Re: 2014 NCAA Frozen Four: Mercyhurst Lakers vs. Clarkson Golden Knights
Awesome idea. Thanks. I agree he's good.
Awesome idea. Thanks. I agree he's good.
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2014 NCAA Frozen Four: Mercyhurst Lakers vs. Clarkson Golden Knights
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Re: 2014 NCAA Frozen Four: Mercyhurst Lakers vs. Clarkson Golden Knights
When Clarkson came to Bright-Landry last month, I noticed how structured they were in their D zone. Positioning is key to their system and they play it very well. They also display a great amount of patience and rarely panic with the puck. They will need a lot of that tomorrow afternoon. Also wondering if Howe has faced more than 30 shots in a game this year. Seems like Clarkson really minimizes scoring chances and if that trend holds true tomorrow, well, you never know. A bounce of the puck, a giveaway, an ill-timed penalty, they can all add up. That may be asking for too much but in a winner take all game, individual plays and situations get magnified a thousand times over.
When Clarkson came to Bright-Landry last month, I noticed how structured they were in their D zone. Positioning is key to their system and they play it very well. They also display a great amount of patience and rarely panic with the puck. They will need a lot of that tomorrow afternoon. Also wondering if Howe has faced more than 30 shots in a game this year. Seems like Clarkson really minimizes scoring chances and if that trend holds true tomorrow, well, you never know. A bounce of the puck, a giveaway, an ill-timed penalty, they can all add up. That may be asking for too much but in a winner take all game, individual plays and situations get magnified a thousand times over.
Re: 2014 NCAA Frozen Four: Mercyhurst Lakers vs. Clarkson Golden Knights
I can't speak to the video announcers because I attend the games in person although from the recap videos of the broadcasts, I really didn't hear any egregious announcing or potshots. The radio guys are fairly even handed and sometimes err on the side of impartiality when calling a game. So I think your comment is on the harsh side. And I'm being kind here.
I can't speak to the video announcers because I attend the games in person although from the recap videos of the broadcasts, I really didn't hear any egregious announcing or potshots. The radio guys are fairly even handed and sometimes err on the side of impartiality when calling a game. So I think your comment is on the harsh side. And I'm being kind here.
Re: 2014 NCAA Frozen Four: Mercyhurst Lakers vs. Clarkson Golden Knights
The most shots Howe has faced in any game this year is 28, the team, Mercyhurst back in October. In the last 8 games, Howe has only faced more than 20 SOG once, BC had 24 and in the last 10 games the most goals Clarkson has given up in any game is 1. With Minnesota's speed and skill I would expect that Howe and her defense will have to play their best game of the year for Clarkson to have any chance and Clarkson is gonna have to solve Leveille and the Minny Defense. I do not believe that this game will be a 2-1 or 3-2 game. My guess is Clarkson will have to get 4 or 5 goals to win and I am not sure that Minny's defense and Leveille will give up that many.
The most shots Howe has faced in any game this year is 28, the team, Mercyhurst back in October. In the last 8 games, Howe has only faced more than 20 SOG once, BC had 24 and in the last 10 games the most goals Clarkson has given up in any game is 1. With Minnesota's speed and skill I would expect that Howe and her defense will have to play their best game of the year for Clarkson to have any chance and Clarkson is gonna have to solve Leveille and the Minny Defense. I do not believe that this game will be a 2-1 or 3-2 game. My guess is Clarkson will have to get 4 or 5 goals to win and I am not sure that Minny's defense and Leveille will give up that many.
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Blackbeard
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Re: 2014 NCAA Frozen Four: Mercyhurst Lakers vs. Clarkson Golden Knights
More importantly, she also for some strange reason chose to try to go around Gray instead of skating in a straight line to get in front of Gray. That allowed Gray to get the shot off which was deflected by Wong and in. "The shot that was heard around the Bulldog world".
Could never understand why Rougeau did that...it made no sense to me. If she had chosen the logical route Gray would never have been able to get that shot off.
More importantly, she also for some strange reason chose to try to go around Gray instead of skating in a straight line to get in front of Gray. That allowed Gray to get the shot off which was deflected by Wong and in. "The shot that was heard around the Bulldog world".
Could never understand why Rougeau did that...it made no sense to me. If she had chosen the logical route Gray would never have been able to get that shot off.
ARM
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I tend to think it is more likely to be a low-scoring affair. It's been a long time since Clarkson has allowed more than a goal in a game; Minnesota hasn't allowed more than three in over two years. It doesn't set up to be a 5-4 shootout.
Having said that, I didn't expect to see eight goals scored in UW vs UM either. Part of the reason for that is the Badgers chose to play more aggressively against Minnesota. That gave UW offensive chances, but it also opened the game up at times. I'm not sure that Clarkson will opt for the same strategy.
OnMAA
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Re: 2014 NCAA Frozen Four: Mercyhurst Lakers vs. Clarkson Golden Knights
Ok Thanks, but you can't tell me that the ECAC tourney has nothing to do with the NCAA seeding. My point was that the winner of the ECAC tourney is typically the higher seed, to likely face Mercyhurst which typically appears to be one of the lower seeds. Having said that, I do realize that the MU vs Cornell match is a more likely one than a Harvard - MU one due to the travel distance. (Save a flight). Long story short, I think both points have some merit.
My other point was, based on current knowledge of who is leaving and who is coming, would suspect that the Crimson will be one of if not the pre-season favorite in the ECAC, with Cornell being the other team in consideration. Both have Olympians coming back, and some good players returning. Teams like Clarkson will be in rebuild/reload mode, with a heavy senior laden team this year.
Ok Thanks, but you can't tell me that the ECAC tourney has nothing to do with the NCAA seeding. My point was that the winner of the ECAC tourney is typically the higher seed, to likely face Mercyhurst which typically appears to be one of the lower seeds. Having said that, I do realize that the MU vs Cornell match is a more likely one than a Harvard - MU one due to the travel distance. (Save a flight). Long story short, I think both points have some merit.
My other point was, based on current knowledge of who is leaving and who is coming, would suspect that the Crimson will be one of if not the pre-season favorite in the ECAC, with Cornell being the other team in consideration. Both have Olympians coming back, and some good players returning. Teams like Clarkson will be in rebuild/reload mode, with a heavy senior laden team this year.
Re: 2014 NCAA Frozen Four: Mercyhurst Lakers vs. Clarkson Golden Knights
Then it's a good thing no one tried to do so.
Then it's a good thing no one tried to do so.
FireKnight
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Re: 2014 NCAA Frozen Four: Mercyhurst Lakers vs. Clarkson Golden Knights
Poor sentence structure on my part
( and should have said "ECAC tourney Result").
Poor sentence structure on my part
( and should have said "ECAC tourney Result").Re: 2014 NCAA Frozen Four: Mercyhurst Lakers vs. Clarkson Golden Knights
I think you have to. I think the only way Clarkson wins is by applying serious pressure to the Gopher defense with a forecheck. If you give them time to set up, I don't see you being able to bottle them up the way you did Mercyhurst last night. Note that the period Wisconsin attacked the most aggressively yesterday was the one they dominated; the same was true back in October. The only team that had any success against Minnesota without being very aggressive was Ohio State in one game when the Gophers also made a lot of sloppy mistakes I don't expect to see tomorrow.
Yeah, that leaves you open to being burned badly but I think the best case alternative is hanging around for a couple of periods before Minnesota puts the game away.
I think you have to. I think the only way Clarkson wins is by applying serious pressure to the Gopher defense with a forecheck. If you give them time to set up, I don't see you being able to bottle them up the way you did Mercyhurst last night. Note that the period Wisconsin attacked the most aggressively yesterday was the one they dominated; the same was true back in October. The only team that had any success against Minnesota without being very aggressive was Ohio State in one game when the Gophers also made a lot of sloppy mistakes I don't expect to see tomorrow.
Yeah, that leaves you open to being burned badly but I think the best case alternative is hanging around for a couple of periods before Minnesota puts the game away.
OnMAA
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Re: 2014 NCAA Frozen Four: Mercyhurst Lakers vs. Clarkson Golden Knights
Agree. Clarky's best chance to win is a low-scoring affair with great D and great Goal tending while cashing in on their opportunities. It could be similar to the ECAC final, a 1-0 affair. What worries me is that the last time Clarky came of a strong win (ECAC Semi), they lost their next game in a tight affair.
This is also a very intriguing Goalie match-up. Both are graduates from the Ottawa Sens (PWHL) program.
Agree. Clarky's best chance to win is a low-scoring affair with great D and great Goal tending while cashing in on their opportunities. It could be similar to the ECAC final, a 1-0 affair. What worries me is that the last time Clarky came of a strong win (ECAC Semi), they lost their next game in a tight affair.
This is also a very intriguing Goalie match-up. Both are graduates from the Ottawa Sens (PWHL) program.
OnMAA
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Re: 2014 NCAA Frozen Four: Mercyhurst Lakers vs. Clarkson Golden Knights
This was in late in the third OT. Players would have been exhausted by then. Mental mistakes are more easily made. Cornell was pretty much rotating 4 D. That is a lot of ice time for 6 periods.
In the long run, things turned out really well for Ms Rougeau. Having a great career, including scoring the OT game winner in another electric 3 period OT (8-7 over BU, still kicking myself deciding last minute to NOT go to that game), and a Olympic gold medal around her neck. I still remember her playing on the same team as Poulin, Dumais, Oles and Cournoyer back when they were Peewee or Bantam aged. Her dad was the coach of that team.
This was in late in the third OT. Players would have been exhausted by then. Mental mistakes are more easily made. Cornell was pretty much rotating 4 D. That is a lot of ice time for 6 periods.
In the long run, things turned out really well for Ms Rougeau. Having a great career, including scoring the OT game winner in another electric 3 period OT (8-7 over BU, still kicking myself deciding last minute to NOT go to that game), and a Olympic gold medal around her neck. I still remember her playing on the same team as Poulin, Dumais, Oles and Cournoyer back when they were Peewee or Bantam aged. Her dad was the coach of that team.
FireKnight
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Re: 2014 NCAA Frozen Four: Mercyhurst Lakers vs. Clarkson Golden Knights
That doesn't worry me so much. Clarkson lost Ambrose late in the 3rd period against QU and had to come back 20 hours later and face a good Big Red team. Losing Erin wasn't simply a name in the lineup that could be replaced by another; every player on the team had some change in responsibility and assignment. That's hard to script and teach in 20 hours.
My biggest worry is the Minnesota team. Their D is bigger and stronger than anything we've seen, with the possible exception of Cornell's men's team (lol). However, they are more prone to mistakes from what I've read here and saw yesterday. Their forwards are talented and their crisp passing is something we haven't seen at all from any team.
That doesn't worry me so much. Clarkson lost Ambrose late in the 3rd period against QU and had to come back 20 hours later and face a good Big Red team. Losing Erin wasn't simply a name in the lineup that could be replaced by another; every player on the team had some change in responsibility and assignment. That's hard to script and teach in 20 hours.
My biggest worry is the Minnesota team. Their D is bigger and stronger than anything we've seen, with the possible exception of Cornell's men's team (lol). However, they are more prone to mistakes from what I've read here and saw yesterday. Their forwards are talented and their crisp passing is something we haven't seen at all from any team.
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LOL. You're about the last person I would expect to notice. Judging by comments I've heard from several sources, I'm definitely not alone in that opinion.
LOL. You're about the last person I would expect to notice. Judging by comments I've heard from several sources, I'm definitely not alone in that opinion.
Re: 2014 NCAA Frozen Four: Mercyhurst Lakers vs. Clarkson Golden Knights
Never have I been so right and yet glad to be so wrong.
Never have I been so right and yet glad to be so wrong.
OnMAA
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Good assessment pre-game. I mentioned this before after the BC and Mercyhurst games, but if there is one player that really stepped up, in my mind it was MacAuley. The way she played against BC was a great 200 foot game. The goal she scored today was an absolute beauty. Definitely a goal worthy being the championship clinching goal. Guess they can produce more than just potatoes on PEI. (Prince Edward Island).
The D as a whole also stepped up to fill the void, especially Renata Fast. She had a whale of a weekend.
Good assessment pre-game. I mentioned this before after the BC and Mercyhurst games, but if there is one player that really stepped up, in my mind it was MacAuley. The way she played against BC was a great 200 foot game. The goal she scored today was an absolute beauty. Definitely a goal worthy being the championship clinching goal. Guess they can produce more than just potatoes on PEI. (Prince Edward Island).
The D as a whole also stepped up to fill the void, especially Renata Fast. She had a whale of a weekend.
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Blackbeard
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She impressed me more than anyone else on the ice...she was everywhere.
She impressed me more than anyone else on the ice...she was everywhere.
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Re: 2014 NCAA Frozen Four: Mercyhurst Lakers vs. Clarkson Golden Knights
It's funny, all the talking heads! it really is just another game! women's hockey is a curious sport! I have heard from more than one of the great coaches the saying "On any day" on any day anyone might win! it's the team with the most consistency that gets it! case in point, Union the team on the bottom of the ECAC gave them "Clarkson" as good a game as any!!! In the last game of the regular season, Clarkson, tied with Cornell for the top spot, Union, at the bottom forced a overtime game "To a FULL strength Clarkson team" only to lose 2-1 in OT!!!! and the best part for that game was the announcer stating that the trophy was in the house in the second period! Congrat to Clarkson and the coaching staff for a well played game!!! and to Howe who should have been a KAZ top 10 contender!!!!
It's funny, all the talking heads! it really is just another game! women's hockey is a curious sport! I have heard from more than one of the great coaches the saying "On any day" on any day anyone might win! it's the team with the most consistency that gets it! case in point, Union the team on the bottom of the ECAC gave them "Clarkson" as good a game as any!!! In the last game of the regular season, Clarkson, tied with Cornell for the top spot, Union, at the bottom forced a overtime game "To a FULL strength Clarkson team" only to lose 2-1 in OT!!!! and the best part for that game was the announcer stating that the trophy was in the house in the second period! Congrat to Clarkson and the coaching staff for a well played game!!! and to Howe who should have been a KAZ top 10 contender!!!!