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2017 MLB Season - The Goat Memorial Thread

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I am shocked. SHOCKED!!!!

@BillShaikin: Joe West suspended 3 games after calling Adrian Beltre game's biggest complainer in USA Today, per WUA. Union strongly opposes suspension.
 
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That's okay. Baseball fans in general strongly oppose his employment in the first place.
 
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SI had an article on him for his 5000th game. Players voted him both the worst and fifth best umpire.
 
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ShirtlessBob said:
Braves SS Johan Camargo injured his knee by simply running on to the field.
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That's kind of how Teddy Bridgewater went down. Just a freak incident where he didn't trip, fall, or have any other kind of contact with another player.
 
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The Dodgers have 50 games to go. They need to go 37-13 to tie the season wins record. Playing .500 the rest of the way would put them at 104-58.
 
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joecct said:
@Super70sSports: Today in 1971, Juan Marichal tosses his 50th shutout. 40 yrs later, scientists discover if u throw even 1 complete game ur arm will blow up. https://twitter.com/Super70sSports/status/895702735873617920/photo/1
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Because all those arm injuries are faked?

Cy Young couldn't throw complete games if he threw the kind of pitches contemporary pitchers do. The stress these guys put on their arms is completely unnatural.

Don't pull this sh-t with a Mets fan, man. :mad:
 
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Because all those arm injuries are faked?

Cy Young couldn't throw complete games if he threw the kind of pitches contemporary pitchers do. The stress these guys put on their arms is completely unnatural.

Don't pull this sh-t with a Mets fan, man. :mad:
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Then learn to throw like Seaver and Koosman.
 
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joecct said:
Then learn to throw like Seaver and Koosman.
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So just to be clear, in every other sport athletes are faster, stronger, better trained, have greater endurance and greater resiliancy. But in baseball they're soft now because, why, fluoridated water? No god in the classroom?

The f-ck, joe? You're not making any sense at all beyond "old man yells at cloud." You sound like Ron Darling or Keith Hernandez.
 
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Kepler said:
So just to be clear, in every other sport athletes are faster, stronger, better trained, have greater endurance and greater resiliancy.
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If they are so much greater now, why do we need 5 starters, and 8 relievers? A guy can't throw a 100 pitches for fear of losing his arm.

They may be stronger and faster, but they are as fragile as grandma's china dishes.
 
Kepler said:
So just to be clear, in every other sport athletes are faster, stronger, better trained, have greater endurance and greater resiliancy. But in baseball they're soft now because, why, fluoridated water? No god in the classroom?

The f-ck, joe? You're not making any sense at all beyond "old man yells at cloud." You sound like Ron Darling or Keith Hernandez.
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Phosphates Kep. Phosphates. Baseball was fun when we were kids. It's still good, but less fun. IMO it's too programmed and micromanaged.
 
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JF_Gophers said:
If they are so much greater now, why do we need 5 starters, and 8 relievers? A guy can't throw a 100 pitches for fear of losing his arm.

They may be stronger and faster, but they are as fragile as grandma's china dishes.
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It's the pitches. When pitchers started throwing "ungodly breaking stuff" beyond a simple curve, pitchers couldn't do this anymore. Seaver and Koosman couldn't pitch 70 CG a year. Were they coddled or p-ssies? It's been happening again over the last 30 years as computer analysis and kinesiology have broken down pitching to spin rates and placed insane twisting stresses on arms.

It has nothing to do with the pitchers -- they're stronger and better conditioned than ever. They're just doing stuff now that a normal human arm cannot do. If Bob Feller had tried to throw like a modern pitcher his arm would have shattered like Dave Dravecky's after 100 IP.
 
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Kepler said:
It's the pitches. When pitchers started throwing "ungodly breaking stuff" beyond a simple curve, pitchers couldn't do this anymore. Seaver and Koosman couldn't pitch 70 CG a year. Were they coddled or p-ssies? It's been happening again over the last 30 years as computer analysis and kinesiology have broken down pitching to spin rates and placed insane twisting stresses on arms.

It has nothing to do with the pitchers -- they're stronger and better conditioned than ever. They're just doing stuff now that a normal human arm cannot do. If Bob Feller had tried to throw like a modern pitcher his arm would have shattered like Dave Dravecky's after 100 IP.
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Feller's curveball was lethal.
 
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For over 60 years the Dodgers taught all of their pitchers exactly 3 pitches: fastball, curve, changeup. Drysdale, Sutton, Koufax, Valenzuela, didn't matter. Yes, the slider has accelerated the wrecking of arms, but the lowering of the mound after the 1968 season, as well as a strike zone that is nearly half the size of what it was in the 60's has a lot to do with the reduction of innings as well.

I have Game 5 of the 1968 World Series on DVD (where Lou Brock thought it would be a good idea to not slide into Bill Freehan), as well as the 1971 All Star Game (where Reggie Jackson decided to play ping-pong with the light towers in Tiger Stadium). The strike zone was quite literally armpits to knees. Anything armpits and below, and the umpire was going up with the right hand. You can't tell me that didn't have an effect on the innings the pitchers could pitch back then as well.
 
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JF_Gophers said:
If they are so much greater now, why do we need 5 starters, and 8 relievers? A guy can't throw a 100 pitches for fear of losing his arm.

They may be stronger and faster, but they are as fragile as grandma's china dishes.
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Because a crappy reliever with a fresh arm still beats out 99% of starters with a tired arm on the 3rd or 4th time through the lineup. And teams are taught to work the count - you don't hear people like Dusty Baker talking about "clogging up the bases" with walks anymore. And the mound was lowered.
 
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