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2020 Democratic Challengers III: Weekend at Bernie's
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trixR4kids
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Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: Weekend at Bernie's
I believe in the progressive wing of the party to fix more problems in this country and I believe in the centrists to do less harm than the derper party. Whether it's the debt that you pretend to care about, the environment, anything related to science for that matter, not getting involved in more endless wars that only cause more suffering, not making the country more undemocratic than it already is, slowing the growth of income for the 1%, or anything related to racism and immigration, the centrists are at the very least slightly better on all of these issues even if I have various critiques of them. Saying both sides are to blame on when one is pouring a garden hose on the fire and the other is pouring gas on it is silly.
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: Weekend at Bernie's
Kepler's not to blame, even though he may dream he has such influence.
I've asked this question before on this board. Has anyone ever wondered why candidates from the Democratic party, nationwide, struggle to even achieve 50% of the popular vote? Think about it. The positions they espouse should be extremely popular. You want to tax into submission the 1% holding most of the wealth in this country. You want to hold wall street and corporations' feet to the fire in terms of regulation. You favor a relaxed view of personal rights compared with the right. Jeebus, you should be getting 85% of the vote.
You know why you don't? YOU'RE DIKKS! (I don't mean you, literally. I'm referring in general to the populace of the left). You're a bunch of obnoxious, paternalistic, condescending, snarky, smartest guys in the room twats that just aren't that likeable. You're basically a bunch of Greg Marmalards scrambling around running for class president. 50% of the country doesn't like you, personally, because of your attitude towards the rest of us, so why vote for you no matter what you promise? And the meaner you get, the more you call the other side racist, fascist, deplorable, etc..., the more the heals will get dug in until it won't matter what you say, you will never receive their vote.
Now, maybe you can still carry 50% of the vote, +1, and win the elections and control the country. We're actually probably better off if that happens. But don't treat people like s*** and then act surprised when they don't vote for you.
Kepler's not to blame, even though he may dream he has such influence.
I've asked this question before on this board. Has anyone ever wondered why candidates from the Democratic party, nationwide, struggle to even achieve 50% of the popular vote? Think about it. The positions they espouse should be extremely popular. You want to tax into submission the 1% holding most of the wealth in this country. You want to hold wall street and corporations' feet to the fire in terms of regulation. You favor a relaxed view of personal rights compared with the right. Jeebus, you should be getting 85% of the vote.
You know why you don't? YOU'RE DIKKS! (I don't mean you, literally. I'm referring in general to the populace of the left). You're a bunch of obnoxious, paternalistic, condescending, snarky, smartest guys in the room twats that just aren't that likeable. You're basically a bunch of Greg Marmalards scrambling around running for class president. 50% of the country doesn't like you, personally, because of your attitude towards the rest of us, so why vote for you no matter what you promise? And the meaner you get, the more you call the other side racist, fascist, deplorable, etc..., the more the heals will get dug in until it won't matter what you say, you will never receive their vote.
Now, maybe you can still carry 50% of the vote, +1, and win the elections and control the country. We're actually probably better off if that happens. But don't treat people like s*** and then act surprised when they don't vote for you.
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: Weekend at Bernie's
That back flaring up this morning, Hovey?
That back flaring up this morning, Hovey?
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: Weekend at Bernie's
Yes, exactly, and Trump, Paul Ryan, Turtle Boy, Dick Cheney, and the rest of them are so ****ing likeable. I mean, what the **** isn't to like about Trump?
The 35% of morons need never ever ever be placated too. Clinton called them deplorable. She was being nice.
Yes, exactly, and Trump, Paul Ryan, Turtle Boy, Dick Cheney, and the rest of them are so ****ing likeable. I mean, what the **** isn't to like about Trump?
The 35% of morons need never ever ever be placated too. Clinton called them deplorable. She was being nice.
trixR4kids
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Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: Weekend at Bernie's
As far as "treating people like ****" it's mostly backlash against the majority of your party that thinks Obama is a secret Muslim, Hillary operates a criminal enterprise from a pizza shop, and believe whichever brown "other" of the day is causing all the problems in our society. Those people aren't going to be changed and there's no reason to even try. With the people closer to the center who can have an intelligent conversation it's a different story.
How are you measuring this though? Hillary was a uniquely terrible candidate who got over 50%. If you're talking all the down ballot races and combining them or something then that's a different story.
As far as "treating people like ****" it's mostly backlash against the majority of your party that thinks Obama is a secret Muslim, Hillary operates a criminal enterprise from a pizza shop, and believe whichever brown "other" of the day is causing all the problems in our society. Those people aren't going to be changed and there's no reason to even try. With the people closer to the center who can have an intelligent conversation it's a different story.
trixR4kids
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Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: Weekend at Bernie's
bUt dEmS nEeD tO Be nIcEr
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump uses racist, hateful and extreme rhetoric and it is radicalizing his supporters: <a href="https://t.co/zd7Qfgj6jb">pic.twitter.com/zd7Qfgj6jb</a></p>— Ryan Knight ���� (@ProudResister) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProudResister/status/1095545165291253760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just attended my first <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realDonaldTrump</a> rally where my colleague BBC cameraman Rob Skeans was attacked by a Trump supporter. The crowd had been whipped up into a frenzy against the media by Trump and other speakers all night <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TrumpElPaso?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TrumpElPaso</a> <a href="https://t.co/Oiw8osPms3">pic.twitter.com/Oiw8osPms3</a></p>— Eleanor Montague (@EleanorMontague) <a href="https://twitter.com/EleanorMontague/status/1095194973602045952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2019</a></blockquote>
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bUt dEmS nEeD tO Be nIcEr
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump uses racist, hateful and extreme rhetoric and it is radicalizing his supporters: <a href="https://t.co/zd7Qfgj6jb">pic.twitter.com/zd7Qfgj6jb</a></p>— Ryan Knight ���� (@ProudResister) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProudResister/status/1095545165291253760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just attended my first <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realDonaldTrump</a> rally where my colleague BBC cameraman Rob Skeans was attacked by a Trump supporter. The crowd had been whipped up into a frenzy against the media by Trump and other speakers all night <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TrumpElPaso?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TrumpElPaso</a> <a href="https://t.co/Oiw8osPms3">pic.twitter.com/Oiw8osPms3</a></p>— Eleanor Montague (@EleanorMontague) <a href="https://twitter.com/EleanorMontague/status/1095194973602045952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2019</a></blockquote>
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ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: Weekend at Bernie's
He's so likeable. That's why he won.
He's so likeable. That's why he won.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: Weekend at Bernie's
Greg Marmalarde was a Republican
And your whole thesis dies at the end. The GOP has been treating people like [bleep] for years and people still vote for them. The Dems may look down on people but at least they usually do what is in the people's best interest. The GOP condescends to people, lies to them, steals from them and THEN bends them over the barrel.
So no offense, but if people are too stupid to realize the annoying no it all lawyer who is defending them is better than the date rapist who violates them then constantly then they get what they deserve.
Greg Marmalarde was a Republican
And your whole thesis dies at the end. The GOP has been treating people like [bleep] for years and people still vote for them. The Dems may look down on people but at least they usually do what is in the people's best interest. The GOP condescends to people, lies to them, steals from them and THEN bends them over the barrel.
So no offense, but if people are too stupid to realize the annoying no it all lawyer who is defending them is better than the date rapist who violates them then constantly then they get what they deserve.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: Weekend at Bernie's
Yeah but is he a know it all? See if Dems just were dumber that guy and the crowd at the rally would support them more.
I mean no that isnt true at all, but hey whatever.
You know I rail against elitism all the time but when it comes right down to it, I want elites to be in charge because they actually know what they are doing. The GOP is proof of what happens when the children are left in charge cause the parents quit trying. The GOP are the ******** kids who grew up rich and whose parents let them get away with murder all their life. They bought their way into an elite school, slept their way to a worthless degree and had daddy get them a job. They have never had to answer to anyone and they dont give a crap about anyone who isnt exactly like them. Yet somehow, they have convinced a lot of blue collar people they actually know the plight they live in and care about it...
Yeah but is he a know it all? See if Dems just were dumber that guy and the crowd at the rally would support them more.
I mean no that isnt true at all, but hey whatever.
You know I rail against elitism all the time but when it comes right down to it, I want elites to be in charge because they actually know what they are doing. The GOP is proof of what happens when the children are left in charge cause the parents quit trying. The GOP are the ******** kids who grew up rich and whose parents let them get away with murder all their life. They bought their way into an elite school, slept their way to a worthless degree and had daddy get them a job. They have never had to answer to anyone and they dont give a crap about anyone who isnt exactly like them. Yet somehow, they have convinced a lot of blue collar people they actually know the plight they live in and care about it...
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: Weekend at Bernie's
It actually is! That was a boatload of snow I had to shovel yesterday.
It actually is! That was a boatload of snow I had to shovel yesterday.
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: Weekend at Bernie's
Yeah, the Republican party has been treating a good chunk of the country very badly too. That's why they're only good for about 50% when lucky. That's what you get when you act that way. The 50% that you treat badly will have nothing to do with you. But someone wondered why all the Republicans aren't going to flock to the Democratic side, even though a lunatic will be representing the head of the Republican ticket. Why? He's their lunatic.
Greg Marmalarde was a Republican
And your whole thesis dies at the end. The GOP has been treating people like [bleep] for years and people still vote for them. The Dems may look down on people but at least they usually do what is in the people's best interest. The GOP condescends to people, lies to them, steals from them and THEN bends them over the barrel.
So no offense, but if people are too stupid to realize the annoying no it all lawyer who is defending them is better than the date rapist who violates them then constantly then they get what they deserve.
Yeah, the Republican party has been treating a good chunk of the country very badly too. That's why they're only good for about 50% when lucky. That's what you get when you act that way. The 50% that you treat badly will have nothing to do with you. But someone wondered why all the Republicans aren't going to flock to the Democratic side, even though a lunatic will be representing the head of the Republican ticket. Why? He's their lunatic.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: Weekend at Bernie's
That's because we're teaching our people to use their emotions instead of their brains. If you vote based on how you "feel" you're getting the exact government you deserve. The Wall is the perfect example. Numbers are down at the border to in some cases historic lows. Yet we are spending every last ounce of energy on the ****ing border.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/30/key-findings-about-u-s-immigrants/
Lindsey Graham and Turtle Boy can die in a fire with what they said yesterday. THIS IS A NON ISSUE. WORK ON SOMETHING THAT MATTERS.
That's because we're teaching our people to use their emotions instead of their brains. If you vote based on how you "feel" you're getting the exact government you deserve. The Wall is the perfect example. Numbers are down at the border to in some cases historic lows. Yet we are spending every last ounce of energy on the ****ing border.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/30/key-findings-about-u-s-immigrants/
Lindsey Graham and Turtle Boy can die in a fire with what they said yesterday. THIS IS A NON ISSUE. WORK ON SOMETHING THAT MATTERS.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Euro socialism, obviously.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: Weekend at Bernie's
Yep, I'm just a dick who likes dead babies, taxing rich people, and laughing at those fcking hicks from the middle of the country.
Sometimes, it's best to just play the part they framed you for.
Yep, I'm just a dick who likes dead babies, taxing rich people, and laughing at those fcking hicks from the middle of the country.
Sometimes, it's best to just play the part they framed you for.
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But it’s ok to hate gays, trans, and Arabs!
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: Weekend at Bernie's
Of course. And Mexicans.
Of course. And Mexicans.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: Weekend at Bernie's
Everytime I run into Trump supporters now, I brag about my desire to bring back the 90% tax bracket, and make miscegenation mandatory for white women.
Everytime I run into Trump supporters now, I brag about my desire to bring back the 90% tax bracket, and make miscegenation mandatory for white women.
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: Weekend at Bernie's
Hate to be anywhere near Hovey, but there's a point there somewhere.
The Trump Rs have been jerks. That's why they don't have 50%. The Rs have 40%. And that's why the Rs got wiped out in the midterms.
If the Ds act the same way...guess what happens? Rather than 60%, the Ds suddenly have 40%. The Ds just have to stay the course and accept the masses that are now clinging to the side of our lifeboat - rather than pushing them into the sea and losing to Trump in 2020. We should be concerned with maximizing the 2020 win rather than deciding who we're kicking out of the tent. By kicking some out of the tent...we gain 100% of Mass. and lose PA, MI, WI and IA.
Hate to be anywhere near Hovey, but there's a point there somewhere.
The Trump Rs have been jerks. That's why they don't have 50%. The Rs have 40%. And that's why the Rs got wiped out in the midterms.
If the Ds act the same way...guess what happens? Rather than 60%, the Ds suddenly have 40%. The Ds just have to stay the course and accept the masses that are now clinging to the side of our lifeboat - rather than pushing them into the sea and losing to Trump in 2020. We should be concerned with maximizing the 2020 win rather than deciding who we're kicking out of the tent. By kicking some out of the tent...we gain 100% of Mass. and lose PA, MI, WI and IA.
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