2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

[Handyman]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

Yeah and if you thought for 2 seconds you would have known I didnt say bikes were the problem, it was part of a description of how liberal Minneapolis is. The bikes lanes did screw up the streets (I lived in Uptown when they redid them it was a mess) but Minneapolis wanted them so whatever. That you cant pick up pretty obvious context in a simple post tells me it might be time for you to go back to school and take Rhetoric or something.

Literally the only one who didnt get it was you...

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

The Howard Stern interview with Hillary Clinton (It's on Youtube) is fascinating. It's no wonder everyone hates her.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

The Howard Stern interview with Hillary Clinton (It's on Youtube) is fascinating. It's no wonder everyone hates her.

CNN wants us to think she DESTROYED Bernie in the interview.

 

[trixR4kids]

CNN wants us to think she DESTROYED Bernie in the interview.

CNN SUCKS! CNN SUCKS!

One of few things I agree with Trumpers on.

Yeah and if you thought for 2 seconds you would have known I didnt say bikes were the problem, it was part of a description of how liberal Minneapolis is. The bikes lanes did screw up the streets (I lived in Uptown when they redid them it was a mess) but Minneapolis wanted them so whatever. That you cant pick up pretty obvious context in a simple post tells me it might be time for you to go back to school and take Rhetoric or something.

Literally the only one who didnt get it was you...

Well the problem is when we're talking about something like the national debt and the, "sacrifices that need to be made", I really don't see how bike lanes or Lance Armstrong wannabes have anything to do with the conversation. If you were making a joke that flew over my head or something then I'll fully admit to not getting it. Encouraging more biking/use of public transit and less driving is a good thing but I'll fully admit that I mostly avoid uptown like the plague and that it does suck to drive through when I have to (have one buddy who lives there that I sometimes watch hockey or hang out at Lyle's with).

The debt doesn't need to be paid down to $0 overnight or really ever for that matter so long as it doesn't impede our ability to finance government expenditures. And the obvious way to do it is by raising taxes on those who have constantly had it cut for zero logical reason other than greed. And certain expenditures can yield positive gains in terms of lowering the debt while also restoring peoples' faith in government so those really aren't sacrifices that should be made anyhow.

 

[Handyman]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

CNN SUCKS! CNN SUCKS!

One of few things I agree with Trumpers on.


Well the problem is when we're talking about something like the national debt and the, "sacrifices that need to be made", I really don't see how bike lanes or Lance Armstrong wannabes have anything to do with the conversation. If you were making a joke that flew over my head or something then I'll fully admit to not getting it. Encouraging more biking/use of public transit and less driving is a good thing but I'll fully admit that I mostly avoid uptown like the plague and that it does suck to drive through when I have to (have one buddy who lives there that I sometimes watch hockey or hang out at Lyle's with).

The debt doesn't need to be paid down to $0 overnight or really ever for that matter so long as it doesn't impede our ability to finance government expenditures. And the obvious way to do it is by raising taxes on those who have constantly had it cut for zero logical reason other than greed. And certain expenditures can yield positive gains in terms of lowering the debt while also restoring peoples' faith in government so those really aren't sacrifices that should be made anyhow.

The bike lane comment is only there to illustrate that Minneapolis is liberal. It isnt some commentary on what causes the debt. The point is that even in places where the majority of people are left leaning progressives (Minneapolis, especially Uptown are about as strong a Blue area as you can get) they still dont always want to make economic sacrifices. They will cry and whine about their taxes in the same breathe they whine about how the roads suck.

The point is that Left or Right, people are greedy. Those of us saying "Raise my taxes, I will take on the burden" are the exception, not the rule in this country. People want theirs, they always have and they always will and it doesnt matter what side of the aisle they are on.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

The bike lane comment is only there to illustrate that Minneapolis is liberal. It isnt some commentary on what causes the debt. The point is that even in places where the majority of people are left leaning progressives (Minneapolis, especially Uptown are about as strong a Blue area as you can get) they still dont always want to make economic sacrifices. They will cry and whine about their taxes in the same breathe they whine about how the roads suck.

The point is that Left or Right, people are greedy. Those of us saying "Raise my taxes, I will take on the burden" are the exception, not the rule in this country. People want theirs, they always have and they always will and it doesnt matter what side of the aisle they are on.

They can raise my taxes. Even though if I had the option I would gladly leave.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

So apparently the hot new line of attack on "Mayo" Pete is that we don't get to know which projects he worked on at McKinsey because of his NDA. Since McKinsey was recently revealed to have advised ICE and/or CBP on border issues, that automatically means "Mayo" Pete somehow masterminded caging and starving kids, or something else that makes him as bad as Dump.

 

[trixR4kids]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

The fact that he had the choice of literally anywhere to work with a Harvard degree and chose McKinsey says enough on its own.

 

[unofan]

So apparently the hot new line of attack on "Mayo" Pete is that we don't get to know which projects he worked on at McKinsey because of his NDA. Since McKinsey was recently revealed to have advised ICE and/or CBP on border issues, that automatically means "Mayo" Pete somehow masterminded caging and starving kids, or something else that makes him as bad as Dump.

I particularly like the editorial board of the NYT all but telling him to violate the NDA because the public needs to know. Yeah, that's not how contacts work. Next they'll ask Warren to violate attorney-client privilege because the voters need to know.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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The fact that he had the choice of literally anywhere to work with a Harvard degree and chose McKinsey says enough on its own.

The fact that you think working for McKinsey (or similar firms) automatically makes someone T3H DEVIL!11!!11 says a lot more about you and your biases than it does about Pete.

Now gimme your watch so I can tell you the time and send you a bill for it.

 

[trixR4kids]

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No it really doesn’t, McKinsey is awful and has contributed to the opioid crisis, various genocides, and pretty much every awful thing capitalism has caused. You’re either completely naive to that fact if you work there or you do it anyway fully recognizing that fact, neither of which is a good quality for a presidential candidate. But this is the guy who thinks Vietnam was an innocent mistake.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

No it really doesn’t, McKinsey is awful and has contributed to the opioid crisis, various genocides, and pretty much every awful thing capitalism has caused. You’re either completely naive to that fact if you work there or you do it anyway fully recognizing that fact, neither of which is a good quality for a presidential candidate and further proof that the guy is a sociopath.

I worked at one of their top competitors. I didn’t often know what other people were working on in other industries.
Lots of other companies and our own government have contributed to all the atrocities you’ve mentioned above. Spare us the time and tell us where it is ok to have worked.

Has Pete’s spouse been convicted of fraud yet, btw?

 

[Handyman]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

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[trixR4kids]

I worked at one of their top competitors. I didn’t often know what other people were working on in other industries.
Lots of other companies and our own government have contributed to all the atrocities you’ve mentioned above. Spare us the time and tell us where it is ok to have worked.

Yeah and someone with a Harvard degree has more responsibility and opportunity to make the world a better place rather than actively worsening it and knowingly working for a company that figured out new ways to pump more opioids into poor communities while also counseling dictators worldwide. Not every company does that lmao but keep making excuses for the sociopath.

And nobody in this race has a wife convicted of anything that I’m aware of.

 

[mookie1995]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

No it really doesn’t, McKinsey is awful and has contributed to the opioid crisis, various genocides, and pretty much every awful thing capitalism has caused. You’re either completely naive to that fact if you work there or you do it anyway fully recognizing that fact, neither of which is a good quality for a presidential candidate. But this is the guy who thinks Vietnam was an innocent mistake.

what good is this rant if trix doesn't include the saudi hitlist creation?!!?

 

[trixR4kids]

what good is this rant if trix doesn't include the saudi hitlist creation?!!?

from his book re that topic

I think you have a lot of smart, well-intentioned people who sometimes view the world in a very innocent way. I wrote my thesis on Graham Greene, who said that innocence is like a dumb leper that has lost his bell, wandering the world, meaning no harm.

Yeah ok Pete.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Yeah and someone with a Harvard degree has more responsibility and opportunity to make the world a better place rather than actively worsening it and knowingly working for a company that figured out new ways to pump more opioids into poor communities while also counseling dictators worldwide. Not every company does that lmao but keep making excuses for the sociopath.

And nobody in this race has a wife convicted of anything that I’m aware of.

Don’t look up where a lot of Harvard grads are, it will depress you.

 

[trixR4kids]

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I don’t doubt that.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Yeah and someone with a Harvard degree has more responsibility and opportunity to make the world a better place...

No they don't. Graduating from an Ivy usually means you spent too much money on your business degree so you could network with and possibly marry other rich schlubs.

 

[trixR4kids]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

On that point you’re dead on.