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2019-20 Michigan Tech Season Thread. Broetzman has us off to a Bliss-ful start!

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Lost_Husky said:
The Packy experience was a mixed bag, but you get that out of any recruit. (I have a feeling Joe and staff learned a lot.)
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Here is a video of "Pucky" back in the US this past season and stirring the pot once again. The more I see him, the more I think "head case." As he is skating back to the bench on a delayed penalty he checks a player from the opposing team and starts a brawl in the ECHL. Fast forward to 3:47 if necessary (it should start at this point).
https://youtu.be/FCdlStKiJoE?t=229
 
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Eventually, schools like Tech will need to protect scholarships. Have contracts with a non-compete clause, like business recruiting. It’s becoming a business, treat it like one.
 
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Redridge said:
Eventually, schools like Tech will need to protect scholarships. Have contracts with a non-compete clause, like business recruiting. It’s becoming a business, treat it like one.
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Really has been a business just not been treated like one.
 
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Redridge said:
Eventually, schools like Tech will need to protect scholarships. Have contracts with a non-compete clause, like business recruiting. It’s becoming a business, treat it like one.
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I'm seriously dismayed by this and I think it bodes badly for future teams but having said that, if you are a 3ed line player on a big school team that has tons of guys sitting on the sidelines, do you worry every year who might transfer in and take your slot for next year?
 
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manurespreader said:
I'm seriously dismayed by this and I think it bodes badly for future teams but having said that, if you are a 3ed line player on a big school team that has tons of guys sitting on the sidelines, do you worry every year who might transfer in and take your slot for next year?
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It is all about ice time. There is only so much of it to go around. Unless a player is at the university for a degree, players will move to get ice time.

I'm not too worried about it. Hockey deals with guys going pro. A guy transferring isn't all that different.
 
Lost_Husky said:
It is all about ice time. There is only so much of it to go around. Unless a player is at the university for a degree, players will move to get ice time.

I'm not too worried about it. Hockey deals with guys going pro. A guy transferring isn't all that different.
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Players leaving early evened things out. Big schools have historically been able to recruit a lot more high profile players, but they had shorter duration on campus. Smaller schools have been able to compete with a lot more 4 year players, with a few that develop into the leaders.

The balance will come undone, if the 4 year players that develop at small schools are able to “move up” after a couple....
 
Redridge said:
Players leaving early evened things out. Big schools have historically been able to recruit a lot more high profile players, but they had shorter duration on campus. Smaller schools have been able to compete with a lot more 4 year players, with a few that develop into the leaders.

The balance will come undone, if the 4 year players that develop at small schools are able to “move up” after a couple....
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How can you allow them to move down, but not move up? How do you define “big school” and apply the term fairly? Enrollment? Budget? Endowment?
 
davyd83 said:
How can you allow them to move down, but not move up? How do you define “big school” and apply the term fairly? Enrollment? Budget? Endowment?
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. BIG? The Ralph seats 16k. Ivy League has good parchment. I’ve heard some schools have girls... The point was that there is a draw for every player. If it’s a one time thing, I agree we will be fine. But the landscape of brick and mortar schools is about to change and we will need to be adaptive.
 
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Redridge said:
. BIG? The Ralph seats 16k. Ivy League has good parchment. I’ve heard some schools have girls... The point was that there is a draw for every player. If it’s a one time thing, I agree we will be fine. But the landscape of brick and mortar schools is about to change and we will need to be adaptive.
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I have a huge worry that D-I sports as a feeder for professional leagues is going to go away (football aside) out of this and all the other forces surrounding the development of young men [1] for the next level. Since we all know that "the next level" for so many of these fellas is the workplace, I do prefer the college route to the major junior route given the standard outcomes of MJ alumni who don't make it professionally. But if college sports takes a huge hit and has universities rethinking its value for marketing and building culture at their schools, despite the cost, the opportunities for these guys to make it in college and develop in their early 20s into players capable of high-end professional skill [2], then we're going to lose a lot.

GFM

[1] Sadly, women's pro sport in the US is still not on solid footing outside of the WNBA.
[2] Insert your favorite example here. Mine is Cam Talbot.
 
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gfmorris said:
I have a huge worry that D-I sports as a feeder for professional leagues is going to go away (football aside) out of this and all the other forces surrounding the development of young men [1] for the next level. Since we all know that "the next level" for so many of these fellas is the workplace, I do prefer the college route to the major junior route given the standard outcomes of MJ alumni who don't make it professionally. But if college sports takes a huge hit and has universities rethinking its value for marketing and building culture at their schools, despite the cost, the opportunities for these guys to make it in college and develop in their early 20s into players capable of high-end professional skill [2], then we're going to lose a lot.

GFM

[1] Sadly, women's pro sport in the US is still not on solid footing outside of the WNBA.
[2] Insert your favorite example here. Mine is Cam Talbot.
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Why because of the NBA G league poaching a few basketball recruits?

Personally I think the NCAA hockey model is moving along. (It is concerning what is going on with UAX schools and how the rest of college hockey is more or less letting them die on the vine while they swoon over ULI, St Thomas speculation, Illinois flirt job, Oakland, and other yet unknown schools.) Two NCAA coaches are now head coach in the NHL and more and more players with NCAA commitment/ice time are being drafted and playing in the NHL.

For hockey things ebb and flow if they prefer college, major juniors, or international. I'm with you that I think for the sustainability of the league and players/potential players, the NCAA route gives them the most chance at professional hockey and professional life success.
 
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Oakland never had any serious intention of going D1, they were just taking the NHL's money to do the feasibility study. C'mon and take a free ride!
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Oakland never had any serious intention of going D1, they were just taking the NHL's money to do the feasibility study. C'mon and take a free ride!
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That was the point. College Hockey Inc is throwing money at "potential" schools while current programs struggle.
 
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Sol Diablo said:
I haven't seen the schedule but hopefully none of this amateurish behavior happens again when they meet up.
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I agree. IMHO nobody benefits and it hurts not only the schools but college hockey as a whole.

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Redridge said:
. BIG? The Ralph seats 16k. Ivy League has good parchment. I’ve heard some schools have girls... The point was that there is a draw for every player. If it’s a one time thing, I agree we will be fine. But the landscape of brick and mortar schools is about to change and we will need to be adaptive.
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The Ralph seat 11,643 for hockey.
 
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