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2016 Open Wheel Racing- this Haas to be a great Roissing year.
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solovsfett
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That's too bad. It's a beautiful track.
I missed theF1 race but see Lauda is upset with Hamilton. Was the accident his fault? Feeling pressure to match Rosberg?
Indy was ok, Penske showed exactly why they're the best with Pagenaud's stops. I feel bad for Conor Daly, they had the right strategy but he didn't have enough ptp left to close the gap then his tires must have fallen off.
Andretti's team is just going nowhere which is a major bummer.
Rahal had a great race.
Can't wait for the 500!
Re: 2016 Open Wheel Racing- this Haas to be a great Roissing year.
My view of the Rosberg-Hamilton crash was it was more Rosberg's fault. He got a great start, and did even better in turn one, but for some reason coming out of 2 with a 3 car lead- he did something. So Lewis closed REALLY quickly. Nico basically closed the door by blocking all the way to the right (the next corner was right, so he drove across the track to block), but Lewis would have had to brake- which seems unreasonable when someone else makes a mistake like that. BTW, Rosberg left no room at all for Hamilton- his right tire was inches from track right, and there is a rule to leave space. Hamilton spun on the grass, and took Rosberg out.
Lauda didn't see it well, I thought. Worse was him taking sides so quickly. If I were Hamilton, I would be looking for a new team. No reason to have such a high standing person put that quick of blame on the 2 time defending champ.
As I understand it- the stewards called it a racing incident.
Best part about the Indy race was it was clean. They are diving pretty well. Hinchcliffe did really well, too- he drove the wheels off his car.
But I think the 500 is Simon's to lose at this point. Even though he's not an oval guy- his team is so good at this point- so much better than anyone else, including the other Penskes...
My view of the Rosberg-Hamilton crash was it was more Rosberg's fault. He got a great start, and did even better in turn one, but for some reason coming out of 2 with a 3 car lead- he did something. So Lewis closed REALLY quickly. Nico basically closed the door by blocking all the way to the right (the next corner was right, so he drove across the track to block), but Lewis would have had to brake- which seems unreasonable when someone else makes a mistake like that. BTW, Rosberg left no room at all for Hamilton- his right tire was inches from track right, and there is a rule to leave space. Hamilton spun on the grass, and took Rosberg out.
Lauda didn't see it well, I thought. Worse was him taking sides so quickly. If I were Hamilton, I would be looking for a new team. No reason to have such a high standing person put that quick of blame on the 2 time defending champ.
As I understand it- the stewards called it a racing incident.
Best part about the Indy race was it was clean. They are diving pretty well. Hinchcliffe did really well, too- he drove the wheels off his car.
But I think the 500 is Simon's to lose at this point. Even though he's not an oval guy- his team is so good at this point- so much better than anyone else, including the other Penskes...
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
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F1....I view it as more of Hamilton's fault. As the trailing car, you can't stick your car into a spot where the guy in front you doesn't leave you space. You have the whole race to make a move in a equal car. I am stunned Ferrari is slipped to 3rd in the pecking order. Ricardo should have beat both Ferarris if not for a questionable strategy.
Indy GP. What has happened to Power? He has totally lost his edge. He screws up in the race then can't race his way back to the top 10? Yikes. Screwing up in qualifying? He's toast.
Indy 500...Simon should have won Indy last year if he didn't screw up. I think I read that Honda had an engine upgrade coming, could be wild.
F1....I view it as more of Hamilton's fault. As the trailing car, you can't stick your car into a spot where the guy in front you doesn't leave you space. You have the whole race to make a move in a equal car. I am stunned Ferrari is slipped to 3rd in the pecking order. Ricardo should have beat both Ferarris if not for a questionable strategy.
Indy GP. What has happened to Power? He has totally lost his edge. He screws up in the race then can't race his way back to the top 10? Yikes. Screwing up in qualifying? He's toast.
Indy 500...Simon should have won Indy last year if he didn't screw up. I think I read that Honda had an engine upgrade coming, could be wild.
Re: 2016 Open Wheel Racing- this Haas to be a great Roissing year.
Some notes have shown Rosberg made his own problem. He set the car into power generating mode, which cost him huge power- the cars were far from equal at that point. And that's why Hamilton closed so fast.
The rules do say that you have to leave room if a significant part of the car is crossing over- and "significant" means front wing to rear wheel. All the videos I've seen have Lewis' front tires to Nico's rears before being force off- Rosberg was in error in squeezing him off.
Theoretically, Hamilton could have passed later. Realistically- given that he could tell Rosberg was down on power, this was the best chance of the entire race. The end problem was he chose right, as did Nico.
As I see it, the stewards figured 1) there was not much time to make changes for either car- given Hamilton closed so fast, and 2) Rosberg had the penalty of not finishing- so there's no reason to penalize them anymore than that.
Anyway, it is what it is.
As for Power- I could have sworn that Rossi did something to keep Power at bay at one point in the race. Which is kinda cool.
Some notes have shown Rosberg made his own problem. He set the car into power generating mode, which cost him huge power- the cars were far from equal at that point. And that's why Hamilton closed so fast.
The rules do say that you have to leave room if a significant part of the car is crossing over- and "significant" means front wing to rear wheel. All the videos I've seen have Lewis' front tires to Nico's rears before being force off- Rosberg was in error in squeezing him off.
Theoretically, Hamilton could have passed later. Realistically- given that he could tell Rosberg was down on power, this was the best chance of the entire race. The end problem was he chose right, as did Nico.
As I see it, the stewards figured 1) there was not much time to make changes for either car- given Hamilton closed so fast, and 2) Rosberg had the penalty of not finishing- so there's no reason to penalize them anymore than that.
Anyway, it is what it is.
As for Power- I could have sworn that Rossi did something to keep Power at bay at one point in the race. Which is kinda cool.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
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There was nothing blatant between Hamilton and Rosberg, I think Rosberg's screw-up really caught Hamilton by surprise. It's just one of those incidents.
There was nothing blatant between Hamilton and Rosberg, I think Rosberg's screw-up really caught Hamilton by surprise. It's just one of those incidents.
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I think it took Nico by more surprise- given his beeline to track right.
I think it took Nico by more surprise- given his beeline to track right.
Nick Papagiorgio
Holding court
Re: 2016 Open Wheel Racing- this Haas to be a great Roissing year.
Anyone ever been to Watkins Glen?
Anyone ever been to Watkins Glen?
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I have for a vintage weekend. Great place for a track, but a pain to get to.
I have for a vintage weekend. Great place for a track, but a pain to get to.
Russell Jaslow
Registered User
Re: 2016 Open Wheel Racing- this Haas to be a great Roissing year.
I've raced and won there many times.
Oh, and spectate a lot, too... And to age myself, I saw the last two F1 races there.
I've raced and won there many times.
Oh, and spectate a lot, too... And to age myself, I saw the last two F1 races there.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
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So....the Honda people were yapping about Chevy sandbagging and it turns out they weren't. Honda has nearly 10 mph on the Chevys at the end of the straight, and are running more downforce. A miracle will be needed for a Chevy to win. I don't mind a Honda winning, just not an Andretti one. I am disappointed the speeds weren't higher, I was hoping for a lap average of 240. And the Saturday qualifying deal was such a waste of time.
Monaco needs to be replaced, it's such a boring race after the first lap. Replace it with a classic European track that as fallen out of favor with Bernie.
So....the Honda people were yapping about Chevy sandbagging and it turns out they weren't. Honda has nearly 10 mph on the Chevys at the end of the straight, and are running more downforce. A miracle will be needed for a Chevy to win. I don't mind a Honda winning, just not an Andretti one. I am disappointed the speeds weren't higher, I was hoping for a lap average of 240. And the Saturday qualifying deal was such a waste of time.
Monaco needs to be replaced, it's such a boring race after the first lap. Replace it with a classic European track that as fallen out of favor with Bernie.
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LOL, on both points.
I really enjoyed the last hour of qualifying on Sunday- especially given the drama of one guy sitting on the pole for a long time and people getting SO close. Until the end by 0.06 mph. That was nice.
It would be great if there was bumping that was going on. But I don't think there are enough cars in the world to do that.
As for Monaco- it needs to stay as it's one the the last classic tracks. Monaco is just pre-dated by Spa and Monza, and is older than Silverstone. Which are the last tracks from the original Grand Prix World Championship in the 50's. We've seen two of the 4 for the F1 events, I've been to Siverstone for another one. Gotta see Monza. Besides, the one classic Senna video everyone sees is Monaco.
They do need to let the cars be able to pass better there- but that would fix a lot of other issues, too.
LOL, on both points.
I really enjoyed the last hour of qualifying on Sunday- especially given the drama of one guy sitting on the pole for a long time and people getting SO close. Until the end by 0.06 mph. That was nice.
It would be great if there was bumping that was going on. But I don't think there are enough cars in the world to do that.
As for Monaco- it needs to stay as it's one the the last classic tracks. Monaco is just pre-dated by Spa and Monza, and is older than Silverstone. Which are the last tracks from the original Grand Prix World Championship in the 50's. We've seen two of the 4 for the F1 events, I've been to Siverstone for another one. Gotta see Monza. Besides, the one classic Senna video everyone sees is Monaco.
They do need to let the cars be able to pass better there- but that would fix a lot of other issues, too.
Russell Jaslow
Registered User
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More sponsorship deals are closed at Monaco than all the other tracks put together. It's never going anywhere.
Besides, I just love watching the drivers negotiate Monaco without hitting anything. The in-car camera shots are probably the most thrilling than anywhere else. The amount of talent it takes to run that race is extraordinary. Even the greats, like Senna, can screw it up.
More sponsorship deals are closed at Monaco than all the other tracks put together. It's never going anywhere.
Besides, I just love watching the drivers negotiate Monaco without hitting anything. The in-car camera shots are probably the most thrilling than anywhere else. The amount of talent it takes to run that race is extraordinary. Even the greats, like Senna, can screw it up.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
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Some old Monaco in car footage is awesome, with those bad boys bouncing around and sliding. These cars are just too hooked to make it a thrill. Have them remove the front and rear wings for the race and use 1 set of tyres. That would be a fun watch. Obviously I get the $$$$$$$ Monaco brings in. It's just my least favorite race to watch.
Indy is sold out, awesome.
Some old Monaco in car footage is awesome, with those bad boys bouncing around and sliding. These cars are just too hooked to make it a thrill. Have them remove the front and rear wings for the race and use 1 set of tyres. That would be a fun watch. Obviously I get the $$$$$$$ Monaco brings in. It's just my least favorite race to watch.
Indy is sold out, awesome.
Russell Jaslow
Registered User
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I watched FP2 this morning. Sure seemed like a lot of sliding around and banging into walls...
I watched FP2 this morning. Sure seemed like a lot of sliding around and banging into walls...
solovsfett
Registered User
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I can't wait for Sunday! Monaco and INDY.
I've got two predictions
Red bull wins Monaco
Newgarden wins Indy
I can't wait for Sunday! Monaco and INDY.
I've got two predictions
Red bull wins Monaco
Newgarden wins Indy
Russell Jaslow
Registered User
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As long as it's Ricciardo. I don't think I can take Verstappen's feeling of entitlement getting any bigger...
I would definitely like to see Newgarden win.
As long as it's Ricciardo. I don't think I can take Verstappen's feeling of entitlement getting any bigger...
I would definitely like to see Newgarden win.
solovsfett
Registered User
As long as it's Ricciardo. I don't think I can take Verstappen's feeling of entitlement getting any bigger...
I would definitely like to see Newgarden win.
Agreed. I'm no fan of verstappen's entitled attitude either.
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That was a fun day of open wheel racing.
Rain at Monaco was very interesting. And how it dried and the strategies that played out was fascinating. In the end, though, Red Bull handed that win to Hamilton.
Nice to see struggling Force India have a really good race. Almost a relief to see Mclaren have a good day.
Then to see Alexander Rossi win the 500, holy cow. I know that fuel economy races are not popular, but he had a fast car and knew when to risk a long run on the tank. Great job for the former F1 driver.
That was a fun day of open wheel racing.
Rain at Monaco was very interesting. And how it dried and the strategies that played out was fascinating. In the end, though, Red Bull handed that win to Hamilton.
Nice to see struggling Force India have a really good race. Almost a relief to see Mclaren have a good day.
Then to see Alexander Rossi win the 500, holy cow. I know that fuel economy races are not popular, but he had a fast car and knew when to risk a long run on the tank. Great job for the former F1 driver.