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2019 B1G Tournament

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Slap Shot said:
How much would it cost to air the games on secondary BTN channels?
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This is one of the bigger BTN mysteries. Three alternate channels and not only do they not fill those all the way during football season, they only use them during football season, even putting basketball onto Plus.
 
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Hockeybuckeye said:
Every time that topic comes up every Ohio State fan here has conflicting opinions on how big or small it should be. It never ends!
Supposedly they had a long term plan on a new sports complex but it would involve tearing down multiple buildings including St.John Arena which nobody wants to see go!
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Why not put the high school tourneys in St. John?

I remember last year Nationwide was a nice alternative for the hockey playoff game.
 
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wolverineTrumpet said:
Why not put the high school tourneys in St. John?

I remember last year Nationwide was a nice alternative for the hockey playoff game.
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We were fortunate Nationwide was available, not always the case.
Also with the state basketball tournament they have boys and girls with 4 different divisions so 8 championship games to be played. They need multiple facilities so putting them all in St.John Arena doesn't work.
If we were hosting a B1G hockey tournament game this weekend it would not be at the Schott - state wrestling tournament there this weekend.
Ohio State will not hold the Schott for their own team when they do not know if we will need it when scheduling has to be done because it could cost them to lose money renting it out for the high school crap. Plus I believe OSU and the OHSAA have a multi year contract.
 
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Hockeybuckeye said:
We were fortunate Nationwide was available, not always the case.
Also with the state basketball tournament they have boys and girls with 4 different divisions so 8 championship games to be played. They need multiple facilities so putting them all in St.John Arena doesn't work.
If we were hosting a B1G hockey tournament game this weekend it would not be at the Schott - state wrestling tournament there this weekend.
Ohio State will not hold the Schott for their own team when they do not know if we will need it when scheduling has to be done because it could cost them to lose money renting it out for the high school crap. Plus I believe OSU and the OHSAA have a multi year contract.
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What did OSU, and for that matter UW, do before in the CCHA and WCHA? Not to single both out, but rumor was it was the Buckeyes and Badgers who pushed back against doing 2 out of 3 for the first two weekends, or 2 out of 3 for the first round and a four team tournament for the semis and final.

Or did neither school host basketball/wrestling until B1G Hockey started?
 
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Spartanforlife4 said:
What did OSU, and for that matter UW, do before in the CCHA and WCHA? Not to single both out, but rumor was it was the Buckeyes and Badgers who pushed back against doing 2 out of 3 for the first two weekends, or 2 out of 3 for the first round and a four team tournament for the semis and final.

Or did neither school host basketball/wrestling until B1G Hockey started?
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Ohio State hosted 3 series from 2007-2013 at the Ice Rink it only seats like 800 or so
 
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Hockeybuckeye said:
We were fortunate Nationwide was available, not always the case.
Also with the state basketball tournament they have boys and girls with 4 different divisions so 8 championship games to be played. They need multiple facilities so putting them all in St.John Arena doesn't work.
If we were hosting a B1G hockey tournament game this weekend it would not be at the Schott - state wrestling tournament there this weekend.
Ohio State will not hold the Schott for their own team when they do not know if we will need it when scheduling has to be done because it could cost them to lose money renting it out for the high school crap. Plus I believe OSU and the OHSAA have a multi year contract.
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Basketball is over 2 weekends they could play it in St John if they wanted to but im sure the Ohsaa would just move it out of columbus
 
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Spartanforlife4 said:
Or did neither school host basketball/wrestling until B1G Hockey started?
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It was worse in the CCHA era. The CCHA pretty much had no pull or influence on the University whatsoever. I may ask Fred Pletsch more about that when I run into him next. But as klbaum said, they'd just shamelessly shove us back into the old barn.
Nowadays I think they would actually feel embarrassed if the world saw us on the B1G Network hosting a game in the old barn so they try to avoid that happening but there may not always be available options. When they list the Schott as a multi-use facility that means everybody gets to use it before we do!
That being said, with the program's growing success under Coach Rohlik we may finally no longer be the ugly red-headed stepchild of Ohio State Athletics.
 
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I turned on the women's B1G bouncy ball tournament briefly last night to see basically an empty arena so my question is what attendance numbers do they go by to justify them being on the B1G Network over hockey?
Also I wonder if and how TV sponsorship may factor in money wise between the two and how much it weighs in on which gets the regular broadcast vs streaming?
 
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Hockeybuckeye said:
I turned on the women's B1G bouncy ball tournament briefly last night to see basically an empty arena so my question is what attendance numbers do they go by to justify them being on the B1G Network over hockey?
Also I wonder if and how TV sponsorship may factor in money wise between the two and how much it weighs in on which gets the regular broadcast vs streaming?
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Zero idea of if, or how, it plays into it, but I pointed out elsewhere that there are 14 regular B1G members with WBB and only 6 with M Hockey. That may be a factor.
 
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Bonin21 said:
Clearly more than the incremental revenue
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The B7 makes mega millions every year on FB and BB, surely they could spare $100,000 or so to show us these games on the the alternate channels. They payout 30 to 50 MILLION every year to the member schools alone, not taking into account what they leave in their own bank accounts. This is a complete disservice to all the hockey member schools.
 
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Hockeybuckeye said:
I turned on the women's B1G bouncy ball tournament briefly last night to see basically an empty arena so my question is what attendance numbers do they go by to justify them being on the B1G Network over hockey?
Also I wonder if and how TV sponsorship may factor in money wise between the two and how much it weighs in on which gets the regular broadcast vs streaming?
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I have heard Women's basketball has better viewership than college hockey.
 
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4four4 said:
I have heard Women's basketball has better viewership than college hockey.
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I'm certain the average women's basketball game draws more viewers than the average NCAA hockey game. I don't have my archives in front of me so I can't remember which game it was, but a fairly recent NCAA hockey tournament game had just 50,000 viewers. An audience that small is barely measurable and is fewer viewers that what would get, essentially, a zero rating. It isn't even measured using the same methods that tell us how many millions of people watched the latest episode of the Big Bang Theory. Some of the audience for women's basketball is also literally accidental. A viewer flipping channels sees "college basketball," maybe with a name brand college, and they stop and watch. By the time they decide they don't want to watch women, they've been registered as viewing it. That helps their ratings. Our name brand teams are mostly teams that don't compete in football or men's basketball, so no one is even curious. Denver versus Minnesota Duluth? We all know we might have a great contest, and one that matters throughout the world of college hockey. But that is a tiny, tiny world.
 
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A lot of the contracts for the big $$ sports basically have a rider that requires the channel to also show some hockey. College hockey is a complete afterthought, and if the channels had a choice, they wouldn't show it at all.
 
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Spartanforlife4 said:
This is one of the bigger BTN mysteries. Three alternate channels and not only do they not fill those all the way during football season, they only use them during football season, even putting basketball onto Plus.
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I'll never understand this. As you stated, all those unused alternate channels on my cable network. You'd think they could just air a student broadcast at the very least (if it's that expensive to produce).
 
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Well at least I was able to watch the Michigan/Minnesota game without costing me money. Not a bad game but I hate to say Michigan is their own worst enemy when it comes to taking penalties at the worst time. And if Hughes doesn't play the next game it may be goodnight Michigan.
 
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3 one goal games tonight more of the same tomorrow and a couple game 3's i would bet on sunday.
 
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