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2016 Open Wheel Racing- this Haas to be a great Roissing year.

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RaceBoarder said:
E-Grandstand ;)
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Ideally. But a little too pricey for me on the secondary market. All gone at IMS office.

Will gladly take any advice when it comes to this. I think for first time being on front stretch to see the pagoda is ideal. Have seen some C grandstand seats across from pit entrance available right now that are covered and somewhat high. Good = close to turn 4 where a lot of action will take place and they are covered (fairly big deal for me and the kid). Bad= not a great view of turn 1. Was hoping to be down by turn 1 with the higher speeds they are at but this could be ok. Can see turn 3 and 4 I think.

edit - just pulled the trigger on those seats in C Stand. It's happening. Hotel also booked.
 
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C isn't bad depending how high you are... To see down to 4 you'll need to be high. Seeing into 1 isn't going to happen. You'll have a good view of the pits however.

Got to take in the 1999 race from the front stretch. I was right across from Robby McGehee's pit where one of his crew members was accidentally hit by Raul Bossel. Also was front and center to see Robby Gordon pull in coming to the white that year. You'll need a video screen to keep track of the race elsewhere though if you're not high enough.
 
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Bottas to Mercedes.

Massa back at Williams.

Wehrlein to Sauber.

And Manor may not need any driver... :(

With that and the 24 Hours of Daytona less than two weeks away, I think it's time someone (Joe...?) starts a new thread for 2017.
 
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Spencer Pigot to ecr.

Sage Karem still screwed and Matthew Brabham is also on the outside looking in.
 
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alfablue said:
Bernie is gone. http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/38723001
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Shocker. Probably a good move, but as I read somewhere else, we may regret it after an investment firm has all sorts of "great" ideas for the sport, like awarding points after each third of the race is done, LOL. Bernie was F1 through and through, I'll give him credit for that. At least Brawn is the sporting side director, awesome move. Until the marketing people have previously written crazy ideas and over-ride him.
 
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I know so little about racing that I don't even know if NASCAR belongs in this thread. However, I found this article fascinating. Is it real or just conspiratorial speculation for fun? For that matter, does the same gamesmanship occur in F1, etc?
 
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Kepler said:
I know so little about racing that I don't even know if NASCAR belongs in this thread. However, I found this article fascinating. Is it real or just conspiratorial speculation for fun? For that matter, does the same gamesmanship occur in F1, etc?
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That kind of gamesmanship doesn't happen in F1. Sometimes, it may be seen as that, but I'd trace it to the fact that yellows are so infrequent that some tracks use them poorly compared to others. And just as bad, teams barely know how to react to them- drivers have lost races due to bad reactions under yellows.

No, the conspiracy in F1 is more behind the scenes in the cubic dollars area.
 
alfablue said:
That kind of gamesmanship doesn't happen in F1. Sometimes, it may be seen as that, but I'd trace it to the fact that yellows are so infrequent that some tracks use them poorly compared to others. And just as bad, teams barely know how to react to them- drivers have lost races due to bad reactions under yellows.

No, the conspiracy in F1 is more behind the scenes in the cubic dollars area.
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Well, there was Crashgate... LOL

But no, alfablue is correct. That sort of gamesmanship doesn't really exist in F1. In fact, there's really no advantage for teams to do that because in F1, team points are more important than driver points, and both cars score points, so you don't want to eliminate one to help the other.

Like alfablue said, F1 gamesmanship is in the behind the scenes European Machiavellian politics.

Indycar sometimes sees it. There was of course the famous radio call from Mario when his car was failing at Indy asking whether Michael needed a yellow. And some have been accused of it in the past few years.

I can certainly see endurance racing teams using this tactic. Then of course there is the infamous Trans-Am call back in the 80s to have a lapped car knock the leader off the track to help the second place car which happened to be a teammate of the lapped car...
 
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