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2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
As does Fade, but to put this into Mookie terms :p (And how a lot of women seem to be reading this), Biden pulled a Michelle Kwan and bobbled it, so now it's about hot nurses.
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the 1950s called.... they want there nurses back :D
 
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Handyman said:
Oh good lord...people need to lighten up.
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Agreed. I read it as nurses being there to offer you psychological support, not some dumb "naughty nurses" reference.

I guess Joe has brought it on himself, though. He has that "haw haw" country club vibe about him.

All the more reason to send him to Shady Acres.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
They do, but you know as well as I do this was awful for him. And we're not even Biden fans, FFS!
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Oh no, this was the stuff I knew would get him in trouble the last time everyone wanted him to run. Dem voters are just too big of wussies to not let it be a big deal. Rodney Dangerfield is too edgy for some of these people ;)
 
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Kepler said:
Agreed. I read it as nurses being there to offer you psychological support, not some dumb "naughty nurses" reference.

I guess Joe has brought it on himself, though. He has that "haw haw" country club vibe about him.

All the more reason to send him to Shady Acres.
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I read it as a naughty nurses line...and it made me laugh because it is something my grandpa would have said. You can feel him winking as he says it.

Is it a bit insensitive...yeah. So bleeping what!?! The Dems seem to have lost their sense of humor in the last 20 years. Not every joke is a national friggin tragedy. Just because it makes you giggle doesnt make you a bad person.

We truly are becoming PCU. Where is Parliament Funkadelic and Fat Jon Favreau with dread locks to save us?!?!
 
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Handyman said:
Oh no, this was the stuff I knew would get him in trouble the last time everyone wanted him to run. Dem voters are just too big of wussies to not let it be a big deal. Rodney Dangerfield is too edgy for some of these people ;)
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More proof though that anyone who thinks "both sides are the same..." is dead wrong. The standard bearer for the republican party actually sexually assaults women and brags about it and nobody in his party gives the first, second or last 5h!t about it. An elder statesman for the democratic party makes a linguistic boo-boo that some may mistake for a condescending way of looking at nurses (who they may also assume are women) and some democrats want to hang him for it. If democratic politicians did hypocrisy as well as their republican counterparts (and if democratic-leaning voters were as susceptible to it) they'd win 90% of the elections.
 
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If this was some one-off for Biden it'd be one thing but his issues with women go a lot deeper than that and ceding the moral high ground to Republicans doesn't exactly seem like a great strategy.
 
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trixR4kids said:
If this was some one-off for Biden it'd be one thing but his issues with women go a lot deeper than that and ceding the moral high ground to Republicans doesn't exactly seem like a great strategy.
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if Biden had the hots for men you Lefties would be singing his praise as if it was the second coming
 
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We know pokey here can't think beyond the tip of his penis, and even that's a mythological concept.
 
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trixR4kids said:
If this was some one-off for Biden it'd be one thing but his issues with women go a lot deeper than that and ceding the moral high ground to Republicans doesn't exactly seem like a great strategy.
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So talking about how people tend to think nurses are hot is ceding the moral high ground? Are you on acid? The GOP candidate rapes people and brags about assaulting them...Biden made a nurse joke that is probably as old as he is. Talk about equivocating. I doubt even most nurses thought what he said was bad.

Jesus Christ to think Don Rickles was a Democrat.

Seriously the Twitter Caucus needs to get down off their White Guilt Horse and just let some stuff go. If you think this stuff is helping, you havent been paying attention. There are 12 bajillion reasons to think Biden is the wrong candidate, this comment isnt one of them.
 
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I see Handy didn't read a post and reacted to it again lmao. Yes, the only issue Biden has IRT women is one thing he said about nurses one time... -_-
 
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If you're a comedian you get to make sexist or racist jokes because the whole bit is you are making fun of the sexists and racists who will tell them unironically.

If you're a non-comedian, you get to make those jokes but you consider the environment. For example, you can't make them at work.

A politician is always at work. A candidate a hundred times so.

You don't make that joke. Not right now in the heart of #metoo. Not while the present occupant of the White House is a misogynist rapist. And for god's sake not when you have sexist behavior problems in your past.

Use some f-cking common sense. Joe Biden doesn't get to play the "lighten up, Francis" card here.
 
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Exactly. I'd expect that line from Jim Jefferies not Joe Biden.
 
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Handyman said:
Seriously the Twitter Caucus needs to get down off their White Guilt Horse and just let some stuff go. If you think this stuff is helping, you havent been paying attention. There are 12 bajillion reasons to think Biden is the wrong candidate, this comment isnt one of them.
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A lot of progressives think it is helping. I refuse to ride the White Middle Class Straight Middle Aged Male guilt horse (in fact mine had a broken leg so I had him put down) and my unwillingness to do so is likely the reason I am not going to be working for the organization I am employed by much longer.

I am as far to the left (or further) on every issue of substance that is supposed to matter, like taxation, immigration, criminal justice reform, LGBTQIA (and whatever additional letters/numbers have been added this week) equality and humanity, education, healthcare and anything else progressives claim to care about as anyone in my organization. The only one I lag behind on is 2nd amendment issues on even on that I have evolved a thousand years from where I was a decade ago.

But because I refuse to play the PC game when it comes to a lot of it and because I refuse to spend time on my knees begging forgiveness for my white straight male privilege (something I also accept and acknowledge as completely real and continuing to this day) I am perceived as not just less supportive of the goals around here but openly hostile to them. It's why I hate identity politics and why a lot of people who look like me gave up on democrats and the liberal movement a generation ago. It's also why the liberals are not running the show in 2019.
 
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Kepler said:
If you're a comedian you get to make sexist or racist jokes because the whole bit is you are making fun of the sexists and racists who will tell them unironically.

If you're a non-comedian, you get to make those jokes but you consider the environment. For example, you can't make them at work.

A politician is always at work. A candidate a hundred times so.

You don't make that joke. Not right now in the heart of #metoo. Not while the present occupant of the White House is a misogynist rapist. And for god's sake not when you have sexist behavior problems in your past.

Use some f-cking common sense. Joe Biden doesn't get to play the "lighten up, Francis" card here.
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This makes valid points. And since perception is reality, it is probably what smart, capable politicians should be doing. I also think we as liberals over react like it is a part of our DNA when it comes to anything perceived as a put-down, and that is the variable I'd like to see change. I'd also like to see Notre Dame win a hockey title, so I guess we don't get everything we want.
 
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Joe Biden isnt...a Democratic Voter (his employer) is. And let me tell you something this is the crap that gets Democrats in trouble.

BTW I googled this story...not much out there. But if you type a search for "Biden Nurses" you get articles of him praising nurses, especially hospice ones going back quite a bit of ways. Once again the outrage is all on twitter it would seem.

Again there are 12 bajillion reasons to go after Biden...you start attacking him for this stuff over the legit stuff and it will help him more than it hurts him in the long run.
 
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