. Don't even bother massaging or selectively editing the truth. Just lie. Whoever calls you on it, say they're lying.
It's a perfect system.
This is more true than anybody in the DCCC or DSCC understands. Every Republican in my office says "we're getting our mining and steel jobs back and our economy is finally coming back after being in the toilet with Obama." They live in a land of make believe but they all live in it so it becomes reality. That's what Roger Ailes understood: just lie. Don't even bother massaging or selectively editing the truth. Just lie. Whoever calls you on it, say they're lying.
It's a perfect system.
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers
With my preferred candidate out now, I'm going to sit back and either let somebody wow me or see who has the best chance to win. Position wise Dems are like 95% in lockstep on issues, so I'm not too concerned about that. Its going to be more of who can articulate those positions in a clear and concise manner for a low interest electorate. As an aside, I also think we need a nutcutter who will neuter Chump and stuff his balls down his throat. I want someone who will call out and attack the GOP in its entirety as the corrupt money laundering treasonous cult that it is!
Age doesn't matter to me. If 77? year old Joe Biden is crushing it in the primaries and in general election polling than I'd happily support the dude.
That works up to a point. We were told for years that we were winning in Iraq and the war was almost over. That lie flew for awhile but eventually voters got sick of being BS'd to their face and kicked the GOP completely out of power. Likewise Chump can say mining and steel jobs are coming back, but if they don't eventually voters will tire of being lied to. Not that these Chump voters will all suddenly become Dems but reinforces the perception that Trump is insane and doesn't know his a sshole from a hole in the ground.
With my preferred candidate out now, I'm going to sit back and either let somebody wow me or see who has the best chance to win. Position wise Dems are like 95% in lockstep on issues, so I'm not too concerned about that. Its going to be more of who can articulate those positions in a clear and concise manner for a low interest electorate. As an aside, I also think we need a nutcutter who will neuter Chump and stuff his balls down his throat. I want someone who will call out and attack the GOP in its entirety as the corrupt money laundering treasonous cult that it is!
Age doesn't matter to me. If 77? year old Joe Biden is crushing it in the primaries and in general election polling than I'd happily support the dude.
That works up to a point. We were told for years that we were winning in Iraq and the war was almost over. That lie flew for awhile but eventually voters got sick of being BS'd to their face and kicked the GOP completely out of power. Likewise Chump can say mining and steel jobs are coming back, but if they don't eventually voters will tire of being lied to. Not that these Chump voters will all suddenly become Dems but reinforces the perception that Trump is insane and doesn't know his a sshole from a hole in the ground.
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FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers
Bernie could be in federal PYitAP by 2020 if he ends up being part of this Russia thing.
Bernie could be in federal PYitAP by 2020 if he ends up being part of this Russia thing.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
More likely than not your nominee will be someone who’s name 50% of the voters can’t pronounce..... and will be DOA
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers
You guys should be smarter than to get your news from a braindead moron like joe, who not surprisingly, was too dumb to grasp the nuance of what Warren said.
Watch the actual Meet the Press interview. It's very clearly "I am not running for president(right now)". She gets pressed multiple times to vow that she will serve her entire six-year term if re-elected to Congress and gives non-answers every time. I'm not sure how anyone can watch that interview and come away with any other impression than that she is absolutely running for president in a couple years.
You guys should be smarter than to get your news from a braindead moron like joe, who not surprisingly, was too dumb to grasp the nuance of what Warren said.
Watch the actual Meet the Press interview. It's very clearly "I am not running for president(right now)". She gets pressed multiple times to vow that she will serve her entire six-year term if re-elected to Congress and gives non-answers every time. I'm not sure how anyone can watch that interview and come away with any other impression than that she is absolutely running for president in a couple years.
Thank you for the compliment. Unlike you, apparently, I have a sense of humor and am a fan of sarcasm and deadly puns and/or bon mots.
You take your side waaaayyyy to seriously. And similar to 41, your posts are full of hate. While that may keep you alive, it does not well serve this board.
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers
I think Bernie's wife is more likely to end up in The House of Striped Sunshine over ripping off that college in Burlington than Bernie is.
Bernie could be in federal PYitAP by 2020 if he ends up being part of this Russia thing.
I think Bernie's wife is more likely to end up in The House of Striped Sunshine over ripping off that college in Burlington than Bernie is.
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers
Age matters to me because having a non-geriatric who can look normal on TV is just another bonus against a 74 year old orange baboon.
Age matters to me because having a non-geriatric who can look normal on TV is just another bonus against a 74 year old orange baboon.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers
I actually think it's a rather likely scenario that none of the current prospects ends up with the nom.
I actually think it's a rather likely scenario that none of the current prospects ends up with the nom.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers
Me too. None of them were able to build organizations last time with the Clintonistas sucking all the air out of the room. Now that the witch is dead we are due for a forest fire to burn off all the deadwood.
Me too. None of them were able to build organizations last time with the Clintonistas sucking all the air out of the room. Now that the witch is dead we are due for a forest fire to burn off all the deadwood.
Auto da Fey?
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers
The author should've stopped to consider how foolish that article is going to sound in a decade. I don't really care what people think of the Clintons at the moment. Sure, 1/3 to 1/2 of the party is presently spitting on them, but over time a majority of those people will come to their senses.
The author should've stopped to consider how foolish that article is going to sound in a decade. I don't really care what people think of the Clintons at the moment. Sure, 1/3 to 1/2 of the party is presently spitting on them, but over time a majority of those people will come to their senses.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers
Nobody denies Bill was a very important part of the Democratic effort in the 90s. But she wasn't and their attempted coronation hurt both the party and more obviously the country.
Everybody knew even at his height that the Clintons were always about the Clintons. When we could use them for our ends, that was fine. But the last decade it just got in our way and f-cked things up. No doubt once they are safely in the ground there will be a massive beatification, because dead heroes serve a purpose.
Nobody denies Bill was a very important part of the Democratic effort in the 90s. But she wasn't and their attempted coronation hurt both the party and more obviously the country.
Everybody knew even at his height that the Clintons were always about the Clintons. When we could use them for our ends, that was fine. But the last decade it just got in our way and f-cked things up. No doubt once they are safely in the ground there will be a massive beatification, because dead heroes serve a purpose.
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told an overseas audience this week that her 2016 election loss came at the hands of "backwards"-looking voters who "didn't like black people getting rights" or women in the workplace.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/12/hillary-clinton-overseas-trump-won-backwards-voter
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers
This is also correct.
Too many people in this country want the 50's back. Good luck to you all.
That's not inaccurate. In fact you can choose one of any of the hundreds of reasons and just run with it at any time and not be wrong.
This is also correct.
Too many people in this country want the 50's back. Good luck to you all.
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