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2019-20 Michigan Tech Season Thread. Broetzman has us off to a Bliss-ful start!

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Most recovered is a great statistic. But that is mostly because we have the most cases.

My real point, that I assumed (and wished) I wouldn't have to spell out, is why would you point out Chinese professors and students. What difference does that make?

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I just looked at the Michigan data. Houghton (county) only had 2 cases (out of the 48k in Michigan). Tech is essentially in a perfect isolation zone.

Seems like a much easier situation to control, compared to other campuses.

So, why does Michigan have such a high mortality rate? It’s much, much higher than where I live.

https://www.michigan.gov/coronavirus/0,9753,7-406-98163_98173---,00.html
 
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I just looked at the Michigan data. Houghton only had 2 cases (out of the 48k in Michigan). Tech is essentially in a perfect isolation zone.

Seems like a much easier situation to control, compared to other campuses.

So, why does Michigan have such a high mortality rate? It’s much, much higher than where I live.

Yes Tech is in a good spot right now. The concern is bringing in thousands of students from areas that have been hit harder than the Keweenaw and putting them in tight living quarters and crowded classrooms.

The virus has proven to spread rapidly in nursing homes and prisons with tight living quarters.

I understand that college students are in better general health than seniors in nursing homes. There are more cases (still a low percentage) of younger and otherwise healthy COVID patients and they can very well be asymptomatic carriers that could infect professors and other university employees who could then bring it to the community in general.

It is a tough debate on how to coexist with this virus. In my non-professional opinion we shouldn't be taking unneccessary risks that could cause a second wave that many experts predict could be much worst than the current wave. I don't know what benefit is worth that risk. I guess we will all have to find that risk level for ourselves.

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Yes Tech is in a good spot right now. The concern is bringing in thousands of students from areas that have been hit harder than the Keweenaw and putting them in tight living quarters and crowded classrooms.

The virus has proven to spread rapidly in nursing homes and prisons with tight living quarters.

I understand that college students are in better general health than seniors in nursing homes. There are more cases (still a low percentage) of younger and otherwise healthy COVID patients and they can very well be asymptomatic carriers that could infect professors and other university employees who could then bring it to the community in general.

It is a tough debate on how to coexist with this virus. In my non-professional opinion we shouldn't be taking unneccessary risks that could cause a second wave that many experts predict could be much worst than the current wave. I don't know what benefit is worth that risk. I guess we will all have to find that risk level for ourselves.

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I get it. There are a limited number of stores, etc in the area. Hard to separate students and old folks. Not trying to stir this debate, just curious why Michigan is having such a hard time.

Those downstate numbers will affect Tech’s opening.
 
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Most recovered is a great statistic. But that is mostly because we have the most cases.
My real point, that I assumed (and wished) I wouldn't have to spell out, is why would you point out Chinese professors and students. What difference does that make?
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Do you only take bits of info, omitting the "not sure its pertinent" part you left out? There was a break, some people traveled during some not and where travel was.
 
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I just looked at the Michigan data. Houghton (county) only had 2 cases (out of the 48k in Michigan). Tech is essentially in a perfect isolation zone.

Seems like a much easier situation to control, compared to other campuses.

So, why does Michigan have such a high mortality rate? It’s much, much higher than where I live.

https://www.michigan.gov/coronavirus/0,9753,7-406-98163_98173---,00.html

I think you need to look at density for one as you see the county stats. They were going to break it down by zip code BUT that was stopped and not allowed. Though I could be wrong my hunch it might be more telling if that was seen.
 
I think you need to look at density for one as you see the county stats. They were going to break it down by zip code BUT that was stopped and not allowed. Though I could be wrong my hunch it might be more telling if that was seen.

10 percent mortality rate (statewide) is independent of population density. And is worse than almost everywhere else, states, other countries...
 
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10 percent mortality rate (statewide) is independent of population density. And is worse than almost everywhere else, states, other countries...

It is disappointing that I have to point this out on a Michigan Tech thread, given that Tech students are typically good critical thinkers with good math skills...BUT...the mortality rate is NOT 10% unless the entire population was tested. The reality is that most people are/were never tested unless they had quite severe or significant symptoms. For every tested person confirmed to have the virus, there could be 10 or more people with COVID-19 with milder symptoms who were never tested / confirmed...which would correspond to an actual morality rate of 1% or less.

I'm not trying to downplay the suffering and harsh reality of what this virus is and how it has affected (even ended) many lives, but we have to also think rationally and stop thinking like some of the irresponsible media outlets want us to think with their drama, fear mongering and misleading figures all for the sake of ratings and ad revenue.

Stay smart people. Let's tackle this challenge with real facts like engineers!
 
Re: 2019-20 Michigan Tech Season Thread. Broetzman has us off to a Bliss-ful start!

It is disappointing that I have to point this out on a Michigan Tech thread, given that Tech students are typically good critical thinkers with good math skills...BUT...the mortality rate is NOT 10% unless the entire population was tested. The reality is that most people are/were never tested unless they had quite severe or significant symptoms. For every tested person confirmed to have the virus, there could be 10 or more people with COVID-19 with milder symptoms who were never tested / confirmed...which would correspond to an actual morality rate of 1% or less.

I'm not trying to downplay the suffering and harsh reality of what this virus is and how it has affected (even ended) many lives, but we have to also think rationally and stop thinking like some of the irresponsible media outlets want us to think with their drama, fear mongering and misleading figures all for the sake of ratings and ad revenue.

Stay smart people. Let's tackle this challenge with real facts like engineers!

Ok, so let's look at the facts. We still don't have enough test based on infectious disease/statistical modeling experts recommendations. Without that, most current data is conjecture at best. What the metadata is suggesting is if you are an older person with pre-existing conditions there is significant risk of serious additional long term health implications or death. Again we can argue about percentages, but without a communicated and agreed standardized way to collect and organize data we will never know the real numbers.

Since we don't know the real numbers, we need to use mathematical models. Based on the data we do have, Covid-19 is considered a highly contagious, highly infectious virus that statistically no one has immunity to. Our scientific community isn't proposing anything that Japan or South Korea (two countries that have managed this much better and longer than we have) didn't do. Fact, wearing a mask (as much as personally I hate it) reduces the spread. Fact, washing your hands and not touching your face lowers your risk of infection. Fact, staying home as much as possible lowers the risk of infection. Fact, social distancing of 6' or 2 meters reduces the risk of spreading the virus. Our health experts and successful foreign countries have recommended these things to manage the virus.

We also have the benefit of learning what works (laying on one's stomach to help breath) and what doesn't (hydroxychloroquine) to improve patient outcomes.

If you want to blame the US media, there is enough on both sides to go around. They have to make money and the easiest way to do that is telling people what they want to hear. I challenge you to look at various states and how other countries are successfully managing and reacting to this. The international scientific community had the same mind and opinion about this and how to stop/manage it. The politicians,... no comment because this is a hockey board and I'm sure someone would be offended, if they aren't already.

Stay safe, look at scientific sources, wear your mask in public, and wash your hands!

Go Tech.
 
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Ok, so let's look at the facts. We still don't have enough test based on infectious disease/statistical modeling experts recommendations. Without that, most current data is conjecture at best. What the metadata is suggesting is if you are an older person with pre-existing conditions there is significant risk of serious additional long term health implications or death. Again we can argue about percentages, but without a communicated and agreed standardized way to collect and organize data we will never know the real numbers.

Since we don't know the real numbers, we need to use mathematical models. Based on the data we do have, Covid-19 is considered a highly contagious, highly infectious virus that statistically no one has immunity to. Our scientific community isn't proposing anything that Japan or South Korea (two countries that have managed this much better and longer than we have) didn't do. Fact, wearing a mask (as much as personally I hate it) reduces the spread. Fact, washing your hands and not touching your face lowers your risk of infection. Fact, staying home as much as possible lowers the risk of infection. Fact, social distancing of 6' or 2 meters reduces the risk of spreading the virus. Our health experts and successful foreign countries have recommended these things to manage the virus.

We also have the benefit of learning what works (laying on one's stomach to help breath) and what doesn't (hydroxychloroquine) to improve patient outcomes.

If you want to blame the US media, there is enough on both sides to go around. They have to make money and the easiest way to do that is telling people what they want to hear. I challenge you to look at various states and how other countries are successfully managing and reacting to this. The international scientific community had the same mind and opinion about this and how to stop/manage it. The politicians,... no comment because this is a hockey board and I'm sure someone would be offended, if they aren't already.

Stay safe, look at scientific sources, wear your mask in public, and wash your hands!

Go Tech.

So let's say for the sake of argument that we do start classes and we reduce the class sizes and do every social distance recommended thing. The problem is that even with all that, the health care system in Houghton is not prepared to handle very many cases. Even what would be a small number in some downstate county would be horrible in Houghton. Second, Houghton as someone alluded to, would be a great spot for a robust contact tracing scheme. that's what could allow the school to open normally, but honestly, you'd need a lot more testing than we are doing now and it's questionable if this will happen.
Back a month ago, all the leaders of the Traverse City and surrounding communities were pressuring the governor to prohibit people from Metro Detroit from coming there for this reason. The community health system would be overwhelmed easily. IMHO that reason hasn't gone away.
 
Re: 2019-20 Michigan Tech Season Thread. Broetzman has us off to a Bliss-ful start!

Per his Twitter/Instagram, Jamie Phillips is retiring from pro hockey. Will return to Tech to pursue his M.S. and serve as goalie coach.
 
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From MTU :

The Voice of the Huskies, Mix 93.5 FM WKMJ, has recently won three awards from the Michigan Association of Broadcasters in the Commercial Radio Market 4 category.

The station received a Play-By-Play Sports award for the 2019 Miner's Cup Broadcast of the Michigan Tech and Northern Michigan football game. The Huskies won 24-20 to secure the cup for the 10th straight season. Josh Ylitalo broadcasted the game from Kearly Stadium with former Husky Brett Gervais. Ylitalo has been calling Tech football games since 2012.

Dirk Hembroff also received a pair of awards from the MAB for his 6-10 a.m. weekday show The Dirkside. Hembroff received Morning Show Broadcast Personality award and a Sports award for his daily sports update. Hembroff hosts the Joe Shawhan Hour on Mondays and Huskies Drivetime on Tuesdays throughout the season on his show. Hembroff has been the voice of the hockey huskies for 18 years.

Mitch Lake is also employed by the radio station and has been calling Michigan Tech basketball games on the radio since the early 1980s. He is also the public address voice of Kearly Stadium during football games and the John MacInnes Student Ice Arena during Tech hockey games.
 
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Please. don't. turn. this. into. another. COVID. site.

Jamie Phillips is indeed a welcome return!
 
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From MTU :

The Voice of the Huskies, Mix 93.5 FM WKMJ, has recently won three awards from the Michigan Association of Broadcasters in the Commercial Radio Market 4 category.

The station received a Play-By-Play Sports award for the 2019 Miner's Cup Broadcast of the Michigan Tech and Northern Michigan football game. The Huskies won 24-20 to secure the cup for the 10th straight season. Josh Ylitalo broadcasted the game from Kearly Stadium with former Husky Brett Gervais. Ylitalo has been calling Tech football games since 2012.

Dirk Hembroff also received a pair of awards from the MAB for his 6-10 a.m. weekday show The Dirkside. Hembroff received Morning Show Broadcast Personality award and a Sports award for his daily sports update. Hembroff hosts the Joe Shawhan Hour on Mondays and Huskies Drivetime on Tuesdays throughout the season on his show. Hembroff has been the voice of the hockey huskies for 18 years.

Mitch Lake is also employed by the radio station and has been calling Michigan Tech basketball games on the radio since the early 1980s. He is also the public address voice of Kearly Stadium during football games and the John MacInnes Student Ice Arena during Tech hockey games.

Congrats to them. It is well deserved!

Welcome back Jamie. Nice addition to the staff.
 
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Remember back, a conversation about the current upside and speculation when / if Tech could compete for a frozen 4, looking back at the lineup for the Broadmoor win struck my short term memory a bit, Luch on the third line, Neville just a team critical piece player with big moment guys like Jake Jackson, and L'Esperance. Depth solid support with Sturos and Heinonen.
The D just loaded with 5 of maybe the best to play Tech for years.
Then, the Beef on a magical run.

Now comes the debate that the next 2 years offers the program the best chance for a frozen 4 in years. Big moment guys like Tommy P, Bliss, Halonen, and Broetzman with rock solid support with Logan Pietila, Ganie, and Saretsky. Will Blake Pietila take the starters job and not give any playing time to anybody else.
Do we have a second iteration of the D with Gotz, Datema, Swoyer, and Lipe leading the way. The team guys Misiak and Reitmeier who keep supplying clutch plays. With Bantle, the Kukkonens, and the recruits signed, I sure wish we could have got the data point of that Mankato playoff series, but expect a whole lot more fun on its way!
 
From MTU :

The Voice of the Huskies, Mix 93.5 FM WKMJ, has recently won three awards from the Michigan Association of Broadcasters in the Commercial Radio Market 4 category.

The station received a Play-By-Play Sports award for the 2019 Miner's Cup Broadcast of the Michigan Tech and Northern Michigan football game. The Huskies won 24-20 to secure the cup for the 10th straight season. Josh Ylitalo broadcasted the game from Kearly Stadium with former Husky Brett Gervais. Ylitalo has been calling Tech football games since 2012.

Dirk Hembroff also received a pair of awards from the MAB for his 6-10 a.m. weekday show The Dirkside. Hembroff received Morning Show Broadcast Personality award and a Sports award for his daily sports update. Hembroff hosts the Joe Shawhan Hour on Mondays and Huskies Drivetime on Tuesdays throughout the season on his show. Hembroff has been the voice of the hockey huskies for 18 years.

Mitch Lake is also employed by the radio station and has been calling Michigan Tech basketball games on the radio since the early 1980s. He is also the public address voice of Kearly Stadium during football games and the John MacInnes Student Ice Arena during Tech hockey games.
Congratulations!
 
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