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2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

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The Rube said:
So 3 different states (maybe up to 5) will decide the election if we go to popular vote. You think the flyovers would have any real say? BTW, for sale: bridge in the NY area, great value.
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If it's where THE PEOPLE LIVE then who gives a sh-t?

And here's the other thing, your 3-5 states number (which is wrong BTW) is bogus because it implies a sweep of those states by one party. If those states are swept by one party that party is also going to win the EC in a landslide, because those states aren't weird, they match plenty of other states demographically. CA is similar to OR, WA, NM, and HI. NY is similar to all of New England plus the Mid-Atlantic. TX -- remember, you're giving us TX in this scenario, is similar to NV, AZ and CO.

The EC is being protected for one reason only: to undemocratically advance the agenda of the GOP. Full stop. That's all this BS is for.
 
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The Rube said:
So 3 different states (maybe up to 5) will decide the election if we go to popular vote. You think the flyovers would have any real say? BTW, for sale: bridge in the NY area, great value.
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As opposed to now, when three different states (maybe up to five) will decide the election.
 
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Kepler said:
You have drawn the wrong conclusions from 2016. Hillary didn't lose because Democrats stayed home for a woman. Every moron who thinks a man should be President is already a Republican.

The electorate has bifurcated. The racists and sexists are all R now because that's where their fan service is. Those white men who remain D are the ones who have functional brains. The bozos and monsters who wouldn't vote for a woman are going to vote straight ticket R for the rest of their lives because they should -- that's where they belong.
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Hillary lost because of the "anyone but Hillary" voters. I've always said this. I have never blamed the stay-at-home Dems. Ever.
 
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The Rube said:
Hillary lost because of the "anyone but Hillary" voters. I've always said this. I have never blamed the stay-at-home Dems. Ever.
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Then you just refuted your argument because "anyone but Hillary" includes women other than Hillary.
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Exactly. And every conservative acts like this pertains to CA NY only while they ignore Texas.
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I'd say CA, NY, TX, and maybe FLA and Penn/ILL.

Note that I never said which party would win, I simply stated that different states would be the deciding factor.
 
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Kepler said:
Then you just refuted your argument because "anyone but Hillary" includes women other than Hillary.
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I did not refute. The devil is in the details. Hillary in particular is a specific and peculiar case, since she's, well, Hillary. She was polarizing. That being said, someone like Warren, I don't think America would go for her, because she's a woman. Full stop. Hillary had other issues that she brought into the race, which affected her run. Right or wrong, that's what happened.
 
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The Rube said:
I did not refute. The devil is in the details. Hillary in particular is a specific and peculiar case, since she's, well, Hillary. She was polarizing. That being said, someone like Warren, I don't think America would go for her, because she's a woman. Full stop. Hillary had other issues that she brought into the race, which affected her run. Right or wrong, that's what happened.
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You are mistaking Republicans for America. We won't convince any Republicans because they are beyond hope, so cut them out of the picture. Outside of them nobody is going to oppose a woman as president because she's a woman. That brain damage no longer operates outside R.
 
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Kepler said:
You are mistaking Republicans for America. We won't convince any Republicans because they are beyond hope, so cut them out of the picture. Outside of them nobody is going to oppose a woman as president because she's a woman. That brain damage no longer operates outside R.
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The Bernouts would like to have a word with you. ;)
 
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The Rube said:
The Bernouts would like to have a word with you. ;)
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Hi. I'm a Bernie Bro. First of all, more Bernie supporters voted for Hillary in 2016 than Hillary supporters voted for Barack Obama in 2008. Second of all, those who didn't vote for her didn't do so because she's a woman. We did so because she's a neo-liberal corporate shill. Almost all of us would be quite ecstatic to vote for Elizabeth Warren, or even Tulsi Gabbard, if they win the nomination. By your logic, we should all be very supportive of Joe Biden because he's an old white guy, too. In case you haven't noticed, we don't like him very much.
 
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ticapnews said:
Hi. I'm a Bernie Bro. First of all, more Bernie supporters voted for Hillary in 2016 than Hillary supporters voted for Barack Obama in 2008. Second of all, those who didn't vote for her didn't do so because she's a woman. We did so because she's a neo-liberal corporate shill. Almost all of us would be quite ecstatic to vote for Elizabeth Warren, or even Tulsi Gabbard, if they win the nomination. By your logic, we should all be very supportive of Joe Biden because he's an old white guy, too. In case you haven't noticed, we don't like him very much.
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No one should like Joe, unless you're a MAGA (good chance of winning re-election).
 
The Rube said:
And again, I point out that Hillary (the ONE female candidate that wasn't destroyed) didn't win. America will not vote in a woman president, yet. I stress yet. So, insert a female Veep. Warm America up to the idea that a female can be president. Flip some of the indies. Flip some of those "anyone but Hillary" types. Then really make a move.
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Except for a handful of votes in 3 states, America sure seemed damm ready to elect a female president.

Don't worry, the Indies are flipping. Those "anyone but Hillary" types are just like you, as Kepler said, portraying an electorate based on what Republicans think. Stop being brainwashed by them.

They did it to you on Hillary for 30 years, and you just gobbled it right up. As the sane, centrist, point of view.
 
The Rube said:
So 3 different states (maybe up to 5) will decide the election if we go to popular vote. You think the flyovers would have any real say? BTW, for sale: bridge in the NY area, great value.
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3 different states decided the last election. Not even 3 different states. A population count smaller than the city of Portland, Maine.

That's who you want making decisions for the entire country?
 
rufus said:
3 different states decided the last election. Not even 3 different states. A population count smaller than the city of Portland, Maine.

That's who you want making decisions for the entire country?
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That's what I remembered too. It came down to three *counties,* one in Michigan, one in Florida, and I forget where the third was. Flip those three *counties,* and that flipped each state.
 
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Kepler said:
Brazil is the leading producer of orange juice and their people are way hotter.
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While their hottest might be 1.5x as hot, their ugliest are 2.5x as ugly. Also see: Philippines, Thailand, Costa Rica, Israel...
 
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Slap Shot said:
While their hottest might be 1.5x as hot
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Um, no. Have you seen Brazilians? Their normal distribution barely overlaps ours. We have a large Brazilian expat pop in MD/VA. Every girl is a super model starting at 15 and lasting past 60. A Brazilian 4 is an American 9.
 
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Did something happen today because the "Bernie Bots" are all over Twitter right now. I havent read this much deification since Hebrew School ;)
 
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Handyman said:
Did something happen today because the "Bernie Bots" are all over Twitter right now. I havent read this much deification since Hebrew School ;)
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Nate Silver's hot take that there's only 2 running in the top tier and Sanders is in the 2nd tier, probably
 
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