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2016 World Junior Championship
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FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: 2016 World Junior Championship
If Russia ends up winning, that's going to be one killer of a group.
If Russia ends up winning, that's going to be one killer of a group.
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
Re: 2016 World Junior Championship
With the new format, I'd prefer the US be in the more difficult group every time.
If Russia ends up winning, that's going to be one killer of a group.
With the new format, I'd prefer the US be in the more difficult group every time.
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
Re: 2016 World Junior Championship
Is that for sure? That really stinks...I was hoping to get to some US preliminary games in Montreal next year.
Is that for sure? That really stinks...I was hoping to get to some US preliminary games in Montreal next year.
Re: 2016 World Junior Championship
Yes, everyone in Canada's group (including the US) will play all preliminary games in Toronto.
Does anyone know when the schedule of games and dates is expected to be released?
Yes, everyone in Canada's group (including the US) will play all preliminary games in Toronto.
Does anyone know when the schedule of games and dates is expected to be released?
There may be USAH exhibitions in your area.
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
Re: 2016 World Junior Championship
My take on the US team, now that the tournament is finished.
First, it generally seems that a third place finish is not outside the range of where most experts (I'm not one) placed this team pre-tournament. In that regard, I don't think the outcome can necessarily be considered a failure.
Chris Dilks, in his blog, usually does a really good job assessing the prospects for the US team, as well as possible candidates for the team, early each December, and this year was no different. If I recall his pre-selection assessment, he felt the pool of candidates at forward was solid and pretty deep, perhaps with more scoring potential than past groups. He was less enthused about the group of defensemen to choose from, especially without players like Hanifan. Goaltending was expected to be a bit of a question as well.
I think it's also fair to say that once the team was selected, Chris was less enthused, as were many others. A sizable number of goal scoring forwards were passed over in favor of guys more suited for third or fourth line grinding roles.
So here is my question/take. Did this team really just end up about where they were destined to, but just got there in a different way? That is, did the presence of the more defensive styled forwards instead of the Kyle Connors of the world mean that we would end up losing games 1-0 or 2-1, rather than 4-3 or 5-4. Defense and goaltending was expected to be a big question mark, and now some will say that we squandered a good defensive and goaltending effort by not having any goal scoring. But did we? If we had taken the goal scorers instead of the grinders, might our questionable defense and goaltending been exposed?
I don't know, but all in all I think this outcome is probably about where they were destined for in any event.
My take on the US team, now that the tournament is finished.
First, it generally seems that a third place finish is not outside the range of where most experts (I'm not one) placed this team pre-tournament. In that regard, I don't think the outcome can necessarily be considered a failure.
Chris Dilks, in his blog, usually does a really good job assessing the prospects for the US team, as well as possible candidates for the team, early each December, and this year was no different. If I recall his pre-selection assessment, he felt the pool of candidates at forward was solid and pretty deep, perhaps with more scoring potential than past groups. He was less enthused about the group of defensemen to choose from, especially without players like Hanifan. Goaltending was expected to be a bit of a question as well.
I think it's also fair to say that once the team was selected, Chris was less enthused, as were many others. A sizable number of goal scoring forwards were passed over in favor of guys more suited for third or fourth line grinding roles.
So here is my question/take. Did this team really just end up about where they were destined to, but just got there in a different way? That is, did the presence of the more defensive styled forwards instead of the Kyle Connors of the world mean that we would end up losing games 1-0 or 2-1, rather than 4-3 or 5-4. Defense and goaltending was expected to be a big question mark, and now some will say that we squandered a good defensive and goaltending effort by not having any goal scoring. But did we? If we had taken the goal scorers instead of the grinders, might our questionable defense and goaltending been exposed?
I don't know, but all in all I think this outcome is probably about where they were destined for in any event.
hockeyplayer1015
Capt
Re: 2016 World Junior Championship
This gold medal game is going to be a barn burner these last 10 minutes. Finland just scored to tie it at 2.
This gold medal game is going to be a barn burner these last 10 minutes. Finland just scored to tie it at 2.
hockeyplayer1015
Capt
Re: 2016 World Junior Championship
Finland scores with :01 remaining on a PP. 3-2 Suomi with a shade over 2 minutes to go.
Russian captain throws a tantrum, gets a misconduct and then goes ape**** in the box, getting himself tossed. Lol.
Finland scores with :01 remaining on a PP. 3-2 Suomi with a shade over 2 minutes to go.
Russian captain throws a tantrum, gets a misconduct and then goes ape**** in the box, getting himself tossed. Lol.
hockeyplayer1015
Capt
Re: 2016 World Junior Championship
Provorov takes a shot that pinballs off a Russian forward next to the net to tie the game with 6.9 seconds to go, EAG. Wow. This one will need bonus time.
Provorov takes a shot that pinballs off a Russian forward next to the net to tie the game with 6.9 seconds to go, EAG. Wow. This one will need bonus time.
hockeyplayer1015
Capt
Re: 2016 World Junior Championship
SUOMI!
Russia joins Group B in Toronto.
SUOMI!
Russia joins Group B in Toronto.
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
Re: 2016 World Junior Championship
Group B in Toronto will have some great games...and some real stinkers against Latvia.
Group B in Toronto will have some great games...and some real stinkers against Latvia.
That's some group. Figure RUS-SVK and USA-CAN on 12/31. The rest of the schedule is going to be a nightmare.
On the other side 12/31 FIN-SWE & CZE-DEN??
hockeyplayer1015
Capt
Re: 2016 World Junior Championship
Both groups have some potential for great games next year. Sure, Group B has 3 of the top 5, a middling Slovakia and bottom feeder Latvia. Group A has 2 perennial powers, and then the rest have the chance to create some drama, as we saw SUI and Denmark give a couple scares this year.
Both groups have some potential for great games next year. Sure, Group B has 3 of the top 5, a middling Slovakia and bottom feeder Latvia. Group A has 2 perennial powers, and then the rest have the chance to create some drama, as we saw SUI and Denmark give a couple scares this year.
Re: 2016 World Junior Championship
I thought Sweden crapped the bed- they looked like the most complete team of the tourney. That said, playing for 3rd place is a demotivator after losing to what I presume is their most hated rival in their home rink.
Finland didn't look that strong at the start of the tourney, but that win against Canada jump started them.
The US only gave up 10 goals, but 3 of them were in the pivotal losses. Their offense was prolific but went kapoot in those games too. Just the same, it looked like a complete roster when guys like Kyle Conner are left off the team.
Canada was a complete disappointment.
Russia didn't dominate anyone, but seemed to win those tight gritty games except against the Finns in the gold medal game.
I thought Sweden crapped the bed- they looked like the most complete team of the tourney. That said, playing for 3rd place is a demotivator after losing to what I presume is their most hated rival in their home rink.
Finland didn't look that strong at the start of the tourney, but that win against Canada jump started them.
The US only gave up 10 goals, but 3 of them were in the pivotal losses. Their offense was prolific but went kapoot in those games too. Just the same, it looked like a complete roster when guys like Kyle Conner are left off the team.
Canada was a complete disappointment.
Russia didn't dominate anyone, but seemed to win those tight gritty games except against the Finns in the gold medal game.