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2020 Democratic Challengers: Boogaloo

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trixR4kids said:
Meh, the voter suppression done by Republicans had a far greater effect than anything Russia did. And she was a historically bad candidate.
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Bernie couldn't win over African-Americans, a not insignificant block of Democratic votes. That was why Hillary won the nomination.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Higher taxes on the rich pays the bills. Paying the bills is small c.
Government Run Health Care will save money in the long run and decrease costs. Small c.
Regulation of any industry done correctly. Not too much, not too little is small c.
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You've got an odd definition of conservatism scoobs but okay.
 
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unofan said:
Today's moderate D was a Rockefeller Republican 25-50 years ago.

Lest you forget, Nixon created the EPA.
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Lest I forget because it happened before I was born and I'm no spring chicken. Rockefeller Republicanism is as relevant to today's GOP as Abe Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt is. 25 years ago was 1994 and Newt Gingrich and Tom DeLay weren't moderates...
 
Rover said:
Lest I forget because it happened before I was born and I'm no spring chicken. Rockefeller Republicanism is as relevant to today's GOP as Abe Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt is.
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And small 'c' conservatism is as relevant to today's GOP as Lincoln or Teddy. Yet that's what were talking about.
 
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Rover said:
The point was the Russians ability to keep nothingburger stories in the news (unless you think there WAS something to Hillary's e-mails trix) and time them perfectly to distract from Trump's blunders by using both social media and manipulating the national media (see the NY Times for example).

Had Bernie been the nominee the now known widespread sexual harassment going on in his campaign would have been front and center in the news and instead of an effort to keep blacks and lefties home the Russians would have used that to keep women home. There's also be a constant barrage of his wife being under a federal investigation at the time for ripping off a college in Burlington, as well as how Sanders didn't seem to have a steady job until like age 40 when elected mayor of Burlington so how was he supporting himself for the 20 years after college. You still subscribe to the Bernie as the Messiah schtick which is amusing to say the least.
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Bingo.
 
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Rover said:
The point was the Russians ability to keep nothingburger stories in the news (unless you think there WAS something to Hillary's e-mails trix) and time them perfectly to distract from Trump's blunders by using both social media and manipulating the national media (see the NY Times for example).
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There obviously wasn't much to the whole email thing but that was propagated by Comey more than the Russians anyhow and it'd been well known for a while.

Had Bernie been the nominee the now known widespread sexual harassment going on in his campaign would have been front and center in the news and instead of an effort to keep blacks and lefties home the Russians would have used that to keep women home.
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His campaign manager creepily hit on some girl after the election... oh man!

There's also be a constant barrage of his wife being under a federal investigation at the time for ripping off a college in Burlington, as well as how Sanders didn't seem to have a steady job until like age 40 when elected mayor of Burlington so how was he supporting himself for the 20 years after college. You still subscribe to the Bernie as the Messiah schtick which is amusing to say the least.
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I guess if you think centrists think that his wife = him then sure but then that'd go against your theory that only "Bernie bros" are misogynists.
 
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I'm sure this is the first time ever that sexual harassment has happened during a campaign.
 
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trixR4kids said:
I'm sure this is the first time ever that sexual harassment has happened during a campaign.
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Yes trix, and I'm sure the Russians and the Republicans would have had the exact same take as you, and would have left all of this alone during the campaign.... :rolleyes: Oh, lets not the forget too that the media would have refused to give it air time as well! :D
 
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If you think Bernie has the same amount of baggage as like 25 years of Republican hype machine on Hillary you're delusional.

Anyhow she's not running in 2020 and even Biden could probably beat Trump.
 
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trixR4kids said:
If you think Bernie has the same amount of baggage as like 25 years of Republican hype machine on Hillary you're delusional.

Anyhow she's not running in 2020 and even Biden could probably beat Trump.
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Hillary also had approximately 143x the qualifications old man river did.
 
trixR4kids said:
Well we all know how well that worked.
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Maybe if Bernie could've gotten a single vote from a black person, he would've gotten the nomination. In the meantime, this Monday morning quarterbacking 2 farking years later is asinine.

Move the Fark on, already.
 
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unofan said:
Maybe if Bernie could've gotten a single vote from a black person, he would've gotten the nomination. In the meantime, this Monday morning quarterbacking 2 farking years later is asinine.

Move the Fark on, already.
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You're the idiot who keeps repeating a completely untrue trope about black voters that I've debunked like 100 times but yeah I should move on :D
 
trixR4kids said:
You're the idiot who keeps repeating a completely untrue trope about black voters that I've debunked like 100 times but yeah I should move on :D
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You haven't debunked shiat. Bernie had minimal support from African American voters, and that cost him the nomination.
 
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