2016 IIHF Women's World Championship

[Timothy A]

Re: 2016 IIHF Women's World Championship

and why don't you wear Cardinal Red next year, your lack of faith is embarrassing

ne7minder knows it's all over already. You and the rest of the burrowing varmint fans would save yourselves a lot of gnashing of teeth if you just walked away now. Or joined the masses of Cardinal and White faithful. It's never too late to reform yourselves.

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

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ne7minder knows it's all over already. You and the rest of the burrowing varmint fans would save yourselves a lot of gnashing of teeth if you just walked away now. Or joined the masses of Cardinal and White faithful. It's never too late to reform yourselves.

The gnashing teeth of teeth is being done out east right now. No need to gnash teeth when your team has won 4 out of the last 5 titles.

And not to forget...Better dead than red.

 

[ne7minder]

Re: 2016 IIHF Women's World Championship

ne7minder knows it's all over already. You and the rest of the burrowing varmint fans would save yourselves a lot of gnashing of teeth if you just walked away now. Or joined the masses of Cardinal and White faithful. It's never too late to reform yourselves.

Burrowing varmint, you mean like a badger? When the day comes that the Gopher Women do not add another national championship trophy to their already bulging case I will be sad for a minute but there will be no gnashing of teeth as long as the game is played by two teams intent on playing the game the right way and everyone has given their best. I certainly will not denigrate a team that plays good, clean hockey. Only one team can claim the final hardware but there are many that can be proud of the effort and pride they show every game.

As for that other guy, he hopes to bait me into crawling down into the mud where he lives by insulting me and dragging my kid into it. All he did was prove my original statement using his own ugly words.

 

[D2D]

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No need to gnash teeth when your team has won 4 out of the last 5 titles.

Although when your team, like Wisconsin for instance, hasn't won it for 5 years the gnashing of teeth is totally understandable...although they were the runner-up back in '12, so maybe not?

 

[Timothy A]

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Although when your team, like Wisconsin for instance, hasn't won it for 5 years the gnashing of teeth is totally understandable...although they were the runner-up back in '12, so maybe not?

2012 was more than a teeth gnasher, it was a forehead splitter!!!!! I still cannot fathom how they lost at all that year with that talent. Oh the Humanity! The subsequent losses to the rodents haven't been teeth gnashers because the rodents had the edge in talent. This year the teams were pretty equal, no shame in losing to an equal/better team. I will say I am a little bitter about Kessel coming back out of the blue. UW was 2-0 against the Kessel-less team and 1-3 against the Kessel team, with the only UW win was 1-0 with ARD stealing the show. It's pretty obvious to me Kessel tipped the scale in the rodent's favor from an even match-up. I'm not saying Kessel made the rodents the prohibitive favorite, but she tipped it past even. I do appreciate the rodents dispatching BC.

 

[ARM]

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2012 was more than a teeth gnasher, it was a forehead splitter!!!!! I still cannot fathom how they lost at all that year with that talent.

Minnesota was pretty talented that year as well. The results in 2010-11 were pretty close. Wisconsin had to come from three goals down to win in OT in the WCHA tourney. After that season, the Gophers graduated two third-line forwards and a backup goalie, got West back from injury, and added freshmen like Ramsey, Bona, Lorence, and Anderson. Meanwhile, Wisconsin graduated the Kaz winner. I think the Gophers had a big edge in 2011-12 on the blue line, and that was likely Räty's best season at UM.

I will say I am a little bitter about Kessel coming back out of the blue. UW was 2-0 against the Kessel-less team and 1-3 against the Kessel team, with the only UW win was 1-0 with ARD stealing the show. It's pretty obvious to me Kessel tipped the scale in the rodent's favor from an even match-up. I'm not saying Kessel made the rodents the prohibitive favorite, but she tipped it past even. I do appreciate the rodents dispatching BC.

You're looking at it half empty. What if Brandt and Cameranesi had been healthy and it was Pankowski and Clark that were playing injured all year? Would it have been easier to take if Kessel had gotten healthy sooner and played all year instead of missing two thirds of it? UW at least got two banners out of it.

 

[Timothy A]

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You're looking at it half empty. What if Brandt and Cameranesi had been healthy and it was Pankowski and Clark that were playing injured all year? Would it have been easier to take if Kessel had gotten healthy sooner and played all year instead of missing two thirds of it? UW at least got two banners out of it.

Good point on the injuries. The fact that Kessel had retired from hockey, then came back was the shocker/bitter pill to swallow. Obviously she's the best F playing this last season, and honestly it was a relief when the season started that she would not be a factor.

 

[Eeyore]

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If you're find it bitter that a human being recovers from a long term injury to the point that she is able to do what she loves, there are some things you might want to reconsider.

 

[Puckdrop14]

If you're find it bitter that a human being recovers from a long term injury to the point that she is able to do what she loves, there are some things you might want to reconsider.

It was nice to see her play again and hopefully she stays injury free for years to come. She played a major role in the Gophers run at the championship and would imagine that she was as valuable off ice. Great player, great leader.

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

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If you're find it bitter that a human being recovers from a long term injury to the point that she is able to do what she loves, there are some things you might want to reconsider.

My interpretation of Timothy A's saying he is a little bitter about Kessel is that he is feeling that pit of the stomach upset that a major rival fan gets when something like the Kessel situation happens to help said rival. Kessel did in fact say she was retired before the season began so it's understandable. And besides his "bitter" is no where near the level of vitriol that comes from HB.

 

[Timothy A]

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My interpretation of Timothy A's saying he is a little bitter about Kessel is that he is feeling that pit of the stomach upset that a major rival fan gets when something like the Kessel situation happens to help said rival. Kessel did in fact say she was retired before the season began so it's understandable. And besides his "bitter" is no where near the level of vitriol that comes from HB.

Winner winner chicken dinner. On a personal level I am glad she can go about her daily life doing the things she loves, of course that is a wonderful thing.

Her last name also adds to the bitterness. Most WI fans have a certain level of contempt for her older sibling and his going to rodentland certainly played a role in Ms. Kessel ending up there as well. Obviously both would have looked awesome in Cardinal and White. It's hard to see legacy type players from your home state go elsewhere. WI does not produce that many.

 

[pokechecker]

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Winner winner chicken dinner. On a personal level I am glad she can go about her daily life doing the things she loves, of course that is a wonderful thing.

Her last name also adds to the bitterness. Most WI fans have a certain level of contempt for her older sibling and his going to rodentland certainly played a role in Ms. Kessel ending up there as well. Obviously both would have looked awesome in Cardinal and White. It's hard to see legacy type players from your home state go elsewhere. WI does not produce that many.

so why does such a high percentage leave? she's not the only one

 

[Badger Booster]

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so why does such a high percentage leave? she's not the only one

I'll admit that I don't follow in-state recruits too much, but outside of Kessel, I'm not sure how many impact players have left to play elsewhere. Certainly not a "high percentage". In stark comparison to the men's program, the UW women almost always land the top in-state recruits. Just not a lot to choose from.

 

[pokechecker]

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I'll admit that I don't follow in-state recruits too much, but outside of Kessel, I'm not sure how many impact players have left to play elsewhere. Certainly not a "high percentage". In stark comparison to the men's program, the UW women almost always land the top in-state recruits. Just not a lot to choose from.

players like that come only one or two a year in the US & Canada combined, I'm talking about all hockey players

I am only familar with the ones that have played in the WCHA
off the top of my head:
Julia Tylke just helped SCSU improve quite a bit compared to what they have been doing
Claudia Keplar has been one of OSU's best
same for Jamie Kenyon at UMD

it just seems that if you want to build girls/womens hockey in the state, you need to keep the players that you do develop
occasionally you are going to lose some, but
seems to me the best way to encourage girls to play and develop good skills is to let them know there is a place for them if they do

 

[Timothy A]

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I'll admit that I don't follow in-state recruits too much, but outside of Kessel, I'm not sure how many impact players have left to play elsewhere. Certainly not a "high percentage". In stark comparison to the men's program, the UW women almost always land the top in-state recruits. Just not a lot to choose from.

I was aiming much more on the men's side of the ledger than the women's. I trust MJ in that if he doesn't sign an in-state player, then he had better options outside of the state, other than Kessel.

 

[pokechecker]

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I was aiming much more on the men's side of the ledger than the women's. I trust MJ in that if he doesn't sign an in-state player, then he had better options outside of the state, other than Kessel.

as long as you people are happy ...

 

[Badger Booster]

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players like that come only one or two a year in the US & Canada combined, I'm talking about all hockey players

I am only familar with the ones that have played in the WCHA
off the top of my head:
Julia Tylke just helped SCSU improve quite a bit compared to what they have been doing
Claudia Keplar has been one of OSU's best
same for Jamie Kenyon at UMD

it just seems that if you want to build girls/womens hockey in the state, you need to keep the players that you do develop
occasionally you are going to lose some, but
seems to me the best way to encourage girls to play and develop good skills is to let them know there is a place for them if they do

Those are all solid players and Kepler always seems to score when she comes back to LaBahn. Kenyon's older sister played for the Badgers so maybe she wanted to go somewhere else, don't really know. Honestly, I didn't know Tylke was from Wisconsin. I'll admit that with the Badgers seemingly short at forwards (the Cianfarano de-commit still stings), those players would be nice to have.

Unfortunately, with only one D-1 hockey school in Wisconsin (which will probably never change), there are never going to be many open roster spots for Wisconsin-born players. In order to remain a consistent national title contender, they have to recruit coast-to-coast, even if they miss out on a couple of in-state players that could/should be playing for them.

 

[Timothy A]

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Those are all solid players and Kepler always seems to score when she comes back to LaBahn. Kenyon's older sister played for the Badgers so maybe she wanted to go somewhere else, don't really know. Honestly, I didn't know Tylke was from Wisconsin. I'll admit that with the Badgers seemingly short at forwards (the Cianfarano de-commit still stings), those players would be nice to have.

Cianfarano not coming to UW could have been that missing piece of the puzzle this last year and a huge missing piece for next year. Tristar Scoop said she had academic issues, which to me sucks even more.

 

[OnMAA]

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players like that come only one or two a year in the US & Canada combined, I'm talking about all hockey players

I am only familar with the ones that have played in the WCHA
off the top of my head:
Julia Tylke just helped SCSU improve quite a bit compared to what they have been doing
Claudia Keplar has been one of OSU's best
same for Jamie Kenyon at UMD

A few others that come to mind in terms of Players from all Sources making a huge difference in WCHA programs would be Spooner at OSU and Karvinen at ND.