Re: 2014-15 College Football Part II: SEC vs World
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2014-15 College Football Part II: SEC vs World
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Heck, there's even a low-level bowl in Birmingham itself, the Birmingham Bowl. It's the SEC #9 versus the AAC #5, and both conferences have enough teams, but it would be a classy move by the SEC to recognize that they have that many bowl eligible teams thanks to the existence of teams like UAB.
Heck, there's even a low-level bowl in Birmingham itself, the Birmingham Bowl. It's the SEC #9 versus the AAC #5, and both conferences have enough teams, but it would be a classy move by the SEC to recognize that they have that many bowl eligible teams thanks to the existence of teams like UAB.
Spartanforlife4
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Well, since the front runner of the SEC is responsible for UAB not having a team anymore, probably not gonna happen. Plus Legion Field could collapse at any time, I'm surprised it isn't condemned. Though maybe the BoT were trying to destroy the UAB program that way through the years.
Well, since the front runner of the SEC is responsible for UAB not having a team anymore, probably not gonna happen. Plus Legion Field could collapse at any time, I'm surprised it isn't condemned. Though maybe the BoT were trying to destroy the UAB program that way through the years.
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6 and 6 teams...
Virginia Tech
Pittsburgh
North Carolina
Miami (FL)
UAB
Middle Tennessee State
Old Dominion
Fresno State
South Alabama
Temple
South Carolina
Tennessee
Arkansas
Ohio
Illinois
Penn State
Texas
Anybody I missed??
6 and 6 teams...
Virginia Tech
Pittsburgh
North Carolina
Miami (FL)
UAB
Middle Tennessee State
Old Dominion
Fresno State
South Alabama
Temple
South Carolina
Tennessee
Arkansas
Ohio
Illinois
Penn State
Texas
Anybody I missed??
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I agree about Riley. Not sure about that one. I was kind of excited about Scott Frost. Wouldn't it be nice if he could bring him in as his OC and groom him for the future which probably wouldn't be all that far away. Riley is 61 so I doubt he coaches at Nebraska beyond 5 years.
I agree about Riley. Not sure about that one. I was kind of excited about Scott Frost. Wouldn't it be nice if he could bring him in as his OC and groom him for the future which probably wouldn't be all that far away. Riley is 61 so I doubt he coaches at Nebraska beyond 5 years.
Spartanforlife4
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With the conference championships starting tonight with the Pac 12 and I think MAC, I thought I'd look back on my predictions from earlier this year. All I can say is... Not even close. (Bold teams are ones I picked to win)
ACC: Florida State vs. Duke
Couldn't actually find this one but I think this is what I would've had.
Big 12: Oklahoma
Other- Baylor third, TCU sixth. But if KSU beats Baylor I did pick them second, so that kinda counts for something.
Big 10: Iowa vs Michigan State
Other- Wisconsin third.
SEC: South Carolina vs Alabama
Other- My declaration the MS schools wouldn't be any good.
Pac 12: Stanford over UCLA
Playoff:
1. Florida State vs 4. Stanford
2. South Carolina vs. 3. Michigan State
Final: Stanford vs Michigan State
There's still like a 1% chance MSU makes it, so I won't cross them out just yet, but man did I do terrible this year.
With the conference championships starting tonight with the Pac 12 and I think MAC, I thought I'd look back on my predictions from earlier this year. All I can say is... Not even close. (Bold teams are ones I picked to win)
ACC: Florida State vs. Duke
Couldn't actually find this one but I think this is what I would've had.
Big 12: Oklahoma
Other- Baylor third, TCU sixth. But if KSU beats Baylor I did pick them second, so that kinda counts for something.
Big 10: Iowa vs Michigan State
Other- Wisconsin third.
SEC: South Carolina vs Alabama
Other- My declaration the MS schools wouldn't be any good.
Pac 12: Stanford over UCLA
Playoff:
1. Florida State vs 4. Stanford
2. South Carolina vs. 3. Michigan State
Final: Stanford vs Michigan State
There's still like a 1% chance MSU makes it, so I won't cross them out just yet, but man did I do terrible this year.
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Riley is hard to read. Some years in the Pac his Beavers have way overachieved compared to what they are expected to do, while other years they've just kind of muddled along. And they've had a bad habit of losing a non-conference game or games early on that you really would expect them to win. Then they'd go on a great run in the Pac and people would largely forget about the early season foibles. He's not someone I'd think of Nebraska going after, but he could work out well. He should have a shot at coaching a higher talent level at Nebraska than he typically had in Corvallis. It'll be interesting to see how he does.
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What's the scenario where Michigan State makes it?
There is no way they jump Alabama, so they are better off with Alabama winning to eliminate any sentiment that Missouri might jump over MSU. So we have Alabama at #1.
There is no way that Michigan State jumps the winner of the Pac 12 Title game, and there is a strong possibility that if Oregon lost they would still be ahead of MSU, so probably best if Oregon wins. So we have Oregon at #2.
After that, someone out of TCU, Baylor, and Kansas State will win (or be co-champs) of the Big 12. If TCU and Baylor both lose, Kansas State would be Big 12 champs, and would jump MSU. If either Baylor or TCU win, they will be ahead of MSU. It is probably best for any slim hopes for Michigan State that Baylor wins convincingly over Kansas State, and TCU gets beat. In that scenario, we have Baylor at either #3 or #4.
So that leaves the last spot. Obviously, Florida State and Ohio State would have to lose to make room for any possible hope that Michigan State might have. The problem is, the committee is required to take conference champions unless a team is unequivocally a top 4 team in the country (despite not winning their conference). As a result, in this scenario, I think the final spot would go to Georgia Tech.
I honestly don't see any route for Michigan State to reach the top 4, but maybe someone else has found a way that I am overlooking?
What's the scenario where Michigan State makes it?
There is no way they jump Alabama, so they are better off with Alabama winning to eliminate any sentiment that Missouri might jump over MSU. So we have Alabama at #1.
There is no way that Michigan State jumps the winner of the Pac 12 Title game, and there is a strong possibility that if Oregon lost they would still be ahead of MSU, so probably best if Oregon wins. So we have Oregon at #2.
After that, someone out of TCU, Baylor, and Kansas State will win (or be co-champs) of the Big 12. If TCU and Baylor both lose, Kansas State would be Big 12 champs, and would jump MSU. If either Baylor or TCU win, they will be ahead of MSU. It is probably best for any slim hopes for Michigan State that Baylor wins convincingly over Kansas State, and TCU gets beat. In that scenario, we have Baylor at either #3 or #4.
So that leaves the last spot. Obviously, Florida State and Ohio State would have to lose to make room for any possible hope that Michigan State might have. The problem is, the committee is required to take conference champions unless a team is unequivocally a top 4 team in the country (despite not winning their conference). As a result, in this scenario, I think the final spot would go to Georgia Tech.
I honestly don't see any route for Michigan State to reach the top 4, but maybe someone else has found a way that I am overlooking?
ScoobyDoo
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I was wondering the same thing.
I was wondering the same thing.
Spartanforlife4
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I don't actually know, but I saw the headline to an article titled "Michigan State's playoff hopes aren't non-existant just yet."
It's probably some scenario where it is actually non-existant or involves a plane crash or something so I didn't even click on it, but I'm guessing it has to do with Missouri winning like 56-0 and then MSU somehow getting in because their two losses were to playoff teams or something. Not really sure, I'm just holding onto a thread of hope.
I don't actually know, but I saw the headline to an article titled "Michigan State's playoff hopes aren't non-existant just yet."
It's probably some scenario where it is actually non-existant or involves a plane crash or something so I didn't even click on it, but I'm guessing it has to do with Missouri winning like 56-0 and then MSU somehow getting in because their two losses were to playoff teams or something. Not really sure, I'm just holding onto a thread of hope.
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Gotcha. I don't see it as a possibility, but that doesn't mean it can't happen.
What is interesting though, is that Georgia Tech appears to have a realistic outside shot of making the playoff. If Alabama, Oregon, and TCU all win, Kansas State beats Baylor, Wisconsin knocks of Ohio State, and Georgia Tech looks strong in beating the Criminoles, the Jackets would have an extremely strong case for the #4 slot. Assuming that Georgia Tech would stay ahead of Wisconsin (they are playing a higher ranked team, and are currently ranked ahead of Wisconsin), I think it would come down to a battle between K-state and Tech for the last playoff spot. Kansas State has better losses, but Georgia Tech would have better wins. Given how the committee has placed teams thus far, I think Georgia Tech would get the #4 spot. If you would have told me that the Jackets would have an outside shot to make the playoff a month ago, I would have thought you were crazy.
All that being said, I am still of the opinion that the playoff needs to be 8 teams. Bring in the 5 conference champions and the top 3 remaining teams...and none of this "co-champion" business. Assuming the favorites win this weekend, we would have a playoff like this...
#1 Alabama (SEC Champ) vs. #8 Mississippi State (assuming that both Arizona and Kansas State would fall below 8 with losses)
#2 Oregon (Pac 12 Champ) vs. #7 Michigan State (Rematches between high-quality programs are always fun)
#3 TCU vs. #6 Baylor (Big 12 Champ) (See above)
#4 Criminal U (ACC Champ) vs. #5 Ohio State (B1G champ)
Gotcha. I don't see it as a possibility, but that doesn't mean it can't happen.
What is interesting though, is that Georgia Tech appears to have a realistic outside shot of making the playoff. If Alabama, Oregon, and TCU all win, Kansas State beats Baylor, Wisconsin knocks of Ohio State, and Georgia Tech looks strong in beating the Criminoles, the Jackets would have an extremely strong case for the #4 slot. Assuming that Georgia Tech would stay ahead of Wisconsin (they are playing a higher ranked team, and are currently ranked ahead of Wisconsin), I think it would come down to a battle between K-state and Tech for the last playoff spot. Kansas State has better losses, but Georgia Tech would have better wins. Given how the committee has placed teams thus far, I think Georgia Tech would get the #4 spot. If you would have told me that the Jackets would have an outside shot to make the playoff a month ago, I would have thought you were crazy.
All that being said, I am still of the opinion that the playoff needs to be 8 teams. Bring in the 5 conference champions and the top 3 remaining teams...and none of this "co-champion" business. Assuming the favorites win this weekend, we would have a playoff like this...
#1 Alabama (SEC Champ) vs. #8 Mississippi State (assuming that both Arizona and Kansas State would fall below 8 with losses)
#2 Oregon (Pac 12 Champ) vs. #7 Michigan State (Rematches between high-quality programs are always fun)
#3 TCU vs. #6 Baylor (Big 12 Champ) (See above)
#4 Criminal U (ACC Champ) vs. #5 Ohio State (B1G champ)
JF_Gophers
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Best solution if all the higher ranked teams win is to put OSU in and leave big 12 out completely. If they're too lazy to declare a winner (tie-break, title game, etc.) then they get nothing.
Best solution if all the higher ranked teams win is to put OSU in and leave big 12 out completely. If they're too lazy to declare a winner (tie-break, title game, etc.) then they get nothing.
Spartanforlife4
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Ok, I actually did read the article now about MSU's chances, and here's what needs to happen.
1. Oregon win- check
2. Alabama win-
3. Wisconsin win, does not jump, OSU drops below-
4. Georgia Tech win, does not jump, FSU drops below-
5. Baylor and KSU is irrelevant because winner will go to 3 seed- check
6. The most improbable, Iowa State over TCU-
Also, unless Bama wins like 35-3 today, Oregon should be the #1 team.
Ok, I actually did read the article now about MSU's chances, and here's what needs to happen.
1. Oregon win- check
2. Alabama win-
3. Wisconsin win, does not jump, OSU drops below-
4. Georgia Tech win, does not jump, FSU drops below-
5. Baylor and KSU is irrelevant because winner will go to 3 seed- check
6. The most improbable, Iowa State over TCU-
Also, unless Bama wins like 35-3 today, Oregon should be the #1 team.
bronconick
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Oregon probably should have been #1 for a month now.
Oregon probably should have been #1 for a month now.
Fighting Sioux 23
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That's basically the scenario that I laid out before. I think Georgia Tech would get in over Michigan State. I also think Wisconsin would jump State. The committe does have certain requirements to put in conference champions unless the team is "unequivocally" a top 4 team. MSU is not.
I don't want to burst your very faint hopes, but no way Michigan State makes the playoff.
Spartanforlife4
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Agreed, but it seems the committee decided after about Week 6 that #1 would be the placeholder for the SEC.
Agreed, but it seems the committee decided after about Week 6 that #1 would be the placeholder for the SEC.
Spartanforlife4
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Oh, I'm not expecting it at all. We had two chances to prove ourselves and instead decided to play the worst defense since the program has seen since about 2009 in the 4th quarter of Oregon and 2nd half of OSU.
Oh, I'm not expecting it at all. We had two chances to prove ourselves and instead decided to play the worst defense since the program has seen since about 2009 in the 4th quarter of Oregon and 2nd half of OSU.
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looking at the current top 8, 8 would be too many this year. 6 on the other hand? perfect. top 2 get a bye.
give bama and oregon top slots
have tcu and baylor settle it on neutral field and fsu-osu (obviously not ideal now with osu on third qb)
looking at the current top 8, 8 would be too many this year. 6 on the other hand? perfect. top 2 get a bye.
give bama and oregon top slots
have tcu and baylor settle it on neutral field and fsu-osu (obviously not ideal now with osu on third qb)
correct me if i'm wrong but i don't believe the big 12 can have a title game because they only have 10 teams. seems like they are content with that but are there any potential candidates out there for them?
also, re: UAB
when you think of a program folding you wouldnt think if a program that went 6-6 on the field.
JF_Gophers
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No they can't have a title game. But they did say they'd implement a tie breaker and then backed out on that. Ironic that big 12 motto this year is "one true champion".