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2015-2016 Coaching Changes

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Twelve years ago if you had asked a dozen female recruits on either side of the Wisconsin border I doubt more than 2 would have known who Mark Johnson was either. I think Harrington would make a fine coach at Mankato not because he played on the 80 Olympic team, but because of who he is.
 
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Twelve years ago if you had asked a dozen female recruits on either side of the Wisconsin border I doubt more than 2 would have known who Mark Johnson was either. I think Harrington would make a fine coach at Mankato not because he played on the 80 Olympic team, but because of who he is.

Agree. Mankato needs a proven coach, period. I think this is a no-brainer.
 
Twelve years ago if you had asked a dozen female recruits on either side of the Wisconsin border I doubt more than 2 would have known who Mark Johnson was either. I think Harrington would make a fine coach at Mankato not because he played on the 80 Olympic team, but because of who he is.

Schuler is well known in Canadian hockey circles as a result of her role(s) with Hockey Canada. She could be attractive as a coach for some of the Canadian talent. Battling UM, UMD and Bemidji for Minnesota talent is a struggle. She recruited well for UMD.
 
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Schuler is well known in Canadian hockey circles as a result of her role(s) with Hockey Canada. She could be attractive as a coach for some of the Canadian talent. Battling UM, UMD and Bemidji for Minnesota talent is a struggle. She recruited well for UMD.
Great point. MSU is going to need to recruit strongly from outside the state of Minnesota if they're going to progress and compete with the best in the WCHA and elsewhere. Certainly includes Canada.

Considering the competition for the top players in state. Any connections a candidate may have in that regard is not really an intangible...but an imperative for MSU, I think.
 
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Great point. MSU is going to need to recruit strongly from outside the state of Minnesota if they're going to progress and compete with the best in the WCHA and elsewhere. Certainly includes Canada.

Considering the competition for the top players in state. Any connections a candidate may have in that regard is not really an intangible...but an imperative for MSU, I think.

I don't think that a mid-50's man (and I would agree that most folks will have to be told or reminded that he played on the 1980 Olympic team) who hasn't been coaching women's hockey is the right fit here. Schuler would be my choice off the write-ups.
 
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I don't think that a mid-50's man (and I would agree that most folks will have to be told or reminded that he played on the 1980 Olympic team) who hasn't been coaching women's hockey is the right fit here. Schuler would be my choice off the write-ups.
For the record, I'm not the one who disagrees with that.
 
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I don't think that a mid-50's man ...
Hopefully, you don't work in H.R., or anywhere else where people are hired and laws need to be followed.

People seem to want to hire coaches based on name recognition. That sounds good at the time the hire is made, but as L268 says, that will fade quickly in importance. Laura Schuler's name is known to more recruits, but her name recognition isn't always a positive. Northeastern wasn't heading in a good direction when she stepped down, and UMD's recruiting wasn't exactly trending upward while she was there. All three have enough of a coaching resume that their playing resumes are basically meaningless at this point. None of us know what vision for the Minnesota State program each of the candidates has or ideas as to how to execute that plan. Those making the hire should, and they can get a sense from an interview and the coach's track record how likely it is that those goals are achievable. Mark Johnson is still coaching at Wisconsin not because he was on the '80 Olympic team, but because he could coach and demonstrated success in Madison before the movie "Miracle" came out and a new generation learned his history. People like John Harrington and Jennie Potter will succeed or fail because they can recruit, teach hockey, and get players to work for them; owning a gold medal will become insignificant in a hurry.

I've only heard good things about Amber Fryklund as a coach and has been recruiting the same pool of recruits for many years, so unless someone has a reason based on something other than his/her own ignorance, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss her from the equation.
 
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Hopefully, you don't work in H.R., or anywhere else where people are hired and laws need to be followed.

People seem to want to hire coaches based on name recognition. That sounds good at the time the hire is made, but as L268 says, that will fade quickly in importance. Laura Schuler's name is known to more recruits, but her name recognition isn't always a positive. Northeastern wasn't heading in a good direction when she stepped down, and UMD's recruiting wasn't exactly trending upward while she was there. All three have enough of a coaching resume that their playing resumes are basically meaningless at this point. None of us know what vision for the Minnesota State program each of the candidates has or ideas as to how to execute that plan. Those making the hire should, and they can get a sense from an interview and the coach's track record how likely it is that those goals are achievable. Mark Johnson is still coaching at Wisconsin not because he was on the '80 Olympic team, but because he could coach and demonstrated success in Madison before the movie "Miracle" came out and a new generation learned his history. People like John Harrington and Jennie Potter will succeed or fail because they can recruit, teach hockey, and get players to work for them; owning a gold medal will become insignificant in a hurry.

I've only heard good things about Amber Fryklund as a coach and has been recruiting the same pool of recruits for many years, so unless someone has a reason based on something other than his/her own ignorance, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss her from the equation.

Well Said.
 
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I don't think that a mid-50's man (and I would agree that most folks will have to be told or reminded that he played on the 1980 Olympic team) who hasn't been coaching women's hockey is the right fit here. Schuler would be my choice off the write-ups.

I could just agree with what ARM said but what's the fun of that? Instead I'll say this: "I don't think that a mid-50's man (and I would agree that most folks will have to be told or reminded that he played on the 1980 Olympic team) who hasn't been coaching women's hockey is the right fit here."
I bet there are some folks in Madison that are glad you were not on the selection committee. :)

But the truth is nobody really knows how to reliably identify a winning coach and there is no one set of criteria that is a sure-fire proof. Sports are littered with coaches who were winners in one place & then meh when they changed teams as well as people who had no real experience but produce results.
 
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I like the up-and-comer Frykland. Illinoisdad did a nice job putting together info on the candidates, thanks for that. Too bad Moira Crowell isn't in the running, good for UMD, though.
 
MSU: First two were finalists last year at Bemidji and St Cloud; Schuler was a finalist this year at UMD.

So, do they want an up-in-coming women's coach; experienced men's coach; or an experienced women's coach?

I would vote for Schuler.
I like all three options. To me Harrington is the wild card. You just had a coach resign with a majority of his background in the men's game. Granted, it didn't seem to hurt Mark Johnson at all.
 
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I like the up-and-comer Frykland. Illinoisdad did a nice job putting together info on the candidates, thanks for that. Too bad Moira Crowell isn't in the running, good for UMD, though.

(Copied press release.) I think they all offer something a little different. I don't think I've picked the right one of 3 for last couple years. So, me saying Schuler probably knocked her out.
 
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Considering the success Brett Bruininks had at Concordia-Moorehead I would have thought he would have been a prime candidate. Here's his 3 year record there:

W-L-T Win %
2012-13 13-8-5 .596
2011-12 15-6-5 .673
2010-11 15-8-4 .630
Career: 43-22-14 .633

I think Mankato would be pretty happy with a .633 overall winning percentage compared to their .097 overall winning percentage this season (yes, I know it's a big assumption that he would be able to have the same success but you get the point).
 
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Considering the success Brett Bruininks had at Concordia-Moorehead I would have thought he would have been a prime candidate. Here's his 3 year record there:

W-L-T Win %
2012-13 13-8-5 .596
2011-12 15-6-5 .673
2010-11 15-8-4 .630
Career: 43-22-14 .633

I think Mankato would be pretty happy with a .633 overall winning percentage compared to their .097 overall winning percentage this season (yes, I know it's a big assumption that he would be able to have the same success but you get the point).
I thought I heard that he took a non-coaching job somewhere after Means resigned.
 
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Yeah, this. And I have nothing against Coach Kenneally (don't feel I can call him Bob) personally. Only thing I know about him is a press release talking extensively about his work as an associate athletic director, time as a women's golf coach, his role as sports supervisor of the men's ice hockey team (what is that?), and his deep knowledge of Brown admission policies. What I don't have is any shred of evidence that he is the least bit qualified to be a D1 women's ice hockey head coach.

I'd say that the fact that current and former Brown women's hockey players who all know him well and think he's a terrific choice makes him especially well qualified.
 
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ne7minder: "I could just agree with what ARM said but what's the fun of that?"


Okay, I have been duly chastised for agreeing with ARM. It's just that I was so surprised when he said that there is really no telling how a new coach is going to do since there are so many variables involved in their success or failure. Oh wait a minute, maybe that was someone else's post. Never mind.
 
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