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2015-16 New England Patriots

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Not that it matters but nice clock management by the steelers
 
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Rexmen choked, so Pats can essentially cinch the division next week. What a crappy division. If it weren't for the debacle against Buffalo, the division would be cinched already.
 
CLS said:
Textbook execution of the defer-on-the-coin-flip gambit.
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It was good to see Rex lose. I noticed he wasn't all bluster this week. Probably hurt his chances.

Good timing for bye week. It's obvious Bennett needs it. Dion should be ready to go after it. Donta needs it also.
 
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Collins traded to Browns (?) for 3rd round pick. According to Deadspin, he wanted "Von Miller" money.
 
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ShirtlessBob said:
Collins traded to Browns (?) for 3rd round pick. According to Deadspin, he wanted "Von Miller" money.
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Can't figure this one out. Wouldn't it have been better to just use him all year then let him walk and get a pick that way?
 
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Rover said:
Can't figure this one out. Wouldn't it have been better to just use him all year then let him walk and get a pick that way?
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Can't figure this out either, unless:

(1) They think his performance has dropped off to the point that other people can replace him, in which case all they're really risking is depth;

(2) They think that there will be a lot of compensatory picks and any compensatory pick they get would be a lot lower than Cleveland's; and

(3) They see value letting others like Hightower, Butler, etc. who are up for negotiation at the end of the year know what happens to people who want big bucks.

Not defending them at all; I don't like this move. Just sayin'.
 
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CLS said:
Can't figure this out either, unless:

(1) They think his performance has dropped off to the point that other people can replace him, in which case all they're really risking is depth;

(2) They think that there will be a lot of compensatory picks and any compensatory pick they get would be a lot lower than Cleveland's; and

(3) They see value letting others like Hightower, Butler, etc. who are up for negotiation at the end of the year know what happens to people who want big bucks.

Not defending them at all; I don't like this move. Just sayin'.
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Just thought this through, and regarding (2), I'm assuming that the draft pick they're getting is in the 2017 draft, whereas the pick they would get from letting him walk is in the 2018 draft. If that's true (someone please correct me if I'm wrong, I don't understand how it works), then it's not only a better pick, but it's a year earlier.
 
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the real concern is that they are on bye and not going to provide mookie with free money this week :(
 
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My problem with this move is that it makes the team worse this year with no benefit for this season. Belichick has this problem on occasion, as not resigning Ty Law and Dion Branch most likely cost them at least one Super Bowl and maybe two. I understand the notion of keeping the team consistently good and hoping you break through once in awhile but they did go 10 years without a title and Brady's not getting any younger. Sometimes you sacrifice the future to win NOW!. There's no great teams out there in the NFL in either league that they shouldn't be able to get through. Let some of these guys go to free agency if needed.
 
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Rover said:
My problem with this move is that it makes the team worse this year with no benefit for this season. Belichick has this problem on occasion, as not resigning Ty Law and Dion Branch most likely cost them at least one Super Bowl and maybe two. I understand the notion of keeping the team consistently good and hoping you break through once in awhile but they did go 10 years without a title and Brady's not getting any younger. Sometimes you sacrifice the future to win NOW!. There's no great teams out there in the NFL in either league that they shouldn't be able to get through. Let some of these guys go to free agency if needed.
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From what I've heard he wasn't listening to the coaches and what I've seen he s*cked in coverage. Not sure what you mean by "sacrificing the future to win now" but Collins' was not traded to stockpile draft picks.
 
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SonofSouthie said:
From what I've heard he wasn't listening to the coaches and what I've seen he s*cked in coverage. Not sure what you mean by "sacrificing the future to win now" but Collins' was not traded to stockpile draft picks.
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I get a bit skeptical since this is the first I've heard of that, and the local media practically has reporters embedded in the locker room shower.

I completely get not paying the guy Von Miller money and can also see him asking for it. Same issue was with Chandler Jones in that what he was going to ask for, and what some idiot team was going to give him, was more than it was worth. I just doubt whoever's filling in for Collins now is a better player.
 
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