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2015 World Junior Championships

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Eichel made way too many plays where he tried to do it all, that doesn't work when the talent level gets better.
 
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Eichel made way too many plays where he tried to do it all, that doesn't work when the talent level gets better.

interesting that y'all feel this way.. cause what we've been able to see of him for half a season so far is that is DOESN'T go and do enough on his own. he passes up shots to get his linemates involved (he has 3 & 14 less sog so far than his wingers).

the guys he is playing with now have developed enough chemistry to move and get themselves in position to be open for eichel. perhaps it was too much puck watching from his usa teammates this week that was the problem?
 
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That's exactly what he does at BU
BU is an 8-10 Hockey East team without him
 
then had to be told to do so, cause that is not what happens at bu

Last I checked he wasn't playing with BU at the World Juniors.

Who knows why he felt he had to do too much. And the fact he felt he had to or decided he wanted to wasn't the team's only problem. It was a big reason why his performance was rather underwhelming though. He's young, and clearly talented. Hopefully he (and others) learn from this.
 
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That's exactly what he does at BU
BU is an 8-10 Hockey East team without him

Agreed. I've seen BU play a few times and much like the WJ team, lots of standing around and watching Eichel.

BU does not make the NCAAs without Eichel this year.
 
Agreed. I've seen BU play a few times and much like the WJ team, lots of standing around and watching Eichel.

BU does not make the NCAAs without Eichel this year.

We'll never know the answer to that question. Where would BC have been w/o Gaudreau? Lowell w/o a goalie last year?the list goes on and the task of getting the next great prospect never ends
 
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We'll never know the answer to that question. Where would BC have been w/o Gaudreau? Lowell w/o a goalie last year?the list goes on and the task of getting the next great prospect never ends

Lowell without a goalie would probably give up at least 20 goals a game. That would be hard to win with I agree. Alas Conner was 19 when he started at Lowell and didn't catch his stride till after world juniors (not that he deserved an invite based on his first three NCAA performances that year). But I think the interesting point earlier was that we are a bit reliant on the NTDP players when there are plenty of good players coming out of the USHL and otherwise. The team this year seemed very 18yo heavy, which is nice for next year, but not great for winning this year.
 
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We'll never know the answer to that question.

well, let's just see what BU looks like next year without him! ;)

not gonna pretend to know what forwards left off the team could have made a difference, but am curious to see if people on here have some names. and, how much did Eichel, Tuch and Milano play together? I didn't see as much of the games as I had hoped. But, when I did, just didn't see the scoring chances. Think playing those three together more may have been a good move based on their chemistry playing together last year.
 
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Love college hockey, but Eichel needs to leave immediately for the Q.

I agree. USA Hockey is coddling him way to much. He needs to get a lot tougher for the NHL. I'm sick of his mom on TV saying she doesn't care if he goes 1 or 2. AYFKM?! His stock just went down, he'll be lucky to go 2.
 
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well, let's just see what BU looks like next year without him! ;)

not gonna pretend to know what forwards left off the team could have made a difference, but am curious to see if people on here have some names. and, how much did Eichel, Tuch and Milano play together? I didn't see as much of the games as I had hoped. But, when I did, just didn't see the scoring chances. Think playing those three together more may have been a good move based on their chemistry playing together last year.
Chris Dilks was warning of scoring issues since the time initial roster invites were made. Names I think he mentioned up front that maybe could have provided some skill included Kyle Connor, Justin Bailey and Jeremy Bracco.
 
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I agree. USA Hockey is coddling him way to much. He needs to get a lot tougher for the NHL. I'm sick of his mom on TV saying she doesn't care if he goes 1 or 2. AYFKM?! His stock just went down, he'll be lucky to go 2.

If an NHL scout drops Jack Eichel from his list based one sub-par game and a "My God, he wasn't other worldly!" tournament, then that stupid-*** team deserves what they get.

He's a playmaker, who can skate and launch a wicked wrister. He needs to develop a little more grit and corner muscle. One tournament does not define a player.
 
If an NHL scout drops Jack Eichel from his list based one sub-par game and a "My God, he wasn't other worldly!" tournament, then that stupid-*** team deserves what they get.

He's a playmaker, who can skate and launch a wicked wrister. He needs to develop a little more grit and corner muscle. One tournament does not define a player.

And leadership.....
 
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If an NHL scout drops Jack Eichel from his list based one sub-par game and a "My God, he wasn't other worldly!" tournament, then that stupid-*** team deserves what they get.

He's a playmaker, who can skate and launch a wicked wrister. He needs to develop a little more grit and corner muscle. One tournament does not define a player.

A tournament might not define a player, but it can certainly expose one. What I saw was a guy that wasn't much of a team player, and trying to win on talent alone.
 
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Re: Eichel (and McDavid thus far) what I did not see was a player that can come into the NHL next year and turn a losing team into a middling or good one. Not to say they won't be productive players, even soon, but if you're a fan of the Oilers or Hurricanes or any of the other bottom feeders (like my Devils) I don't think they make that big of a change in the fortunes of those teams for next season.
 
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A tournament might not define a player, but it can certainly expose one. What I saw was a guy that wasn't much of a team player, and trying to win on talent alone.

That's crap. He IS a team player. And a leader.
 
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Re: Eichel (and McDavid thus far) what I did not see was a player that can come into the NHL next year and turn a losing team into a middling or good one. Not to say they won't be productive players, even soon, but if you're a fan of the Oilers or Hurricanes or any of the other bottom feeders (like my Devils) I don't think they make that big of a change in the fortunes of those teams for next season.

Good, then maybe we get a second year of Eichel on Comm Ave. :)
 
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