Scott_TG
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Re: 2017 Women's World Championships
I would love to have seen them against this year's team or the 15-16 Cardinals
I would love to have seen them against this year's team or the 15-16 Cardinals
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2017 Women's World Championships
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Re: 2017 Women's World Championships
Just got tickets to the Gold Medal game. Good seats still available apparently. I will be curious to see how big of a crowd there is. Obviously I am hoping for a US/Canada match. With the girls nationals that weekend not far from the World's I would expect some decent crowds.
Just got tickets to the Gold Medal game. Good seats still available apparently. I will be curious to see how big of a crowd there is. Obviously I am hoping for a US/Canada match. With the girls nationals that weekend not far from the World's I would expect some decent crowds.
Re: 2017 Women's World Championships
http://www.usahockeyntdp.com/
In the fall the U18's play exhibition games against D1 men's teams, and then go on to play a regular schedule in the USHL. Currently they are in 8th place in the USHL's Eastern Conference.
http://www.ushl.com/view/#/team-stats
The NTDP team(s) are not to be confused with the USA National U18 Team that's put together each year to play in the U18 World Championship (most - but not all - of the USA National U18 Team members are selected from the NTDP U18 team).
Finally, there is the USA National Junior Team which is basically a U20 all-star team mostly comprised of younger D1 players and various junior teams, including Canadian junior teams.
http://teamusa.usahockey.com/worldjuniors
A little confusing, but the confusion does point to the disparity that the men enjoy over the women from USA Hockey.
The men's team that you're referencing is the National Team Development Program (NTDP) which actually has teams at both the U18 and U17 levels:
http://www.usahockeyntdp.com/
In the fall the U18's play exhibition games against D1 men's teams, and then go on to play a regular schedule in the USHL. Currently they are in 8th place in the USHL's Eastern Conference.
http://www.ushl.com/view/#/team-stats
The NTDP team(s) are not to be confused with the USA National U18 Team that's put together each year to play in the U18 World Championship (most - but not all - of the USA National U18 Team members are selected from the NTDP U18 team).
Finally, there is the USA National Junior Team which is basically a U20 all-star team mostly comprised of younger D1 players and various junior teams, including Canadian junior teams.
http://teamusa.usahockey.com/worldjuniors
A little confusing, but the confusion does point to the disparity that the men enjoy over the women from USA Hockey.
Russell Jaslow
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Re: 2017 Women's World Championships
http://www.gophersports.com/sports/m-hockey/stats/2016-2017/16exhib.html
Thanks, I wasn't aware of that. I did go to the NTDP/Minnesota game last October, and when the Gophers beat them 9-0 it made me wonder if USA Hockey should keep the program going.
http://www.gophersports.com/sports/m-hockey/stats/2016-2017/16exhib.html
bluffrinkrat
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Re: 2017 Women's World Championships
I was at that game as well. It gave me high hopes for the Gophers this year, but in reality the U18 team just wasn't very good. Quite the drop in talent from the 2005 team of Kessel, Stoa, Mueller, Jack and Erik Johnson and oh yeah, Nathan Gerbe. They did have a weird goalie though on the '05 team. Can't quite remember his name, but I think it rhymed with lazy and crazy.
I was at that game as well. It gave me high hopes for the Gophers this year, but in reality the U18 team just wasn't very good. Quite the drop in talent from the 2005 team of Kessel, Stoa, Mueller, Jack and Erik Johnson and oh yeah, Nathan Gerbe. They did have a weird goalie though on the '05 team. Can't quite remember his name, but I think it rhymed with lazy and crazy.
bluffrinkrat
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Re: 2017 Women's World Championships
Good point. The Gophers did get four players off that '05 team (Kessel, Stoa, Erik Johnson and the what's his name goalie
), but none this year that I know about.
Good point. The Gophers did get four players off that '05 team (Kessel, Stoa, Erik Johnson and the what's his name goalie
), but none this year that I know about.
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TonyTheTiger20
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Re: 2017 Women's World Championships
Did someone say Gerbe? What?
Did someone say Gerbe? What?
bluffrinkrat
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Re: 2017 Women's World Championships
Yep. Good little hockey player. From Michigan, but played out east someplace, I think.
Yep. Good little hockey player. From Michigan, but played out east someplace, I think.
CARDS_rule_the_Burgh
Nate LePage, Siena '13
Plattsburgh last hosted them in 2011. Cardinals lost 2-0. Goals by Nikolas Olsson (currently at BU) and Miles Koules (currently in the AHL after going the Major-Junior route). Ryan Hartman of the Chicago Blackhawks had an assist I. That game. Goalie was Jared Rutledge (played 10 games for Michigan, went back to Juniors, and now is doing even worse in DIII at Aurora...)
That same NDTP team beat Vermont the night before, 2-1.
Hockeygirlzmom
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NHL network I believe
Re: 2017 Women's World Championships
I read somewhere that some games will be telecast live, others tape-delayed.
Just because my opinion differs from yours doesn't make me an ignoramous or unenlightened. I prefer to keep my money in my own pocket, or use it to further my own kids dreams, rather than be forced to subsidize someone else's dream of becoming a professional athlete. A lot of hockey parents like myself are going to have to foot the bill for this when USA Hockey increases their dues. I can find a lot better uses for my money than this.
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I would be as equally as outraged if I had to pay for Phil Kessel to fly with a friend first class to the World Championships as I am having to pay for Hilary Knight to become a full time professional athlete on my dime. Does that answer your question.
That argument doesn't work however because we all know the NHL and USA Hockey have a complicated agreement that includes things like travel. NHL players get very little in direct compensation from USA Hockey. Difficult to compare the two situations.
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PSUChamps2001
Member of the REAL Zoo Crew
Re: 2017 Women's World Championships
I find it more "interesting" that the NWHL cuts their players salary by 50% due to declining attendance back in November, and then amazingly just 4-5 months later USA Hockey is now supplementing their salary, opps I mean giving them equal opportunity.
I find it more "interesting" that the NWHL cuts their players salary by 50% due to declining attendance back in November, and then amazingly just 4-5 months later USA Hockey is now supplementing their salary, opps I mean giving them equal opportunity.
Re: 2017 Women's World Championships
It's nice to see that empathy is alive and well in America.
You may not like it, but I again advise you to actually read the Amateur Sports Act, as it is the federal law that covers this situation. You are correct that the NHL covers the wages of its players, and so direct payments from USA Hockey to the women's team players isn't covered. However, the travel arrangements are more complicated. Largely for tax and logistics reasons, the NHL gives money to USA Hockey, which then pays for the travel. This brings it under the purview of the ASA. Further, USAH pays for the men's players to bring a guest, both travel and lodging, even though the money it gets from the NHL does not cover this. It also provides disability insurance for the men, but not the women.
Again, like it or not, the United States decided several decades ago that the athletes on its national teams would be professionals rather than amateurs. As such, it provides financial support necessary to make this so. The alternative to the deal that was struck, aside from being illegal in several aspects, was a truly amateur team that is not competitive with Canada. Those were the alternatives.
It's nice to see that empathy is alive and well in America.
You may not like it, but I again advise you to actually read the Amateur Sports Act, as it is the federal law that covers this situation. You are correct that the NHL covers the wages of its players, and so direct payments from USA Hockey to the women's team players isn't covered. However, the travel arrangements are more complicated. Largely for tax and logistics reasons, the NHL gives money to USA Hockey, which then pays for the travel. This brings it under the purview of the ASA. Further, USAH pays for the men's players to bring a guest, both travel and lodging, even though the money it gets from the NHL does not cover this. It also provides disability insurance for the men, but not the women.
Again, like it or not, the United States decided several decades ago that the athletes on its national teams would be professionals rather than amateurs. As such, it provides financial support necessary to make this so. The alternative to the deal that was struck, aside from being illegal in several aspects, was a truly amateur team that is not competitive with Canada. Those were the alternatives.
Re: 2017 Women's World Championships
Please elaborate on "interesting".. Are you ****ed that the best Women's hockey players in the USA might be "supported" by USA Hockey whom they represent and win Championships and Medals for?? This group of women inspires thousands of young girls to take up the sport of hockey!! Several women on the team don't even play for the NWHL! If USA hockey felt this group had no value to their model they would have forfeited the games after Scab-tactics failed terribly by epic solidarity by the sisters of the women's program all the way down to U18 level! You are obviously not a fan or respect the sport of Women's hockey and that is OK. You probably prefer men's and NHL hockey like most. What happened in this recent agreement will in no doubt give USA Women's National team the ability to field the BEST players in the country for their National team for the next 4 years and not just the amateurs unconcerned about a career or life future!
Please elaborate on "interesting".. Are you ****ed that the best Women's hockey players in the USA might be "supported" by USA Hockey whom they represent and win Championships and Medals for?? This group of women inspires thousands of young girls to take up the sport of hockey!! Several women on the team don't even play for the NWHL! If USA hockey felt this group had no value to their model they would have forfeited the games after Scab-tactics failed terribly by epic solidarity by the sisters of the women's program all the way down to U18 level! You are obviously not a fan or respect the sport of Women's hockey and that is OK. You probably prefer men's and NHL hockey like most. What happened in this recent agreement will in no doubt give USA Women's National team the ability to field the BEST players in the country for their National team for the next 4 years and not just the amateurs unconcerned about a career or life future!