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2015-2016 Coaching Changes

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charlieconway said:
Shannon Miller's legal team is having a field day chasing a frivolous case on her dime.
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on her dime?

most likely contingency or pro bono

osualum86 said:
... Shannon Miller... She does know how to build a championship program, though. Cannot argue with five National Titles at UMD.
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the method she used to do it is no longer valid

D2D said:
And Miller did say that she would have been willing to negotiate a lower salary, albeit after the university had already decided to non-renew her contract.
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you'd extend someone's employment to a lower salary after they've said on numerous occasions they are underpaid? :confused:
 
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pokechecker said:
you'd extend someone's employment to a lower salary after they've said on numerous occasions they are underpaid? :confused:
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Did she make those comments before she knew that her contract was not going to be renewed or did she only say that she thought she was underpaid as part of her legal strategy?

Also, it is confusing to me that she repeatedly has said that during the December meeting with the AD that she was willing to take a pay cut but is now taking the stance that she was underpaid as part of her discrimination claim. Which one is it?
 
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A lawyer working on a percentage basis with a small or no retainer is still "hired". The publicity alone of taking this case is worth it even if they charge nothing.
 
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Pick1 said:
Hopefully the Gustie's HC isn't interested in this gig! I could be wrong but I thought I read that Means was making 81k to coach the women's team? That seems low and not sure how much interest MSU will draw without being lenient with that type of low salary.

Not big news to everyone here but Hamline's (MIAC) women's coach is no longer there and the rumor is that Natalie Darwitz will/could be the new HC there.
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I wouldn't be at all shocked if Coach Carroll has been contacted at least. He has ties to the Mankato community. His brother was an All-American goalie when they won their National Title in 1980. Mike coached at Mankato West for a number of years before going to GAC, and also ran All Seasons Arena. I got to know him a little when I was a student manager there in the mid 90s, and I thought he was a very stand-up guy.

As for all the UMD talk, can we stop with the "Shannon Miller was fired stuff"? Her contract wasn't renewed people. There isn't anything illegal about that last time I checked. I am curious to see who they get to replace her. I will be shocked if it's Coach Sisti. Given the climate up there with regarding male vs female coach paychecks, they almost have to go female. If they don't they give Miller's lawyers some ammo for the witch hunt.
 
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taz91 said:
As for all the UMD talk, I am curious to see who they get to replace her. I will be shocked if it's Coach Sisti. Given the climate up there with regarding male vs female coach paychecks, they almost have to go female. If they don't they give Miller's lawyers some ammo for the witch hunt.
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There are some that see coaching female teams as a birthright for women, rather than something that has to be earned
This is particularly true of older women
From a legal perspective, I’d be interested to hear from you legal experts what that might be
 
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pokechecker said:
There are some that see coaching <strike>fe</strike>male teams as a birthright for <strike>wo</strike>men, rather than something that has to be earned
This is particularly true of older women
From a legal perspective, I’d be interested to hear from you legal experts what that might be
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Funny how only one side of this coin gets criticized.
 
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pokechecker said:
There are some that see coaching female teams as a birthright for women, rather than something that has to be earned
This is particularly true of older women
From a legal perspective, I’d be interested to hear from you legal experts what that might be
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As soon as anyone can predict with 100% certainty which choice will be a better coach the whole thing is about opinions, emotions and guesswork. That means if the choice comes down to 2 people with similar experience and similar skills it's a crapshoot which one will produce the best results. That being true, I would always pull for the woman simply because women have always been excluded for no other reason than the XX. Then there is the complaint heard here before that there is no place for women to go after their amature days are done. Opening well paid slots in coaching is a place many are qualified for & might like to experience.

The 3 mentioned for UMD are a bit different as Sisti has a record as a head coach & the 2 women only as assistants so experience is not equal but the school still has to decide on personality and what each would bring to their program. There is no legal reason to favor one over the other but it would be good for the sport if more women took the lead and, in my worthless opinion, good for society - which should not be a consideration unless its a coin-toss decision.
 
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ne7minder said:
The 3 mentioned for UMD are a bit different as Sisti has a record as a head coach & the 2 women only as assistants so experience is not equal ...
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Schuler was head coach at Northeastern. Crowell was an interim coach at Harvard. So neither is totally devoid of head-coaching experience, although not as veteran as Sisti in that regard.
 
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ARM said:
Schuler was head coach at Northeastern. Crowell was an interim coach at Harvard. So neither is totally devoid of head-coaching experience, although not as veteran as Sisti in that regard.
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I was unaware of Schulers HC job so thanks. But yeah, Sisti still leads in that one area. All three are qualified anyway so the choice will have a lot of factors that need to be considered.
 
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ARM said:
Schuler was head coach at Northeastern. Crowell was an interim coach at Harvard. So neither is totally devoid of head-coaching experience, although not as veteran as Sisti in that regard.
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Both Schuler and Crowell were head coaches at UMass-Boston, Schuler for one season and Crowell for 5 seasons:


Massachusetts-Boston Women's Hockey
Team History:

Massachusetts-Boston Beacons • ECAC D-III East • NCAA Division III

Season Coach Conference Div W L T Win %

2014-15 Colleen Harris ECAC D-III East III 10 13 4 .444
2013-14 Colleen Harris ECAC D-III East III 12 11 4 .519
2012-13 Colleen Harris ECAC D-III East III 9 14 4 .407
2011-12 Colleen Harris ECAC D-III East III 7 15 3 .340
2010-11 Colleen Harris ECAC D-III East III 14 11 1 .558
2009-10 Maura Crowell ECAC D-III East III 17 10 0 .630
2008-09 Maura Crowell ECAC D-III East III 13 11 2 .538
2007-08 Maura Crowell ECAC D-III East III 14 12 0 .538
2006-07 Maura Crowell ECAC D-III East III 14 12 1 .537
2005-06 Maura Crowell ECAC D-III East III 12 6 1 .658
2004-05 Melisa Heitzman ECAC D-III East III 10 14 1 .420
2003-04 Laura Schuler ECAC D-III East III 13 12 1 .519
145 141 22 .506
 
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knight7 said:
Brown has a new Head Coach- Robert Kenneally.

He will be stepping down from the Executive Associate Director of Athletics at Brown to coach the womens' team.

http://brownbears.com/sports/w-hockey/2014-15/releases/201504019sd59f
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Wow. This person comes in with a lot of credentials. Not only that, he is very familiar with the ins and outs at Brown, and that will surely help with the admissions process, always a challenge with the high academic standards required to get into this school.
 
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ne7minder said:
I was unaware of Schulers HC job so thanks. But yeah, Sisti still leads in that one area. All three are qualified anyway so the choice will have a lot of factors that need to be considered.
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actually not if you look at the job requirements
 
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pucko said:
....Am I missing something from the article? What is his actual COACHING experience?
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"He joined the Brown staff in 1991, and has held a myriad of positions within the Brown Athletic Department, including successfully guiding the men's and women's golf program as head coach/Director of Golf Operations from 1998-2002. "

A golf club I guess is something like a hockey stick. :rolleyes:
 
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vicb said:
"He joined the Brown staff in 1991, and has held a myriad of positions within the Brown Athletic Department, including successfully guiding the men's and women's golf program as head coach/Director of Golf Operations from 1998-2002. "

A golf club I guess is something like a hockey stick. :rolleyes:
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Let's not overthink this people. It's not like the women's team at Brown is some NHL team he's taking over. He was a high end player on the men's team there, so I think he'll be ok since he played a higher level of hockey than any of the women on the current team. The fact he seems to have little coaching experience at all and none whatsoever in women's hockey is an insult to all applicants that applied that actually do have experience coaching women's hockey at the college level. Someone aught to tell Shannon Miller about this sexist atrocity too. He'll need to keep his assistants so they can help him learn the women's game and how to deal with female student-athletes, so I guess the good news is those two coaches are safe because he'd be an absolute idiot to clear house like so many head coaches do when they take over a program. This was a very convenient hire for Brown (no moving expenses) and probably not the first easy hire in the history of college athletics. We'll see what happens with the team in the next two to three years.
 
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