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2018 Midterms 2: I Need A Drink!

Re: 2018 Midterms 2: I Need A Drink!

As I said the other day for as bad as the Senate turned out for the Dems everything else went sideways for them. The House Dems can now push the crazies to the side, the suburbs fled Trump like he was a drunk who shat his pants and his 3 State flip seems to have flipped back. Plus the Dems are on the right side of the one issue that even people in Red States voted for...Health Care. They cant run on the Boogeyman of ObamaCare anymore because Repeal and Replace was pimpslapped by the electorate.

Now the Dems need to hammer him and his moron party over it til 2020. They need to not take the bait on the little things he will try to distract them over (see: Jim Acosta) and just fix what needs to be fixed and investigate what needs to be investigated. Dont make the investigation your first thing because then you look petty...but as you work on "fixing" ObamaCare keep on calling witnesses and sending out subpoenas.

And Minnesota is not going Red.

But Scooby said....;)

Anyway, yes I agree. I find it funny when pundidiots say the Dems have no message aside from anti-Trump when by and large they ran their swing district races with nary a mention of him. Dems have two BIG issues to run on. 1) Healthcare, where the GOP is in total retreat, and 2) Voting rights. Both of these issues completely unify the Dem base from Manchin to Sanders and everyone in between. Everyone is in favor of the continued Medicaid expansion on the left, and on the right 3 more dark red states quietly voted via public referendum for expansion as well (Utah, Idaho and Nebraska). When its all said and done only 13 states will be left not taking part and I'd suspect Kansas (who's legislature passed a bill that Brownback vetoed) and Wisconsin may soon join them with Dem Gov's at the helm.
 
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But Scooby said....;)

Anyway, yes I agree. I find it funny when pundidiots say the Dems have no message aside from anti-Trump when by and large they ran their swing district races with nary a mention of him. Dems have two BIG issues to run on. 1) Healthcare, where the GOP is in total retreat, and 2) Voting rights. Both of these issues completely unify the Dem base from Manchin to Sanders and everyone in between. Everyone is in favor of the continued Medicaid expansion on the left, and on the right 3 more dark red states quietly voted via public referendum for expansion as well (Utah, Idaho and Nebraska). When its all said and done only 13 states will be left not taking part and I'd suspect Kansas (who's legislature passed a bill that Brownback vetoed) and Wisconsin may soon join them with Dem Gov's at the helm.

Minnesota got the House back. The Senate stayed Red. Minnesota also stayed 5-3 on Federal Reps. Which means we had (4) flips, two red, two blue. We may not be going red but we're not exorcising the demon either.
 
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Leave the benches open; clog the courts further; let Mitch eat the backlash from the litigants who are going unheard.

Shocking, what you would have done would have resulted in vacancies that were filled by Obama instead being filled by Trump. :rolleyes:

Hey, who cares if McConnell comes away with total victory, so long as he can't point the finger at me later!
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The House race in Georgia's 6th was called for Lucy McBath this morning. McBath's win over Republican Karen Handel flips the seat to Democrats. <a href="https://t.co/PxcYcshedx">https://t.co/PxcYcshedx</a> <a href="https://t.co/e4ySWNZzNm">pic.twitter.com/e4ySWNZzNm</a></p>— POLITICO (@politico) <a href="https://twitter.com/politico/status/1060578926051975168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Minnesota got the House back. The Senate stayed Red. Minnesota also stayed 5-3 on Federal Reps. Which means we had (4) flips, two red, two blue. We may not be going red but we're not exorcising the demon either.

Ummm....Scoobs the state Senate "stayed Red" because there was only 1 race on the ballot! Do you work for Fox News?
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">JUST IN: Gillum may ask for recount in Florida governor's race <a href="https://t.co/3vV8cMwVlr">https://t.co/3vV8cMwVlr</a> <a href="https://t.co/l5RubSkVhA">pic.twitter.com/l5RubSkVhA</a></p>— The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1060578701035880448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Oh goody...
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">JUST IN: Gillum may ask for recount in Florida governor's race <a href="https://t.co/3vV8cMwVlr">https://t.co/3vV8cMwVlr</a> <a href="https://t.co/l5RubSkVhA">pic.twitter.com/l5RubSkVhA</a></p>— The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1060578701035880448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Oh goody...

Sigh.
 
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Fair enough. Still disappointed we netted zero gains at the Federal Level.

Don't be. Minny did its job offsetting 2 probably losses by booting out 2 incumbent Goopers one of which was particularly loathsome. Then console yourself with a 35-40 seat pickup for Dems in the House, which is outstanding considering that extreme gerrymanders in places like OH, WI and NC stopped them from picking up any Congressional seats in these states. The North Carolina gerrymander isn't long for this world now that the Dems solidified their hold on the state Supreme Court. Time will tell on the other two (Dems would need to win another WI state supreme court seat IIRC before a lawsuit would prevail).
 
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I would rail against it...but its FL keep them busy so they dont bug the rest of us :D
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">JUST IN: Gillum may ask for recount in Florida governor's race <a href="https://t.co/3vV8cMwVlr">https://t.co/3vV8cMwVlr</a> <a href="https://t.co/l5RubSkVhA">pic.twitter.com/l5RubSkVhA</a></p>— The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1060578701035880448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Oh goody...

On the positive side they're both automatic now.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Those Florida races getting extremely tight:<br><br>Scott: 50.1%<br>Nelson: 49.9%<br><br>DeSantis: 49.6%<br>Gillum: 49.1%<br><br>Both currently within 0.5% margin to spark automatic recount.</p>— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) <a href="https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1060545135480594432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Fair enough. Still disappointed we netted zero gains at the Federal Level.
Do you mean overall?

House D+37
Gov D+7
State Leg Seats D+350
State Leg Chambers D+6

In Senate races we went 23-12. We'd have needed to go 25-10 just to hold serve.

This was a blue wave, it just wasn't a tsunami. I don't know what people expected.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">JUST IN: Gillum may ask for recount in Florida governor's race <a href="https://t.co/3vV8cMwVlr">https://t.co/3vV8cMwVlr</a> <a href="https://t.co/l5RubSkVhA">pic.twitter.com/l5RubSkVhA</a></p>— The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1060578701035880448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Oh goody...

Nothing says winning like losing twice :p
 
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On the positive side they're both automatic now.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Those Florida races getting extremely tight:<br><br>Scott: 50.1%<br>Nelson: 49.9%<br><br>DeSantis: 49.6%<br>Gillum: 49.1%<br><br>Both currently within 0.5% margin to spark automatic recount.</p>— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) <a href="https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1060545135480594432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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That senate race is nuts.
 
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Do you mean overall?

House D+37
Gov D+7
State Leg Seats D+350
State Leg Chambers D+6

In Senate races we went 23-12. We'd have needed to go 25-10 just to hold serve.

This was a blue wave, it just wasn't a tsunami. I don't know what people expected.

Exactly. It’s the state legislatures that matter at his point. Given the number of seats that separated us from republicans being able to rewrite the constitution, this was some much needed breathing room.
 
Re: 2018 Midterms 2: I Need A Drink!

Do you mean overall?

House D+37
Gov D+7
State Leg Seats D+350
State Leg Chambers D+6

In Senate races we went 23-12. We'd have needed to go 25-10 just to hold serve.

This was a blue wave, it just wasn't a tsunami. I don't know what people expected.

Minnesota stayed 5-3 for Federal Reps. We have one rural Dem left and when he retires that district will go full derp as well.
 
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In Senate races we went 23-12. We'd have needed to go 25-10 just to hold serve.

In the end, trying to extract a trend from the Senate results, versus the House results, in kind of pointless. With the House, you have everything up for grabs, so the end result is a decent correlation with what is happening (though maybe not perfect due to things like gerrymandering). With the Senate, you're trying to infer things off of a third; in this case, a really one-sided third; you're more comparing with 2006 and 2012, both really odd years, than you are with 2016.
 
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