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2017 Women's D-III NCAA Selection Thread

shelfit said:
I didn't think anyone was dumb enough to use the mini game format in playoff hockey anymore. Didn't they do away with that years ago on the men's side because it was such a stupid way of deciding the fates of two teams at the most critical time of the season?! It's much worse than a one game knockout because if the underdog gets lucky and scores the first goal of the mini game the higher ranked team has much less time to get a goal to tie it up compared to a full length game.

Plus I love how there's no notation at all of the mini game in the box score on collegehockeystats.net. Lol.
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Well the "mini game" ended up practically being a full game. I was surprised last night at about 11 (IL time) I was looking and trying to figure out who won and saw that the game was still going. Lake Forest scored at about 15 minutes into the third period of the mini game. The box score for the original game was posted at like 9:30pm. Usually it says "Lake Forest won mini game 1-0" or something like that. I'm sure it was too late to update it. The men do a single elimination game, but the WIAC and The NCHA women still do the 2 and a mini game. I'm not sure what the reasoning is because it probably doesn't make them money. If they just did single elimination, Lake Forest would have advanced without losing the game, and Call It wouldn't have had anything to whine about.
 
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2-28-17 Rankings are out

REGION/RANK SCHOOL IN-DIVISION RECORD OVERALL RECORD
EAST
1 Plattsburgh 24-1-1 24-1-1
2 Middlebury 17-6-2 17-6-2
3 Norwich 18-3-1 20-5-1
4 Elmira 18-4-4 18-4-4
5 Endicott 20-2-1 21-3-1
6 Utica 17-9-1 17-9-1
WEST
1 Adrian 25-2-0 25-2-0
2 UW-RF 25-2-0 25-2-0
3 GA 17-6-3 17-6-3
4 Augsburg 19-7-0 19-7-0
5 UW-EC 18-8-1 18-8-1
6 Lake Forest 21-5-1 21-5-1

Plattsburgh is catching Middlebury in SOS and their RNK is now 8-0-0 with Oswego falling out. I think they'll still get a chance to go for 4 in a row even if they fall to Elmira, but with Elmira at a .572 SOS and 0-4-2 RNK get a Pool C if they lose? What do you guys think for Pool C contenders?
 
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Scott_TG said:
2-28-17 Rankings are out

REGION/RANK SCHOOL IN-DIVISION RECORD OVERALL RECORD
EAST
1 Plattsburgh 24-1-1 24-1-1
2 Middlebury 17-6-2 17-6-2
3 Norwich 18-3-1 20-5-1
4 Elmira 18-4-4 18-4-4
5 Endicott 20-2-1 21-3-1
6 Utica 17-9-1 17-9-1
WEST
1 Adrian 25-2-0 25-2-0
2 UW-RF 25-2-0 25-2-0
3 GA 17-6-3 17-6-3
4 Augsburg 19-7-0 19-7-0
5 UW-EC 18-8-1 18-8-1
6 Lake Forest 21-5-1 21-5-1

Plattsburgh is catching Middlebury in SOS and their RNK is now 8-0-0 with Oswego falling out. I think they'll still get a chance to go for 4 in a row even if they fall to Elmira, but with Elmira at a .572 SOS and 0-4-2 RNK get a Pool C if they lose? What do you guys think for Pool C contenders?
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My guess for the NESCAC is that Middlebury gets to the finals and then loses - except for last season they have struggled to close the NESCAC tourney for the last several years (full disclosure: my picks on the NESCAC thread this past weekend were horrible - 1 for 4 - so take it for what it's worth). If that happens, then that should leave the auto qualifiers as Plattsburgh, NESCAC team that beat Middlebury, Norwich, Adrian, and Augsburg. River Falls in the Pool B. Midd still gets a Pool C likely. That leaves Endicott, Elmira, and probably GA for the last slot - don't know the winner there.
 
Scott_TG said:
2-28-17 Rankings are out

REGION/RANK SCHOOL IN-DIVISION RECORD OVERALL RECORD
EAST
1 Plattsburgh 24-1-1 24-1-1
2 Middlebury 17-6-2 17-6-2
3 Norwich 18-3-1 20-5-1
4 Elmira 18-4-4 18-4-4
5 Endicott 20-2-1 21-3-1
6 Utica 17-9-1 17-9-1
WEST
1 Adrian 25-2-0 25-2-0
2 UW-RF 25-2-0 25-2-0
3 GA 17-6-3 17-6-3
4 Augsburg 19-7-0 19-7-0
5 UW-EC 18-8-1 18-8-1
6 Lake Forest 21-5-1 21-5-1

Plattsburgh is catching Middlebury in SOS and their RNK is now 8-0-0 with Oswego falling out. I think they'll still get a chance to go for 4 in a row even if they fall to Elmira, but with Elmira at a .572 SOS and 0-4-2 RNK get a Pool C if they lose? What do you guys think for Pool C contenders?
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Boy that rankings has to irritate some folks. Conn wins and drops out?

I don't like that they base the "record vs ranked" off last weeks rankongs.
I'm really surprised that Gustavus stayed where they are. If they stay at 3rd after next week then that would put them in contention for the Pool C.

I still think Elmira is pretty set as long as every one else that should win, wins. Plattsburgh is in...don't kid yourself.

Elmira is currently ranked the highest "Pool C" in the East.

Comparing them to Gustavus (the highest Pool C in the West). Elmira wins. They have a slightly better record, big advantage in SOS, and Gustavus wins results against ranked. That would put Elmira in. I think the only way Elmira is in trouble is if 2 of Middlebury, Norwich, Adrian lose their tournaments next week.

I think Gustavus would beat Endicott 2-1 in the criteria but most other teams beat them 2-1 as well and they are ahead...so who knows. But again, I think common opponents is a factor in that ranking as well and Gustavus and Endicott have none.

I think it will come down to who wins the MIAC in the west. If St Thomas wins they would have to move into the rankings which would hurt Gustavus substantially. (Gustavus is 0-2-1 vs St Thomas) on the other hand it would help Eau Claire.

If it ended today with the favorites winning it would put
Gustavus @ Plattsburgh
Augsburg @ River Falls (I assume that if Augsburg wins the MIAC they would move ahead of Gustavus)
Elmira @ Adrian
Norwich @ Middlebury
 
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I think there are some interesting scenarios. It does seem that the committee is giving Middlebury a lot of love for their schedule and they have a good shot at a pool C if they should lose. They would beat Elmira in the head to head comparison. I think then you'd definitely have a 5-3 split.

If the favorites win the final Pool C will be interesting.
 
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gojackets said:
I think there are some interesting scenarios. It does seem that the committee is giving Middlebury a lot of love for their schedule and they have a good shot at a pool C if they should lose. They would beat Elmira in the head to head comparison. I think then you'd definitely have a 6-3 split.

If the favorites win the final Pool C will be interesting.
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6-3? There are only 8 spots.
 
gojackets said:
If it ended today with the favorites winning it would put
Gustavus @ Plattsburgh
Augsburg @ River Falls (I assume that if Augsburg wins the MIAC they would move ahead of Gustavus)
Elmira @ Adrian
Norwich @ Middlebury
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If Gustavus gets in Pool C and creates a 4-4 split, they have to have a flight. Your bracket assumes that flight would be used to send the lowest seed (who I think would still be Augsburg) to the highest seed (likely Plattsburgh irrespective of Saturday's result, I think).

But since bracket integrity is not paramount in this process, is there any way they fly Augsburg or Gustavus to Adrian, in order to try to guarantee 2 Western participants in the Semis? (Although Adrian to River Falls or vice-versa would still be a flight...)
 
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CARDS_rule_the_Burgh said:
If Gustavus gets in Pool C and creates a 4-4 split, they have to have a flight. Your bracket assumes that flight would be used to send the lowest seed (who I think would still be Augsburg) to the highest seed (likely Plattsburgh irrespective of Saturday's result, I think).

But since bracket integrity is not paramount in this process, is there any way they fly Augsburg or Gustavus to Adrian, in order to try to guarantee 2 Western participants in the Semis? (Although Adrian to River Falls or vice-versa would still be a flight...)
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Well if it were 4-4 it would be Augsburg/Gustavus to Adrian and the other one to River Falls. Definitely not having Adrian/River Falls meet in the quarters. My way they could get 3 western teams in the final :P

The Augsburg/Gustavus comparison is pretty close. They split head to head. Augsburg has a bettr record, SOS is Gustavus's...but would they really put a conference champ behind someone who didn't make the final when its that close?
 
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gojackets said:
Well if it were 4-4 it would be Augsburg/Gustavus to Adrian and the other one to River Falls. Definitely not having Adrian/River Falls meet in the quarters. My way they could get 3 western teams in the final :P

The Augsburg/Gustavus comparison is pretty close. They split head to head. Augsburg has a bettr record, SOS is Gustavus's...but would they really put a conference champ behind someone who didn't make the final when its that close?
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Oh, I definitely know what you mean on the Augsburg/Gustavus comparison, but technically the committee is supposed to treat all games equally, so the fact that Augsburg did better in the conference tournament is irrelevant (at least, should be) except for the fact that it grants a Pool A bid.

And I wasn't tying to say send UWRF and Adrian to play a QF against each other. I guess I was looking at it as "guaranteeing 2 West Teams is better than risking getting only 1 in order to try to get 3", and my statement about it being a flight between AC and UWRF was just to acknowledge the counter to my own argument in that, unless Adrian lost to Augsburg or Gustavus in the QFs, they would be paying for 3 flights for the SFs no matter what.
 
CARDS_rule_the_Burgh said:
Oh, I definitely know what you mean on the Augsburg/Gustavus comparison, but technically the committee is supposed to treat all games equally, so the fact that Augsburg did better in the conference tournament is irrelevant (at least, should be) except for the fact that it grants a Pool A bid.

And I wasn't tying to say send UWRF and Adrian to play a QF against each other. I guess I was looking at it as "guaranteeing 2 West Teams is better than risking getting only 1 in order to try to get 3", and my statement about it being a flight between AC and UWRF was just to acknowledge the counter to my own argument in that, unless Adrian lost to Augsburg or Gustavus in the QFs, they would be paying for 3 flights for the SFs no matter what.
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Oh yeah. I see now. I think it will be 3 flights regardless. The only way I see it not happening is if somehow Lake Forest beats Adrian next weekend....but then Gustavus ain't making the NCAAs...so probably still 3 flights. Lol
 
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Eau Claire up 1-0 on River Falls after 2. It's crazy how much of a thorn in UWRFs side Eau Claire he been this year.
 
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Plattsburgh punches their ticket with a 2-1 win over Elmira for Plattsburgh's 5th straight ECAC West title!
 
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St. Thomas wins early in OT.

So far for autobids we have:

Plattsburgh (ECAC West)
Norwich (NEHC)
Adrian (NCHA)
St. Thomas (MIAC)
 
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